User talk:Useddenim/Archive 11

"Monument station (Massachusetts)" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Monument station (Massachusetts) has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2023 December 3 § Monument station (Massachusetts) until a consensus is reached. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 20:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Singapore rail transport color templates

A tag has been placed on Category:Singapore rail transport color templates indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 20:44, 9 December 2023 (UTC)

Template:Metra System overhaul

Hello, I have done some work on recreating Metra's RDT due to fare structure changes that are taking effect on 1 February. I have already reordered the stations as efficiently as I was able, and kept a similar layout compared to the existing one. I would appreciate if you could leave some feedback, if you have time. It can be found in the template's sandbox. (There are two diagrams. The one I have been focusing on is Diagram B. Diagram A was created by AlphaBeta135 and I have only edited it minimally.) Thank you for your help; it is always appreciated! Hotdog with ketchup (talk) 20:24, 27 December 2023 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Route diagram template segments

A tag has been placed on Category:Route diagram template segments indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 21:06, 21 January 2024 (UTC)

Hello, Useddenim,

I just tag empty categories. Then they sit for a week in case they are only temporarily empty. Empty categories that then become full are untagged all of the time. So, it isn't "speedy deletion", tagging is just a way of tracking empty categories for a week. There is no reason to get upset over it or call people names. Assume good faith, I'm just a volunteer editor here, just like you. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 18:53, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Framingham station

Template:Framingham station has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Mackensen (talk) 00:32, 13 March 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Category:Germany rail transport color templates

A tag has been placed on Category:Germany rail transport color templates indicating that it is currently empty, and is not a disambiguation category, a category redirect, a featured topics category, under discussion at Categories for discussion, or a project category that by its nature may become empty on occasion. If it remains empty for seven days or more, it may be deleted under section C1 of the criteria for speedy deletion.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and removing the speedy deletion tag. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 08:44, 14 March 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hello, Useddenim. Thank you for your work on Rakavlit. Trainsandotherthings, while examining this page as a part of our page curation process, had the following comments:

Translating the names and titles of the references would be helpful.

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|Trainsandotherthings}}. Please remember to sign your reply with ~~~~. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

Trainsandotherthings (talk) 15:23, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

@Trainsandotherthings: I find your message rather condescending, particularly since I have been on Wikipedia five times was long as you, and have made five times as many edits.
Yes, Translating the names and titles of the references would be helpful, so go right on ahead and knock yourself out instead of annoying other, more experienced editors. Useddenim (talk) 04:16, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

If you're so upset over NPP comments, go get autopatrolled and then you won't show up in the queue anymore. You can choose to be offended by my message, but it was simply feedback on the article. Trainsandotherthings (talk) 18:51, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

Now who's so upset and offended by my message? Useddenim (talk) 00:34, 21 April 2024 (UTC)

Input requested

Your input is requested in the following discussion: Wikipedia:Templates_for_discussion/Log/2024_April_25#Template:Skytrain_MIA. Jackdude101 ^talk cont 16:35, 27 April 2024 (UTC)

I have sent you a note about a page you started

Hi Useddenim. Thank you for your work on Rakavlit. Another editor, SunDawn, has reviewed it as part of new pages patrol and left the following comment:

Good day! Thank you for contributing to Wikipedia by writing this article. I have marked the article as reviewed. Have a wonderful and blessed day for you and your family!

To reply, leave a comment here and begin it with {{Re|SunDawn}}. (Message delivered via the Page Curation tool, on behalf of the reviewer.)

✠ SunDawn ✠ (contact) 11:41, 1 May 2024 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Template:South Kensington railway station/sandbox

Hello, and welcome to Wikipedia. This is a notice that the page you created, Template:South Kensington railway station/sandbox, was tagged as a test page under section G2 of the criteria for speedy deletion and has been or soon may be deleted. Please use the sandbox for any other test edits you may want to do. Take a look at the welcome page if you would like to learn more about contributing to our encyclopedia.

