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The Signpost: 20 June 2011

DYK nomination of Alan Sepinwall

  Hello! Your submission of Alan Sepinwall at the Did You Know nominations page has been reviewed, and there still are some issues that may need to be clarified. Please review the comment(s) underneath your nomination's entry and respond there as soon as possible. Thank you for contributing to Did You Know! Dravecky (talk) 06:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Janelle Brown

 

The article Janelle Brown has been proposed for deletion because under Wikipedia policy, all biographies of living persons created after March 18, 2010, must have at least one source that directly supports material in the article.

If you created the article, please don't take offense. Instead, consider improving the article. For help on inserting references, see Wikipedia:Referencing for beginners or ask at Wikipedia:Help desk. Once you have provided at least one reliable source, you may remove the {{prod blp}} tag. Please do not remove the tag unless the article is sourced. If you cannot provide such a source within ten days, the article may be deleted, but you can request that it be undeleted when you are ready to add one. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:29, 24 June 2011 (UTC)

Copyedit request

Hi Hunter. If you get the opportunity, would you be able to do a copyedit of David Morrissey in the next couple of weeks? I'm hoping to get it through FAC soon. Thanks a lot. I ask, by the way, because of the great work you do on TV-related articles. Bradley0110 (talk) 17:19, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

No, not at all, a week's fine. Thanks a lot for your help! Bradley0110 (talk) 08:37, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 27 June 2011

DYK for Alan Sepinwall

The DYK project (nominate) 18:04, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 June newsletter

 

We are half way through 2011, and entering the penultimate round of this year's WikiCup; the semi-finals are upon us! Points scored in the interim (29/30 June) may be counted towards next round, but please do not update your submissions' pages until the next round has begun. 16 contestants remain, and all have shown dedication to the project to reach this far. Our round leader was   Casliber (submissions) who, among other things, successfully passed three articles through featured article candidates and claimed an impressive 29 articles at Did You Know, scoring 555 points. Casliber led pool D. Pool A was led by   Wizardman (submissions), claiming points for a featured article, a featured list and seven good article reviews, while pool C was led by   Eisfbnore (submissions), who claimed for two good articles, ten articles at Did You Know and four good article reviews. They scored 154 and 118 respectively. Pool B was by far our most competitive pool; six of the eight competitors made it through to round 4, with all of them scoring over 100 points. The pool was led by   Hurricanehink (submissions), who claimed for, among other things, three featured articles and five good articles. In addition to the four pool leaders, 12 others (the four second places, and the 8 next highest overall) make up our final 16. The lowest scorer who reached round 4 scored 76 points; a significant increase on the 41 needed to reach round 3. Eight of our semi-finalists scored at least twice as much as this.

No points were awarded this round for featured pictures, good topics or In the News, and no points have been awarded in the whole competition for featured topics, featured portals or featured sounds. Instead, the highest percentage of points has come from good articles. Featured articles, despite their high point cost, are low in number, and so, overall, share a comparable number of points with Did You Know, which are high in number but low in cost. A comparatively small but still considerable number of points come from featured lists and good article reviews, rounding out this round's overall scores.

We would again like to thank   Jarry1250 (submissions) and   Stone (submissions) for invaluable background work, as well as all of those helping to provide reviews for the articles listed on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. Please do keep using it, and please do help by providing reviews for the articles listed there. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews generally at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup.

Two final notes: Firstly, please remember to state your participation in the WikiCup when nominating articles at FAC. Finally, some WikiCup-related statistics can be seen here and here, for those interested, though it appears that neither are completely accurate at this time. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 23:33, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Kill Bill

Hello, hope you're having a good holiday weekend so far! I'll be headed out of town myself shortly. As you can see at Talk:Kill Bill/references, I have listed a lot of references, although most of them are retrospective. We'll need to research for contemporary coverage. It looks like we can go ahead with the split, which we can do next week. I know that you expressed interest in this topic, but I was wondering how much you wanted to do. I tend to look at articles with a featured article candidacy mentality nowadays, so I'm not sure what kind of analytical coverage would be sufficient for a Good Article about the film. In the meantime, I'll probably make a list of suggestions on the film article's talk page about how to manage the different elements. Erik (talk | contribs) 14:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)

WP:FILM June 2011 Newsletter

--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 04:24, 2 July 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 4 July 2011

Four Award

  Four Award
Congratulations! You have been awarded the Four Award for your work from beginning to end on Into Temptation (film).

