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Oh please don't take my yak page access away! Sorry, just couldn't resist; that typo is hysterical! I know you corrected it seconds later. Sometimes our fingers do the most hysterical things :) --Hammersoft (talk) 15:05, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
Never edit on a phone without checking you haven’t made an autocorrect rotor. Fish+Karate 17:21, 24 July 2019 (UTC)

Nothing urgent, just a note here rather than on the Floc admin page where it might seem like attention-getting

Just a comment, because I otherwise often find myself agreeing with you. Attention-seeking is a dangerous label, surely? It's semantic valency ranges from teachers who must attract the attention of distracted students (the political reflex is making a stand when no one else will: like a (Jewish: it matters in this context) mentor of mine who stopped a tradition of humiliating new boys in a Protestant prestigious college back in the 30s by stepping in to protest the custom one day. His authority came from his known gentleness of character, his excellence at sports and intellectual brilliance. I'm sure some of the bullies would have quipped: 'Ah fuck him, always grandstanding on 'ethics' to get attention), down to those who will do anything to catch the public eye.Those who are in the limelight and exercise executive powers invisible to most of us, often deride critics as trying to grab people's attention, something they themselves base their careers on. When, from within the Republican party ranks, Justin Amash took a stand against Trump, it was summarily dismissed as attention-seeking. In sum, almost every act act lends itself to interpretation as drawing attention, from a baby crying, a newspaper boy's street shouting, a farmer's alerting neighbours to an incipient bushfire, to a victim of robbery yelling 'thief', whatever the distinct and singular impulses that lead to it (unknown to us generally), can be put down as 'attention-seeking'. So I don't think one should attribute that motive to anyone unless there is a sustained prior record of exhibitionism. Regards Nishidani (talk) 12:42, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks Nishidani, I will have to re-read this a couple of times, give me a few minutes. Fish+Karate 12:52, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
Ah, unlike in private work, I don't review and make stylistic revisions to what I write off the top of my head, and readers have good reason to complain. Sorry. Just, as usual, too pressed for time to be concise. No need to reply. We're all busy, or enjoying well-deserved holidays. CheersNishidani (talk) 12:55, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

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Telugu cinema

Hi this mobile IP address 182.18.177.106 and 115.97.181.112 is vandalizing the page by adding "Telugu cinema is ranked second based on box office ranking" there is no such thing as ranking in Indian cinema article. It is sheer pluff and fan pov. The editor is using abusive language in mobile edit summaries. Please do the needful temporary semi protection and pls block the IP.Rvls (talk) 08:49, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

@Rvls: the IP address has been blocked and there has been no vandalism in 6 hours. If it resumes please let me know or go back to RFPP. Thanks, Fish+Karate 14:23, 19 August 2019 (UTC)

Declined PP request

In regard to the note you left me about improper rollback use, just wanted to clarify a few things. First, I noticed in my RPP request (which I made using Twinkle), I selected the wrong item from the dropdown. Instead of vandalism, I intended to choose "disruptive editing". It may have seemed like a content dispute on the surface, but a closer look reveals a bit more.

All three edits are from the same IP range with the last octet changing, and it's quite clear they are ignoring/deleting the hidden text in the process (the act of deleting and even rephrasing in one case is a clear indication they see it). The first two diffs were immediately reverted by another editor, and I walked in on the third. Second, I realize my rollback's edit summary could have been better. In hindsight, labeling my revert as "rvv" was incorrect. A more appropriate edit summary would have been "rv disruptive edit" or even better:

"This field is for the model, not the type. See Template:Infobox roller coaster and this article's talk page for more info"

...and followed that up with posting an explanation on the talk page. I'm usually pretty good about that, especially in situations that look like possible misunderstandings by the offending IP (this one didn't at first, but I see it now). Thank you for bringing it to my attention. --GoneIn60 (talk) 05:09, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