If you think this page should not be deleted for this reason, you may contest the nomination by visiting the page and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines. If the page is deleted, and you wish to retrieve the deleted material for future reference or improvement, then please contact the deleting administrator, or if you have already done so, you can place a request here. Purin128AL (talk) 17:25, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

Request

Recently DMTCL announced new metro stations for MRT Line 6. I edited Template:Dhaka Metro line 6 to add the new route but still there are issues. Can you please fix the template? (Note: Tongi Junction railway station will be connected to Tongi metro station) Mehedi Abedin 06:19, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Useddenim (talk) 14:02, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Changes to Melbourne train station track layouts

Hello, Useddenim. When editing Melbourne train station track layouts, you have consistently ignored the convention of Australian track layouts, including putting in station names beside the platform, italicising previous and next station names, and putting them on the left of the layout instead of the right. Also, numerous details in the layout including points with the ability to turn right, left and straight ahead have been simplified to just one direction. There are also numerous aesthetic clipping issues after your edits, with corners not filled and icons that do not fit which lacks visual appeal. This has happened several times and requires complex fixes after your edits including Template:Frankston railway station, Template:South Kensington railway station, Template:Richmond railway station, Melbourne and Template:Broadmeadows railway station, Melbourne.
Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Transport/Naming convention and guidelines before editing, and some edits have been reverted before the issues above have been addressed.
Sandbox of Template:Broadmeadows railway station, Melbourne/sandbox is created with your previous edit, with the Frankston one already edited in an attempt to fix the format. Purin128AL (talk) 07:03, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

Hi @Useddenim, reguarding your recent mass revert, you mentioned that the naming convention has largely ignored the the existing WP:RDT concensus. However, nowhere in the article dictates that the platform numbers should include a background, the adjacent stations should be italicised and there are not even a convention set up for track layouts in that article.

This citation therefore does not support Useddenim's edits and is rather used to support their own WP:POV, and has forcefully applied his own conventions when creating route maps in other WikiProject pages to WikiProject Australian Transport while ignorring the existing consistency for all Melbourne track layout articles.

Many of the "improved" designs is even flawed including trancating details thinking it is uncessessary in Template:Frankston railway station's previous version, but adding other unneeded information such as in Template:South Kensington railway station; as well as leaving diagrams with incorrectly clipped icons, as shown in Template:Broadmeadows railway station, Melbourne's previous version. I do admit that reducing whitespace for track layouts are a good measure for large diagrams, but should still follow local consistencies and not to publish changes before fixing all errors.

To avoid the three-revert rule and edit warring, I propose to bring this matter to Wikipedia:Dispute resolution noticeboard. If this message is unresponded or result of this discussion is inconclusive. Purin128AL (talk) 13:46, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

1. I believe you are referring to WP:RDT/MOS, not WP:RDT
2. Although it does not dictates that the platform numbers should include a background, it goes without saying that diagrams should be a legible as possible. And though the guide does not say backgrounds must be used, nothing says that they can't be, either. In fact, the {{BSot}} template is used in some two dozen Australian station and track diagrams, including Armadale railway station, Perth, Bayswater railway station, Perth, Beckenham railway station, Cannington railway station, Claisebrook railway station, Claremont railway station, Perth, Daglish railway station, East Perth Rail Yard, East Perth railway station, Fremantle railway station, Kelmscott railway station, Kenwick railway station, Leederville railway station,McIver railway station, Midland railway station, Perth, North Fremantle railway station, Perth Rail Yard, Perth railway station, Showgrounds railway station, Perth, Thornlie railway station, Victoria Park railway station, Perth, West Leederville railway station, Whitfords railway station, and Woodbridge railway station, Perth.
3. WP:RDT/MOS#Text states that italics are used for connecting lines. A glance at nearly all RDTs will show that "connecting lines" includes the trackage to anything above or below the diagram (although perhaps this could be stated explicitly). It does NOT say that italics should be used for rivers or any other features.
4. WP:RDT/MOS was written to be as broad and inclusive as possible (as opposed to the picayune, micromanaging directives in Wikipedia:WikiProject Australian Transport/Naming convention and guidelines) which is why there is no specific subsection for track layouts.
5.  (dDSS3+1) and other double slip switch icons were newly created to correct the omission.