Great work! LittleMountain5 15:13, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Re:Characters of Parks and Recreation

I'd be happy to give it a look over at some point this evening, but I'll warn you that I'm only just taking my first forays into FLC myself! I'm more of a GA/FA person. I'll get back to you with any thoughts I have. J Milburn (talk) 20:10, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

First off, it's worth mentioning that I've never seen the show, and never come across it outside of Wikipedia. I assume it's not shown this side of the pond. That said, it's an interesting article. Character lists, so often, end up as terrible articles and a dumping ground for non-notable stuff. Your list is looking more like List of Tokyo Mew Mew characters than List of human characters in Sesame Street (both already featured), and I think that is sensible. I was going to say that I worry whether there may be more real-world details to include in the list, but I think you do have a fairly good balance- "Ron Swanson has been praised as the show's breakout character,[15][20][21] and some of his traits are based on Offerman's of the character are based on Offerman's real-life personality, like their shared affinity for woodworking and saxophone-playing.[1][15]" The odd second sentence aside (there's always time for copyediting!), I think this is exactly the kind of material that's useful in a list of this sort. Three thoughts to consider-
  1. I think it's odd that some of the minor characters have more space devoted to them than the major characters (I appreciate that the major characters have more space in their own articles, but you shouldn't let that dictate how to write this article). I'd say that the main characters should take up the most space, even if that means cutting out some of the details of the more minor characters that you wanted to include. If there's more to say about them than the major characters, it's odd to call them minor (if they're just one-time characters, some information about them could be shufted to the episode article?).
  2. That leads me to my second general thought- how are you differentiating the major and minor characters? Is this a choice you have made, or are you basing it upon some source? I think it's very sensible to do, but I feel that it has to be done carefully.
  3. Thirdly (and, sorry, but you know this is one of my fortés...) I worry about the use of the non-free image at thet top. If that is the cast, as opposed to the cast in character, then it's essentially a replaceable image, as every one of those people is (I assume) alive. We have a free image of the lead actress- File:Amy Poehler 2011 Shankbone 2.JPG- and it's not a bad one. Perhaps that would be a suitable lead? That's how the Sesame Street list approaches the matter.
Hope this has been helpful, and good luck- I'd love a great example of a character list to point at when I'm dealing with editors fighting for the inclusion of trivial nonsense! J Milburn (talk) 21:46, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
Brilliant, the collage looks great. I would be inclined to try to have a proportional amount for each character- as I say, you should try to avoid letting what is covered in other articles dictate what is covered in this one. That said, I've never written an article of this sort, so I'm perhaps not an expert there. Good luck! J Milburn (talk) 23:42, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

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Talkback

 
Hello, Hunter Kahn. You have new messages at Legolas2186's talk page.
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Oh and I also agree with Milburn's assessment of the lead image. One example I can give is the principal actor image of American Beauty, File:Principal cast of American Beauty.jpg. — Legolas (talk2me) 05:18, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

One suggestion. The series is not over yet, right? That means this list is actually a {{dynamic list}}. It would be better to add it to the head of the template. — Legolas (talk2me) 07:06, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 11 July 2011

Orphaned non-free image File:Parks and recreation season 3 cast.jpg

 

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One question

Hunter seeing that you have promoted many articles to FA, may I ask your opinion on an article? Reply if you feel the time permits. — Legolas (talk2me) 13:36, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

I have recently overhauled the article "Like a Prayer", probably one of the most well-known song article. I was wondering if you could give your input as to the FA chance of the article? — Legolas (talk2me) 13:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
Thanks. I was thinking of going through a GA first then take it to the big guys. I will let you know. Oh and the user who changed the pic of the Parks and Recreations article replied on the talk page, some codswallop I must say. I couldn't disagree more with that. Let me know if he/she changes the pic again. I will do a prose review and comment on the FLC. Kapish? :) — Legolas (talk2me) 13:54, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

David Morrissey

Hi, thanks for getting back to me and don't worry about forgetting. Hope your long weekend went well. I was looking at getting the prose copyedited as well as anything else that comes up. I was going to ask some other people if they'd mind looking at it too (since one copyedit is never enough for FAC in this day and age!) so if you aren't able to get it all done, don't worry. Thanks again. Bradley0110 (talk) 17:02, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

Parks and Recreation

 
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A barnstar for you!

  The Original Barnstar
For your amazing contributions to Wikipedia's coverage of television! Really excellent work! :) Theleftorium (talk) 22:16, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
Yes, thank you! Just got back to Wikipedia less than two months ago. I hope you're doing well too! Theleftorium (talk) 23:32, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 18 July 2011

Box Cutter (Breaking Bad)

Go for it I'll add what I have to add after I get some rest. Thanks for the heads-up. —Justin (koavf)TCM07:50, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Wow That was a lot of stuff--I'm not sure how much I have to add now. —Justin (koavf)TCM07:51, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Bent (TV series)

EncycloPetey (talk) 08:04, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

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Quick opinion?