@GoneIn60: No problem. Bear in mind the IP editor in question is trying to help improve the article. I get that they may not be doing it in the right way, and the edit they want to make may not actually improve the article, but they're not doing this to spite you, and just undoing their edits without a reasonable explanation isn't going to help them learn how to edit better. Save the "rvv" stuff for actual vandal edits, not good faith editing that just happens to be of low quality. Fish+Karate 12:20, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
Appreciate the advice, and yes, this was an anomaly and not a common occurrence. I usually follow the necessary protocols to try to reach out and explain before assuming the disruptive behavior is intentional. I think when you grow accustomed to seeing how it pans out 9 out of 10 times (i.e. the tendency for IPs to ignore you right up until they're blocked), a lax in good judgement is bound to occur from time to time. --GoneIn60 (talk) 15:23, 20 August 2019 (UTC)

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Template: Infoshops

Thanks for your closing summary about deleting the Infoshops template. To be honest, I was expecting this to be closed as no consensus, and I'm a bit confused by your reasoning about there being a majority since there were three Keeps, three Deletes and a Weak Delete which said "but I don't see anything problematic with keeping them either." I said keep and I didn't see very much to reply to in terms of an argument for deletion, just various statements which fail WP:NOTDUPE. Further, I haven't seen any suggestions on how to improve the template, which is a wasted opportunity.

I'd also like more clarity here if possible on why any template needs to pass all five criteria, since the policy states: "Good templates generally follow some of these guidelines." Indeed, the reason people were mentioning other templates is because very few templates do satisfy all five criteria and I'm not sure how else that could be demonstrated.

Regarding 3 (The articles should refer to each other, to a reasonable extent) - well I think they do and the relevant literature eg Atton, Dodge, Lacey and Munson on Infoshop does link these projects together. Further, there are networks in existence for example the UK social centre network, there's reliable sources for that at Self-managed social centres in the United Kingdom.

Regarding 5, (If not for the navigation template, an editor would be inclined to link many of these articles in the 'See also' sections of the articles) well no you probably wouldn't link all the projects in a See also section, there's too many, but you would link the ones in the same country then the navbox provides a useful navigation to other projects. I don't know how many navboxes this guideline is actually true of? It's certainly not true of the other template on the mother page ... which somehow manages to link Radical cheerleading and Somatherapy.

I also see some procedural irregularities here but that can be mentioned at review if necessary. Thanks for any answer, I see a note at the top of this page saying you aren't around much so I'll move forward if I don't hear back from you in a week or so. Mujinga (talk) 10:22, 21 September 2019 (UTC)

@Mujinga: Hi, thanks for your in-depth comments, I will respond on Monday or Tuesday if that’s ok. I’m a bit hectic this weekend. Fish+Karate 18:17, 21 September 2019 (UTC)
Hi @Mujinga:, I've had chance to read your comment properly and have taken the time to go back and re-look at my close of this deletion discussion. I do remain happy that I weighted the strength of the arguments reasonably and such a closure was within the realms of administrator judgement. Much of the information you give above was not presented at the TFD discussion, this isn't the place to remake the argument, if you want to take this to DRV - while I would imagine my decision would be upheld - I'd have no objections, it is important that the decisions we all make on Wikipedia are held to account when required. If there are procedural irregularities please let me know what these are so I can address them; I don't frequently close TFD discussions, I was helping out clearing some backlog from WP:RFCL, and this discussion had been awaiting closure for quite some time. Thank you also for immediately undoing your inappropriate use of the rollback tool ([1]). Fish+Karate 08:01, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your answer, unfortunately I was asking clarity on your decision not whether you were happy with it. Let me try again. As I understand it, you deleted this template since you found the arguments that it "failed" criteria 3 and 5 compelling, which would (I'm guessing here) mean that it "passes" criteria 1,2 and 4. Since "Good templates generally follow some of these guidelines" perhaps you can see now why I am asking for clarity, since more guidelines were being followed than not (I'm still not convinced by the "fails"). This would be useful to know since I make navboxes myself and now I am genuinely confused on what makes a good template, since 3 seems pretty subjective (thanks to "reasonable") and a hard reading of 5 would delete almost all templates. Mujinga (talk) 10:46, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
The arguments that it failed criterion 3 and criterion 5 were compelling. This does not mean it therefore passed criteria 1, 2 and/or 4, that is not meant to be implied; I just looked at the arguments provided and assessed a close based on those. Any inferences about the template outside of the points mentioned in my closing comment were not intentional, I just closed the discussion based on the contents of the discussion. I didn't assess the template myself, the role of the closer is to gauge consensus based on policy, not to impose their own view. Fish+Karate 10:49, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the further answer, sadly I'm starting to see how this works now. Mujinga (talk) 12:21, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