Useddenim (talk) 15:01, 21 May 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Rht

Template:Rht has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. – Jonesey95 (talk) 19:12, 5 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Armadale-Thornlie Line

Template:Armadale-Thornlie Line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 07:35, 6 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Chicago Amtrak services

Template:Chicago Amtrak services has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 06:09, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Dimokratias–Nea Krini

Template:Dimokratias–Nea Krini has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 06:14, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Southport/Aintree lines

Template:Southport/Aintree lines has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 06:21, 9 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Kingston Branch

Template:Kingston Branch has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:02, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Kajang line mapframe

Template:Kajang line mapframe has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:03, 11 June 2024 (UTC)

Template:Boten–Vientiane railway route map

Hi. I'm probably missing something, but I don't understand these changes of yours at all. The article Boten–Vientiane railway states it runs between Boten and Vientiane, both in Laos. While your changes to the route map template suggest it lies entirely within China. They both can't be right. --DB1729^talk 04:13, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

@DB1729: Thanks for catching the error – that's what happens when one edits when they're tired. Useddenim (talk) 10:32, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Glad I could help:) I've put back the correct category. Indeed it was I who had added both the Laos and China category last year.[1] Something gave me the impression it ran through both countries I guess. Maybe I was tired too? --DB1729^talk 12:51, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

I've also fixed {{Railway-routemap}} so that it now includes Laos. Useddenim (talk) 14:21, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Thanks for that and for all you do. Cheers! --DB1729^talk 14:25, 14 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Fremantle Line

Template:Fremantle Line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 13:34, 26 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:K Line (Los Angeles Metro)/detailed

Template:K Line (Los Angeles Metro)/detailed has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. OrdinaryScarlett (talk) 07:28, 29 June 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Midland Line

Template:Midland Line has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 09:25, 30 June 2024 (UTC)

Track layout templates

Moved to Wikipedia talk:Route diagram template § Track layout templates

23:49, 24 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Long Island Rail Road RDT

I hope you can fix the link to the disambiguation page that you created at Template:Long Island Rail Road RDT. It is not the first time you here me complain about this... The Banner talk 21:29, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

If you tell which it is so I don't have to search through all 150+ links on the page… Useddenim (talk) 21:32, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Port Jefferson station. The Banner talk 21:57, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Useddenim (talk) 21:59, 22 July 2024 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Railways to Dinorwic

Template:Railways to Dinorwic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the entry on the Templates for discussion page. Gonnym (talk) 10:52, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

TfD

Hey, since it seems you are the basically the only one that knows if and where these unused templates should be used. Do you want me to save the hassle of TfD and post the links here? Gonnym (talk) 09:21, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym: That would definitely simplify things all around. Useddenim (talk) 10:14, 9 July 2024 (UTC)

• Template:Joondalup Line duplicates {{Joondalup railway line map}}
• Template:Karjaa-Hanko line √
• Template:Lancaster Subdivision √
• Template:London Buses route 207 duplicates part of {{London bus corridor SL8}}
• Template:London Buses route SL8 duplicates part of {{London bus corridor SL8}}
• Template:London and Port Stanley Railway √
• Template:Mandurah Line duplicates {{Mandurah railway line map}}
• Template:Manitoba rail network √
• Template:Mayiladuthurai-Coimbatore Jan Shatabdi Express Route √
• Template:New Brunswick rail network √
• Template:Santa Fe River map √
• Template:SEQ-rail-network √
• Template:Schuylkill and Lehigh Branch √
• Template:Sealdah Rajdhani Express merged into {{Sealdah Rajdhani Express Route}}
• Template:Strymon–Kulata railway diagram √ Note: the newer {{Strymon–Kulata railway}} (which was probably created by mistake two months ago) should be TfD'd.
• Template:Tampere–Pori railway √
• Template:Thiruvananthapuram Light Metro √

Any that aren't useful let me know and I'll send them to TfD.