I've been working on the Blair Waldorf article lately, and I've just submitted it for Peer Review. From a quick glance, do you think it seems better suited for a Good Article or Featured Article nomination? -- James26 (talk) 10:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your opinions and advice. -- James26 (talk) 15:16, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Just wondering: Would E! Online be considered an off-line source? -- James26 (talk) 15:39, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
Sorry -- since it's a television network, I guess I got a little confused about what qualifies as an online/off-line source. -- James26 (talk) 18:06, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
I'm going to take your advice and just nominate it for GA. I still added page numbers to the book references, and reviewed the prose again. Thanks for your help. -- James26 (talk) 21:41, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for A Gifted Man

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:04, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Marlene Griggs-Knope

 

The article Marlene Griggs-Knope has been proposed for deletion because of the following concern:

Not a searchable term, not a notable character, a minor recurring character, not enough unique information to warrant an article, its pure plot. Includes a background section which is more plot. Development section can and should be merged into Characters of Parks and Recreation and this article deleted

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The Signpost: 25 July 2011

THC

Hi there. Thanks for all your super helpful suggestions at the FAC for The Human Centipede last month. I'm just letting you know that I'm going to have another run at FAC shortly, but if you could have a quick skim through the article first I'd really appreciate it. If there's anything more you think I could do to the article, please let me know on the talk page. Thanks! cya Coolug (talk) 14:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Box Cutter (Breaking Bad)

Great job I was planning on writing this article myself, but you've done a fantastic job--I've no doubt that you'll get it to GA seamlessly. Although I have little to add, I would like to suggest that you listen to the Breaking Bad Insider Podcast (you can get it through iTunes) for behind-the-scenes bits that will talk about the production. Again, congratulations. I've only written one television episode article (Live Show) and I had help with that one, so I can respect someone else writing something (well!) that I probably couldn't. —Justin (koavf)TCM20:56, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

30 Rock and collaboration All of that great 30 Rock work is User:ThinkBlue. He might be good for collaborating in the future. I would offer to help on any future Breaking Bad stuff, but I really don't think I have much to add--just Google News alerts and the Insider Podcast. —Justin (koavf)TCM21:22, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

Do you've seen the Insider Video? http://www.amctv.com/breaking-bad/videos/inside-breaking-bad-the-look-of-the-superlab There's much about the cinematography of the episode. Also the Podcast of the episode could be helpful: http://www.amctv.com/shows/breaking-bad/insider-podcast-season-4 I would add something, but my English isn't as good, because it's not my motherlanguage... I like the article much --CennoxX (talk) 18:51, 27 July 2011 (UTC)


Featured Article promotion

  Congratulations!
Thanks for all the work you did in making Homicide: Life on the Street (season 2) a Featured Article! Your work is much appreciated. (Pictured: a homicide. On the street.)

Thanks also for your reviews. Featured article candidates and Good Article nominees always need more reviewers! All the best, – Quadell (talk)

Days Gone Bye

Thank you! I haven never nominated an article for DYK, but if you want, feel free to nominate the article for DYK! :) DAP388 (talk) 18:35, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

I will do my best. DAP388 (talk) 02:24, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Box Cutter (Breaking Bad)

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 01:49, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

 

We are half way through the penultimate round of this year's WikiCup; there is less than a month to go before we have our final 8. Our pool leaders are   Adabow (submissions) (Pool A, 189 points) and   PresN (submissions) (Pool B, 165 points). The number of points required to reach the next round is not clear at this time; there are some users who still do not have any recorded points. Please remember to update your submissions' pages promptly. In addition, congratulations to PresN, who scored the first featured topic points in the competition for his work on Thatgamecompany related articles. Most points this round generally have, so far, come from good articles, with only one featured article (White-bellied Sea Eagle, from   Casliber (submissions)) and two featured lists (Hugo Award for Best Graphic Story, from PresN and Grammy Award for Best Native American Music Album, from   Another Believer (submissions)). Points for Did You Know and good article reviews round out the scoring. No points have been awarded for In the News, good topics or featured pictures this round, and no points for featured sounds or portals have been awarded in the entire competition. On an unrelated note, preparation will be beginning soon for next year's WikiCup- watch this space!