RFC close - opinion requested

Hi there. I spotted you closing a few RFCs, and I was wondering if you could be an uninvolved admin to give my proposed close of an RFC a once-over? The RFC in question is Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#Proposal_to_add_suicidal_disclaimer_at_Suicide, and my proposed close, and the rationale, is at User:Steven_Crossin/RFC_close#Summary/Close. Have considered the close for some time, but I'd just like a second opinion if you wouldn't mind? Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 08:34, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

@Steven Crossin: Sure, I'll have a look now. Fish+Karate 09:07, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
@Steven Crossin: I think your closure is an accurate summation of the discussions as it stands. There's a consensus to do something but not what that something is, and the Doc James line is probably the least-opposed option. While I'm not 100% sure the discussion has fully drawn to a close yet, it's definitely tailing off (only a handful of comments in the past 3 days, and all of them in the 'discussion' section). I think the close is fine to implement, very well done for being willing to pick it up. Fish+Karate 09:29, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for your reply and taking the time to review my proposed close. Yeah, that was my overall thoughts, agreement to do something, no rock solid consensus on what to do, but Doc James version is the preferred by most considering the objections. I decided to close this one because, well, someone's gotta. If I can give a reasoned close in line with consensus, why shouldn't I, I figure. But wanted a 2nd opinion first on this one, just in case. Steven Crossin Help resolve disputes! 11:05, 23 September 2019 (UTC)

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Category:Crewed submersibles & Category:Manned submersibles

Hello, Fish and karate,

You can not move a category like you would move an article because each page in the category needs to be reassigned or it still appears in the original category that is now a redirect. That is why we let the bots handle this in CfD because it is such a chore to do this manually, especially if there are dozens of pages in the old category to reassign. Thank you. Liz Read! Talk! 17:28, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Liz: Thanks Liz. I don’t usually do CFDs and thought from the guidance that the bot would automatically fix the category redirects, as this isn’t the case could you let me know how I get the bot to sort it, or point me in the right direction? Thanks. Fish+Karate 18:07, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
Use WP:CFD/W which is the bots instruction page. If you need help post in the NAC section and some of the regular usually help out quite quickly. --Trialpears (talk) 22:11, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
They all appear to have been sorted (thanks to Mfb and Spiderjerky for doing all the moves). Liz, do the old empty categories need to be deleted or should they be left as redirects? Fish+Karate 08:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

{{merging}} protection

I just was wondering why you template protected {{merging}}, it is by no means a high risk template with currently just one actual use at Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Capital letters added in 2018. Would you mind unprotecting or semi protecting it instead? --Trialpears (talk) 22:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

Done. It would have been due to a request at RFPP. Perhaps it was used more back then? Fish+Karate 07:00, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

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Thank you. Buffs (talk) 16:23, 17 October 2019 (UTC)

Dropped to semi protection. Fish+Karate 08:06, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