Thanks! Gonnym (talk) 08:45, 11 July 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym:  Done. Useddenim (talk) 01:21, 16 July 2024 (UTC)

Nice! So only Template:SEQ-rail-network and Template:Manitoba rail network from the above list still unused. I've found also:

• Template:Air Line branch √
• Template:Railways to Dinorwic – transcluded onto User talk:DavidAHull for use in a future article
• Template:River Clady RDT √
• Template:Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned ?

Gonnym (talk) 15:41, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I'm still updating {{SEQ-rail-network}} (it needs a lot of work), and another editor keeps removing {{Manitoba rail network}} from Manitoba#Transportation despite there being no problem with RDTs for other Canadian provinces. Useddenim (talk) 16:16, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

{{SEQ-rail-network}} now transcluded onto Railways in South East Queensland. Waiting on feedback for {{Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned}}. Useddenim (talk) 00:10, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

Found another one Template:Chengdu Metro/1. Gonnym (talk) 10:51, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

↑ was untranscluded due to vandalism. Useddenim (talk) 14:46, 23 July 2024 (UTC)

TfL route maps

Your edit to the map of Route SL8 - I didn't know the prior version violated an MOS policy. I didn't create that prior version. Checking the history of the RDT, @Denham331 did the RDT. Your edits make the RDT better-looking, in my opinion. You might want to do the same to the following RDTs:

1. Routes 5/15/15H/N15 @Pedroperezhumberto:
2. Routes N28/N31 @Pedroperezhumberto:
3. Route N32 @Pedroperezhumberto:
4. Route SL6 @Pedroperezhumberto:
5. Route SL9 @Pedroperezhumberto:
6. Route SL10 @Pedroperezhumberto:

Thanks again for correcting me, and do ping me when you have corrected the aforementioned RDTs. — Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 12:18, 21 July 2024 (UTC)

Just a quick sidenote - in the 15 RDT, the 15 starts at Trafalgar Sq, not Piccadilly Circus. Also, route N15 starts at Oxford Circus, not Piccadilly Circus. Pedroperezhumberto (talk) 19:24, 25 July 2024 (UTC)

"Brühl-Vochem–Cologne-Godorf Harbour railway" listed at Redirects for discussion

The redirect Brühl-Vochem–Cologne-Godorf Harbour railway has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Anyone, including you, is welcome to comment on this redirect at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2024 August 13 § Brühl-Vochem–Cologne-Godorf Harbour railway until a consensus is reached. Ost (talk) 06:26, 13 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Los Angeles Metro Rail

After your last edit, there is a link left to Norwalk station in Template:Los Angeles Metro Rail. Can you fix that? The Banner talk 09:27, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

 Done. Useddenim (talk) 11:26, 28 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:X-routemap/doc

You created a subpage of a page that does not exist. Please fix or explain. A little discussion beforehand probably would have been useful. Let me know if I missed it somewhere. – Jonesey95 (talk) 04:15, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

@Jonesey95: Nearly identical text is used in all of the Xxx-routemap templates and their /doc subpages. This template simply standardized it and simplifies any future changes and updates. If you can think of a better name by all means go and change it. (I thought it would have been obvious from its usage – but then things are not always clear when editing at night when tired.) Useddenim (talk) 11:47, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

I moved it to a better name. Many editors don't like to see subpages without a parent page and will nominate such a page for deletion or moving. (Agreed on the tiredness; I try to avoid talk messages especially in such circumstances, because I say dumb things.) – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:10, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

{{Routemap shared documentation}} is kinda long and cumbersome; would {{X-routemap-doc}} or {{X-routemap text}} maybe be better? Useddenim (talk) 14:42, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