There is little else to be said beyond the usual. Please list anything you need reviewing on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews, so others following the WikiCup can help, and please do help if you can by providing reviews for the articles listed there. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews generally at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup- points are, of course, offered for reviews at GAC. Two final notes: Firstly, please remember to state your participation in the WikiCup when nominating articles at FAC. Finally, some WikiCup-related statistics can be seen here and here. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 11:34, 1 August 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 01 August 2011

WP:FILM July 2011 Newsletter

--Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talkcontrib) 03:24, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Jesse Pinkman (Breaking Bad)

InExcelsisDeo (talk · contribs) created an article Jesse Pinkman (Breaking Bad). I don't watch this series and don't claim to know a thing about it. I had redirected the Pinkman article to List of Breaking Bad characters to be consistent with Jesse Pinkman, as I saw no independent notability for a stand-alone article, but InExcelsisDeo reverted me, citing the Walter White (Breaking Bad) article ([3]). Rather than go into an edit war or AfD, I thought I'd ask you first since I noticed some communication between you and InExcelsisDeo concerning the White article. Please take a look and see if it has a chance at remaining as a stand-alone article. By the way I have requested that the article be moved to Jesse Pinkman since there is no other article on someone called "Jesse Pinkman". Thanks! —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Walter White (Breaking Bad)

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:03, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Days Gone Bye

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 16:03, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

A cup of coffee for you!

  Hello Hunter Kahn. You may have noticed that I reversed my position on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Balloon boy hoax (2nd nomination), which resulted in the article being speedily kept. Basically I had had some doubts regarding the merits of my own argument, but decided to file the AFD anyway, only to see that I should have listened to my gut instincts in the first place. I guess this is just one of those times where new users like me misunderstand policy... In any case, I hope I didn't appear too belligerent during the debate, and in return for your vigorous participation, here's a cup of coffee! All the best, Ragettho (talk) 21:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of File:Walter white breaking bad.jpg

 

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The Signpost: 08 August 2011

DYK nom for Thirty-Eight Snub

Hi Hunter, I have reviewed your nomination for Thirty-Eight Snub and have a quick comment before I can approve it. Could you please see my comment and reply on the nomination's page? Crisco 1492 (talk) 06:16, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

THC

Hi there. Thanks for the edits you made to the article the other day. I'm in the mood to put it back up to FAC in the next day or so and see what happens, as I can't think of anything more to do with the article. I shall let you know how it gets on. cya Coolug (talk) 16:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)


Your GA nomination of Box Cutter (Breaking Bad)

The article Box Cutter (Breaking Bad) you nominated as a good article has been placed on hold  . The article is close to meeting the good article criteria, but there are some minor changes or clarifications needed to be addressed. If these are fixed within seven days, the article will pass, otherwise it will fail. See Talk:Box Cutter (Breaking Bad) for things which need to be addressed. GRAPPLE X 23:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Thirty-Eight Snub

Materialscientist (talk) 00:03, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK nom for Open House (Breaking Bad)

Hi Hunter, I have reviewed your nom for Open House (Breaking Bad) at Template talk:Did you know/Open House (Breaking Bad) and there is a small issue with the references. Could you see my comments and respond there? Thanks. Crisco 1492 (talk) 07:32, 13 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Open House (Breaking Bad)

Gatoclass (talk) 08:04, 15 August 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 15 August 2011


Your GA nomination of Thirty-Eight Snub

The article Thirty-Eight Snub you nominated as a good article has passed  ; see Talk:Thirty-Eight Snub for comments about the article. Well done! Just a few minor changes requested but it was still more than good enough to pass before they were handled. GRAPPLE X 03:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Who is Simon Miller?

PanydThe muffin is not subtle 08:02, 17 August 2011 (UTC)

Leonard R. Brand article

Hi Hunter, I noticed your interest in the notability of the Leonard R. Brand page. You have mentioned that you are taking a wiki break at the moment. When you get back, would you be interested in providing critical input as we develop the article further? DonaldRichardSands (talk) 22:36, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 22 August 2011

New title to watch out for

2 Headed Shark Attack - Areaseven (talk) 05:15, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

DYK for Sara Pichelli

Casliber (talk · contribs) 16:02, 27 August 2011 (UTC)

Answering a question you asked...

Hi Hunter,

In April 2010, you asked here:

...and I haven't seen any rocket launchers in there.) However, this is a reliable source, so it obviously shouldn't be dismissed out of turn. Are there other sources that indicate the presence of AK-47s and rocket launchers among the groups? (There seem to be a lot of sources that indicate they are unarmed, but they may be based solely on watching the video, so I don't want to take them at face value.) It would be helpful if we could find multiple sources that indicate exactly what weapons are possessed, so we can settle the matter once and for all.