Disregarding !votes by banned users

I was just wondering whether disregarding any !votes by banned users is accepted practice when closing a discussion as you did at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2019 July 22#"Manned" renaming. While it's a no-brainer when socking is involved I don't find it obvious that it's appropriate when an experienced editor gets banned for harrasment/incivility which was the case here. The !vote was well considered and cast in good faith which doesn't change because of a block. This is by no means intended as a gotcha moment; I'm just trying to learn more and become a better closer. I believe I would have closed it in the same way, but more from giving less weight to the no need comment since it didn't express any reason why the status quo was preferable to the proposal from giving higher weight to the support side supported by GNL, RfC and consistency while the strongest argument from the opposition was COMMONNAME. --Trialpears (talk) 06:54, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

The banned user's vote was part but not all of the rationale for the closure, I did also reference the consistency/precedent set. Discounting a banned (not temporarily blocked - indefinitely banned for serious harassment and abuse) user's votes (obviously assuming the vote was made before they were banned) is fairly common practice, and I see no problem in taking away their right to have a say in proceedings on Wikipedia, they did that themselves through their actions. Fish+Karate 08:11, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Thanks for the explanation, I haven't encountered this situation before and was uncertain how it's handled in practice. I agree that there's no problem with taking away their right to influence the discussion, but the potential problem would be in taking away a !vote that is just as likely to reflect the greater community opinion as any other. Sorry to bother you so much recently, but this was quite helpful for me. --Trialpears (talk) 12:16, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
Always happy to answer questions as best I can. Never apologise for asking! Fish+Karate 18:06, 18 October 2019 (UTC)

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Administrators' newsletter – November 2019

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Hello young Karate

Karate withdrew from ArbCom candidacy? Sad! Enough good candidates now, really? Darwinfish is considering running together with evil twin, two in one slot. For balance good/evil! darwinfish 18:28, 12 November 2019 (UTC).

Hi boss. Naturally if you run you will have my goat vote. Fish+Karate 18:39, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
  • Hey, regardless of how often we agree or disagree about stuff, thanks for volunteering; I know it came from an honorable desire to help. Trust me, you'll be happy you withdrew.... --Floquenbeam (talk) 18:49, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

Mayo Clinic History

Hi Fish+Karate! I was curious if you had any questions or feedback on my requested updates to History at Mayo Clinic. If you still have some time and interest in the topic, I would really appreciate your feedback. Just a reminder that I have a COI: I'm here on behalf of Mayo Clinic. Best! Audrey at Mayo Clinic (talk) 18:29, 14 November 2019 (UTC)

@Audrey at Mayo Clinic: Hi Audrey, just to note I have not forgotten about you, it’s just been a bit hectic. I will try and look at this ASAP for you. Regards, Fish+Karate 21:51, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Not a problem! I completely understand. Thank you! Audrey at Mayo Clinic (talk) 02:07, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
Hi Fish+Karate! An editor did come around to fix a recent erroneous edit to the History section of the Mayo Clinic article, but they did not consider my requested updates to update the entire section. I know you're busy, so I don't mean to pester you, but I'm more than happy to answer any questions you might have on my draft. Thank you! Audrey at Mayo Clinic (talk) 21:41, 30 December 2019 (UTC)

Excellent ACE guide

  Hi Fish and karate, I would like to thank you for the time and work invested into User:Fish_and_karate/ACE19, resulting in a very helpful guide for the upcoming elections. ~ ToBeFree (talk) 20:02, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
I thought so too.... ! The Rambling Man (Staying alive since 2005!) 20:06, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
Thank you both! Fish+Karate 21:51, 18 November 2019 (UTC)

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@Mitchellhobbs: Cheers Mitch, nice to meet you too. Fish+Karate 11:20, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

Template:Supplement/doc

I'm wondering why you decided to template-protect the template documentation page Template:Supplement/doc. The vandalism seems to come only from unregistered users, and the documentation is not heavily transcluded. The parent {{Supplement}} is only semi-protected, and it seems like semi-protection would be a better idea for the documentation page too. --AntiCompositeNumber (talk) 17:15, 9 December 2019 (UTC)

It was requested at RFPP. Changed per your polite suggestion. Fish+Karate 00:15, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

It’s that time of year!