No, it would not, because "X-routemap" has no meaning. Per the template guidelines, Template function should be clear from the template name. Please undo the recent changes. I wish you would discuss more before making these unhelpful changes. There is no hurry to make changes like this; being in a hurry just makes more noise and causes more cleanup. – Jonesey95 (talk) 23:30, 31 August 2024 (UTC)

Template:Mumbai CSMT–Jalna Jan Shatabdi Express Route

Template:Mumbai CSMT–Jalna Jan Shatabdi Express Route has been removed again. Is that edit correct? Gonnym (talk) 08:41, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym: There seems to be a lot of churn on the parent page, particularly by IP editors. Perhaps it should be semi-protected? In any event, the route map had been updated and restored to the article. Useddenim (talk) 17:18, 2 September 2024 (UTC)

More unused railway lines

• Template:Brown's Well railway line – restored to parent article
• Template:Glasgow–Aberdeen line – content merged into {{Dundee–Aberdeen line}} (so okay for TfD)
• Template:Jaipur-Jodhpur Railway Line – still checking

A few more unused templates. Let me know if any should be sent to TfD. Thanks! Gonnym (talk) 10:27, 3 September 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym: {{Glasgow–Dundee line (detailed)}} can go to TfD as content has been added to {{Glasgow–Dundee line}}. Useddenim (talk) 18:29, 5 September 2024 (UTC)

And a few more:

• Template:Albury V/Line rail service – restored to parent article
• Template:Ballarat V/Line rail service – keep
  • Template:Ararat V/Line rail service – to TfD (replaced by {{Ballarat V/Line rail service}})
  • Template:Swan Hill V/Line rail service – to TfD (replaced by {{Ballarat V/Line rail service}})
• Template:Bendigo V/Line rail service – keep
  • Template:Echuca V/Line rail service – to TfD (unused and replaced by {{Bendigo V/Line rail service}})
  • Template:Swan Hill V/Line rail service – to TfD (replaced by {{Bendigo V/Line rail service}})
• Template:Bilaspur Rajdhani Express Route – removed by an over-zealous editor (now restored)

Gonnym (talk) 08:33, 9 September 2024 (UTC)

Template:Ballarat V/Line rail service

Shall I revert again or do you start checking the links to avoid linking to disambiguation pages? The Banner talk 12:33, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

@The Banner: Send me useful messages and I'll take care of it. WP:AGF Useddenim (talk) 12:35, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

You have fixed the issue, so it was useful. But I suggest that you make an addition to your "Custom CSS" of the skin you use (under preferences, appearance) to make links to disambiguation pages visible for you. You van do that by adding: /* making visible links to disambiguation pages */ .mw-disambig { background-color:#AFEEEE; }

Of course, you can change the colour chosen to one of your own liking.

It makes finding links to disambiguation pages way easier, IMHO. The Banner talk 15:07, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Now that was useful. Useddenim (talk) 16:20, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

You are welcome. But it is not a new option, as I have it in my css since 2016... The Banner talk 16:40, 13 September 2024 (UTC)

Another round of unused templates

• Template:Adelaide commuter rail route diagram
• Template:Chicago "L" system (1947) – added
• Template:Kennebec River map – added to parent article
• Template:Lochiel railway line – malformed, and unnecessary for such a simple branchline
• Template:Tirunelveli–Gandhidham Humsafar Express Route – restored to parent article
• Template:Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned – added
• Template:Shanghai Metro/Line Chongming – restored to parent article

Gonnym (talk) 09:02, 30 September 2024 (UTC)

Thanks! Where was Transperth railway network diagram/Zoned added to? Can't see it in the transclusions. Gonnym (talk) 06:49, 1 October 2024 (UTC)

@Gonnym: Talk:List of Transperth railway stations#Alternative diagram. Apparently I forgot to hit  Publish changes  last night… Useddenim (talk) 19:29, 1 October 2024 (UTC)