Here's your answer. Watch this ~10 second clip (which starts at 3:40 in that version of the video, or about :55 in the Wikimedia version). At 5 seconds (3:45) you can very clearly see the RPG launcher, carried by the guy who at 3:40 is 2nd from left. Watch closely and you can also clearly see that they guy beside him in the striped shirt is carrying a rifle.

Still, that doesn't excuse the rest. E.g., "we had a guy shooting, now he's behind the building." That was plainly a lie, someone on the helicopter lying over the radio to his superiors, to obtain permission to engage. Nobody on the ground was shooting. And, later, when unarmed people showed up and tried to rescue the wounded, they were shot, too. That was murder. NCdave (talk) 04:55, 28 August 2011 (UTC)

The Signpost: 29 August 2011

WikiCup 2011 July newsletter

 

The finals are upon us; we're down to the last few. One of the eight remaining contestants will be this year's WikiCup champion! 150 was the score needed to progress to the final; just under double the 76 required to reach round 4, and more than triple the 41 required to reach round 3. Our eight finalists are:

  •   Casliber (submissions), Pool A's winner. Casliber has the highest total score in the competition, with 1528, the bulk of which is made up of 8 featured articles. He has the highest number of total featured articles (8, 1 of which was eligible for double points) and total did you knows (72) of any finalist. Casliber writes mostly on biology, including ornithology, botany and mycology.
  •   PresN (submissions), Pool B's winner and the highest scorer this round. PresN is the only finalist who has scored featured topic points, and he has gathered an impressive 330, but most of his points come from his 4 featured articles, one of which scored double. PresN writes mostly on video games and the Hugo Awards.
  •   Hurricanehink (submissions), Pool A's runner-up. Hurricanehink's points are mostly from his 30 good articles, more than any other finalist, and he is also the only finalist to score good topic points. Hurricanehink, as his name suggests, writes mostly on meteorology.
  •   Wizardman (submissions), Pool B's runner-up. Wizardman has completed 86 good article reviews, more than any other finalist, but most of his points come from his 2 featured articles. Wizardman writes mostly on American sport, especially baseball.
  •   Miyagawa (submissions), the "fastest loser" (Pool A). Miyagawa has written 3 featured lists, one of which was awarded double points, more than any other finalist, but he was awarded points mostly for his 68 did you knows. Miyagawa writes on a variety of topics, including dogs, military history and sport.
  •   Resolute (submissions), the second "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Resolute's points come from his 9 good articles. He writes mostly on Canadian topics, including ice hockey.
  •   Yellow Evan (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool A). Most of Evan's points come from his 10 good articles, and he writes mostly on meteorology.
  •   Sp33dyphil (submissions), who was joint third "fastest loser" (Pool B). Most of Phil's points come from his 9 good articles, 4 of which (more than any other finalist) were eligible for double points. He writes mostly on aeronautics.

We say goodbye to our seven other semi-finalists,   Another Believer (submissions),   Piotrus (submissions),   Grandiose (submissions),   Stone (submissions),   Eisfbnore (submissions),   Canada Hky (submissions) and   MuZemike (submissions). Everyone still in the competition at this stage has done fantastically well, and contributed greatly to Wikipedia. We're on the home straight now, and we will know our winner in two months.

In other news, preparations for next year's competition have begun with a brainstorming thread. Please, feel free to drop by and share any thoughts you have about how the competition should work next year. Sign ups are not yet open, but will be opened in due course. Watch this space. Further, there has been a discussion about the rule whereby those in the WikiCup must delcare their participation when nominating articles at featured article candidates. This has resulted in a bot being created by new featured article delegate Ucucha (talk · contribs). The bot will leave a message on FAC pages if the nominator is a participant in the WikiCup.

A reminder of the rules: any points scored after August 29 may be claimed for the final round, and please remember to update submission pages promptly. If you are concerned that your nomination, be it at good article candidates, a featured process or anywhere else, will not receive the necessary reviews, please list it on Wikipedia:WikiCup/Reviews. However, please remember to continue to offer reviews at GAC, FAC and all the other pages that require them to prevent any backlogs which could otherwise be caused by the Cup. As ever, questions are welcome on Wikipedia talk:WikiCup and the judges are reachable on their talk pages, or by email. Good luck! If you wish to start receiving or stop receiving this newsletter, please feel free to add or remove yourself from Wikipedia:WikiCup/Newsletter/Send. J Milburn and The ed17 00:02, 1 September 2011 (UTC)