 
Christmas tree worm, (Spirobranchus gigantic)

Atsme Talk 📧 18:38, 13 December 2019 (UTC)
Time To Spread A Little
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in the spirit of the season.

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Away til 2020

I will be away until early January, messages may remain unread until then. Have a happy holidays and new year. Fish+Karate 13:07, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

I hope you have a good break, and wishing a very happy holiday to you and yours.  — Amakuru (talk) 13:49, 20 December 2019 (UTC)

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Hi, F&K - I would very much appreciate your input regarding how best to find the closed cases that were filed at ARCA & ARBCOM in the past, including denied cases. Surely there must be an easy, user-friendly index somewhere, right? Atsme Talk 📧 16:33, 11 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi @Atsme: I would start with Wikipedia:Arbitration/Index/Cases, but this will only cover actual cases, not denied ones. Arbitration pages are not indexed by Google or other search engines, so that wouldn't be of any help either. Internal Wikipedia search doesn't cover page histories. You would probably have to trawl through the exceptionally lengthy history of Wikipedia:Arbitration/Requests/Case. Denied case requests are not easy to find, presumably by design. Fish+Karate 15:26, 13 March 2020 (UTC)

Today's Wikipedian 10 years ago

Awesome
 
Ten years!

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Cake and Cunnilingus day

Hello Fish and karate! I see you are of the main editors on the steak and blowjob article.While i think this has no place here i can only respect others that think otherwise. At the other hand, Cake and Cunnilngus is a real day too , mostly in Europe with many reliable sources about, it's getting bigger and it worths an article as the real equivelant to S&B day of course.To my surprise , i see there is not a page still after years .. It is bigger and more real than S&B was when created here. I cant beleive no one has ever created it yet , i would but it is difficult for me,may be it's time to create it ? What's your point of view on this ? Georgeof1001 (talk) 14:37, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Please provide reliable sources for this being a thing and not just some nonsense whataboutery, and we can look at it together. What fun! Fish+Karate 10:21, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
It is a matter of will.I mean Metro.uk was reliable enough to support S&B day , but later they posted about C&C day and they were not reliable suddenly.. YourTango is just a blog , still is on S&B day page . I assume when you say , provide, you mean to create the article I believe , otherwise how can i provide them ? I am new here and obviously don't know how to ..

Thanks for your help, i really like to see Wiki being more reliable, ( have pages with ALL facts, and not by preference ) and not to leave some belive it biased or even sexism. Thanks again F&K , if we could make Wiki better , that would make Mr.Miyagi happy ! Georgeof1001 (talk) 12:38, 24 March 2020 (UTC)

Hi George, nice to put a name to an IP number. I would be happy to help create the page. You can copy and paste links to reliable sources here, if you like. Or you can go to User:Georgeof1001/Cake and Cunnilingus Day and create a page there in your user space, it doesn't need to look like a finished page, just jot down your links for now and it can be worked on there. Again, I would be delighted to help if we can find some reliable sources for it being a thing. Fish+Karate 13:08, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
Fish and karate, thanks again, I have already sent an email to you with some links, for sure I am going to need help Georgeof1001 (talk) 22:07, 24 March 2020 (UTC)
I have put the links on User:Georgeof1001/Cake and Cunnilingus Day, as a start. I am quite busy at the moment with work due to the Coronavirus outbreak so it may be a few days or longer before I am able to help further. Fish+Karate 14:18, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
Hello Neil, i am trying but i am also confused whether a source is reliable or not,news websites,portals, other like Metro.uk e.g. My wording might also be not decent and haven't figure how to create the page yet, still it would be nice to be there on April 14 despite the bad mood we all have due to the known situation.I know you are extremely busy for the time being but if you find some free time , please take a look at User:Georgeof1001/Cake and Cunnilingus Day Georgeof1001 (talk) 20:20, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
Fish and Karate hello again!I hope everything's ok.I would appreciate if you could take a look in my page.I am about to create the article but still have some questions concerning the 'how to'.I 've found many other links but i think they are not necessary to.As you stated, this is going to be fun.This is what i have gathered from other people too. Please , help! Georgeof1001 (talk) 20:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

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I'm not exactly sure why I'm being attacked. The only time I ever broached the edges of the IBAN was when I asked you a question about its parameters a full year ago. All I know is that the IBAN was implemented partly to keep me from being attacked randomly like this (which, beforehand, was a regular occurrence).

The only thing I can think of that "flagrantly violate said bans and neither ArbCom nor the admin corps will lift a finger" might be referring to is this discussion at WT:AN, where I mentioned Darkknight2149 v. Hijiri88 and Curly Turkey and another unrelated ANI thread in a discussion about whether ANI headers should be neutral. It was only brought up in the context of there being a consensus for neutral headers in a past discussion. No one from that discussion was mentioned except for Drmies, and it was only brought up over this ([3], [4], [5], [6]) and this ([7], [8], [9], [10], [11], [12], [13], [14]). I am already dealing with another conflict as it is. The last thing I need is for this debacle to make a comeback, especially considering this. DarkKnight2149 06:00, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Just let it go. You’re not named anyway. Fish+Karate 19:41, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
Alright. It was heavily implied with the redacteds, but if you feel this isn't worth action, I trust your judgment. DarkKnight2149 20:04, 8 April 2020 (UTC)

Possible fixes

Hi Fish and karate! Regarding WP:SPIDER, the thing that sets my teeth on edge a little more than the official lunacy box is the lack of a descriptive nutshell, which denies readers who might not be in the mood for wading through a bunch of silliness the option to just get the point and move on. If you have ideas for potential changes to it, I'd be interested (the current nutshell is completely redundant to the title, so it's not as though anything is being lost, and a rewrite could allow other jokes to be added to it).

Regarding my comments about WP:OWN, the wholesale reverting of minor edits without substantive explanation ("clean up aftermath of silly people"), insinuation of authorship ("check the history"), and pulling rank ("The page has been on Wikipedia for probably twice as long as you have. You can trust me on this.") all came across as textbook WP:OWNBEHAVIOR. Perhaps I just need to commit to AGF more stubbornly, but the other editor is experienced enough to know what they're doing and what impression their comments give. Cheers, {{u|Sdkb}}talk 16:57, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

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The code pages AfD

Given that keep was a minority opinion I think a closing statement is needed in order to close it as keep. Could you add one? Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 09:16, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

Apologies as I am sleepy and didn't notice that the username was wrong. Sorry. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 09:36, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
No probs. Fish+Karate<

Impersonation account?

Hi, there's a user Fish end karete (talk · contribs) who seems to be impersonating you. If that should have been you after all, could you briefly confirm? Thanks, – Fut.Perf. 09:25, 28 July 2020 (UTC)

@Future Perfect at Sunrise:, can confirm it is not me. Maybe a South African impersonator? Fish+Karate 13:58, 4 August 2020 (UTC)

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  A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Chandler (profession, candles). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 September 3#Chandler (profession, candles) until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. Steel1943 (talk) 16:40, 3 September 2020 (UTC)

Archive in content categories

Hi Fish and karate

User talk:Fish and karate/Archive 31 is in a whole lot of content categories, contrary to WP:USERNOCAT: Category:1998 films, Category:1998 romantic comedy films, Category:American films, Category:American films based on plays, Category:American romantic comedy films etc.

I tracked this down it transcluding the article You've got mail (about a film), which was presumably intended to be a trasclusion of Template:You've got mail.

Please can you fix this? I'd do it myself, but the page is protected. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:16, 6 September 2020 (UTC)

Done. Fish+Karate 21:43, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
Thanks! --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 13:09, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

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Block

Please block Firestar 464.

I have been threatened by that user and will not tolerate the lies and filth.... CrossFit is my company, along with my husband's. The information is incorrect and although it may be fun for some to misprint incorrect information, it is defamation of character of the truth.

It is intolerable and inhumane. Fitjenlauren (talk) 03:53, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

I'd suggest that Fitjenlauren be indeffed for WP:NOTHERE and WP:PA. JavaHurricane 04:07, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
Again, original research is not allowed, and this is clearly a COI. Also, these are warning templates, not attacks. Firestar464 (talk) 04:08, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

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Protection of Template:Accepted

Hello, Fish and karate. In 2017, you have fully-protected Template:Accepted. It has only 654 transclusions (a hundred or two of which are from appearing in documentation). Please consider lowering the protection level of this template. —⁠andrybak (talk) 23:57, 4 November 2020 (UTC)

Be happy to, but out of curiosity and before I do, may I ask why? 654 transclusions is not an “only” number, and you don’t appear to have provided any rationale for your request. Fish+Karate 05:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)

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List of HBO Max original programming

Hi, Could you remove pending changes protection from List of HBO Max original programming please? It's been there for a long time and I think there may well be no need for it now. ----Pontificalibus 15:28, 26 November 2020 (UTC)

I would advise against removing Pending Changes protection as IP editors are still introducing unsourced content as early as two days ago that needs review. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 13:55, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
Pending changes has a very low bar and it seems to still be being met, as Alucard16 says. Fish+Karate 18:11, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
You may want to drop a comment over at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection#List of HBO Max original programming as the OP also posted there for protection to be removed. Alucard 16❯❯❯ chat? 15:35, 1 December 2020 (UTC)

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Revision delete

I was hacked and can't log in to my account. I don't use the account anymore and, whilst I don't mind seeing as I haven't logged in for a year, My user page was "edited" by said hacker. I can revert the edits but I'd also like them revision deleted.

Also, I'd like you or any admin/sysop to suspend editing privileges for the account for at LEAST a month while I attempt to recover the account

Race To The Nether (talk) 13:30, 15 December 2020 (UTC)

Done and account blocked but I strongly suggest you use your correct account details in your signature, @Race To Oblivion:, it can lead to confusion and is actually against the rules (“ Do not impersonate other users”). Fish+Karate 02:31, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

I asked for my username changed whilst this was going on, if you want the reason I can explain, but for the most part this is done, I couldn't recover and, well, thanks. 2600:1700:4B16:1510:70E1:5345:18A2:8180 (talk) 00:28, 13 January 2021 (UTC)

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DYK for Cake and Cunnilingus Day

On 1 April 2021, Did you know was updated with a fact from the article Cake and Cunnilingus Day, which you recently created, substantially expanded, or brought to good article status. The fact was ... that 14 April is Cake and Cunnilingus Day? The nomination discussion and review may be seen at Template:Did you know nominations/Cake and Cunnilingus Day. You are welcome to check how many pageviews the nominated article or articles got while on the front page (here's how, Cake and Cunnilingus Day), and if they received a combined total of at least 416.7 views per hour (ie, 5,000 views in 12 hours or 10,000 in 24), the hook may be added to the statistics page. Finally, if you know of an interesting fact from another recently created article, then please feel free to suggest it on the Did you know talk page.

Gatoclass (talk) 00:02, 1 April 2021 (UTC)

Oh wow, that’s very awesome it made it to DYK, although I didn’t do much, just dumped some links to a subpage. Thanks for letting me know though! Fish+Karate 22:45, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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Protection decrease request for Template:Rfc at WP:RFUP

Hi Fish and karate, your input would be welcome at WP:RFUP regarding the protection level of Template:Rfc. Thanks :) ~ ToBeFree (talk) 11:04, 19 July 2021 (UTC)

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  A discussion is taking place to address the redirect 2538. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 September 6#2538 until a consensus is reached, and anyone, including you, is welcome to contribute to the discussion. -- Tavix (talk) 20:52, 6 September 2021 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know, I am not going to miss a redirect I created (holy poo) 14 years ago! Fish+Karate 18:59, 11 September 2021 (UTC)

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RevDelete request in the user space

Hello! You've been lucky enough to have been picked out of Category:Wikipedia administrators willing to handle RevisionDelete requests by a random number generator.

My userpage at User:Robomilk's edit history includes an unpleasant mixture of both personal identifying information (added by myself, when I was a teenager naïve to how much of a bad idea that is) and random vandalism and cyberbullying (added by similarly naïve teenage peers). Pretty much every edit from before 18 April 2007‎ fits into one of these two categories, and I'd quite like them to be gone for both security and sanity.

While I realise I could probably create a new account and cast that history aside, I was quite like to have these revisions (at least the ones containing personal info) hidden from public view. As this is regarding a page in the user space, I would think that the use of RevisionDelete would not require further oversight if I'm the one requesting it.

Is this possible, or is there some other process I should be following for removing personal information? Thanks in advance! —Kimberly Grey (talk) 23:18, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

@Robomilk: No problem at all, given the reasonable request and the fact the edits are from 15 years ago (which makes me feel old, that was around the time when I started too), I’ve cleared them all out for you. Any issues let me know. Cheers, Fish+Karate 08:51, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
Amazing! Thanks for your understanding and help. —Kimberly Grey (talk) 10:46, 16 December 2021 (UTC)

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Chaeyoung

Just curious but did you mean to both semi-protect and pending changes protect Chaeyoung? It's just I haven't seen that before. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 11:11, 31 August 2022 (UTC)

@CambridgeBayWeather: Hi! I did, just out of old habit. I can always change it - or feel free to do so yourself, I don't mind. Fish+Karate 12:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
It's OK. I'm ot that excited. CambridgeBayWeather, Uqaqtuq (talk), Huliva 03:43, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

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Minor request

Hello, I'm cleaning up the dwindling number of fostered content WP:LINT errors on Wikipedia, and have brought them down to 12 in user talk space. If you would be willing, on User talk:Fish and karate/Archive 29 would you add a vertical bar | before the File brackets within the Birmingham meetup section like so:

== Birmingham meetup ==

{|
[[File:Aa wikimeet 25feb12.jpg|thumb|upright|left|See you there?  Well... not here... this photo is from a pub in Manchester... but that's cos there haven't been enough meetups in Birmingham.]]

to

== Birmingham meetup ==

{|
|[[File:Aa wikimeet 25feb12.jpg|thumb|upright|left|See you there?  Well... not here... this photo is from a pub in Manchester... but that's cos there haven't been enough meetups in Birmingham.]]

This will correct this syntax issue. Thank you, Zinnober9 (talk) 22:24, 23 July 2023 (UTC)

Done Fish+Karate 12:12, 24 July 2023 (UTC)

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Dispute resolution organization

Hi Fish and karate :) I noticed you deleted this page in 2019 under G1: Patent nonsense, meaningless, or incomprehensible: redirect not referenced in target. As this page used to be an article prior to being turned into a redirect to Stefan Molyneux#Views in 2017, I was wondering if you would mind undeleting it; as - per WP:CSD - a page is only eligible for speedy deletion if all of its history is also eligible.

Let me know if you have any queries, or if there's anything I'm missing here. All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 15:55, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

Hello, there isn’t much to the article (pre-redirect) and it lacked any independent referencing, it was just a phrase from a Stefan Molyneux book that offered no evidence anyone else had ever used it. If you’re really insistent that it be restored I can do so but in its present state it would likely be deleted (via AFD if CSD wouldn’t cut it).
Would it be better if I were to make a copy of the pre-redirected article in your namespace so you can have a proper look at it first before deciding how you’d like to proceed? It can then be worked on before going back into live article space, if it’s possible to do so. The red link isn’t protected or anything so there’d be no issue doing so. Let me know. Fish+Karate 08:16, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
Thanks for the reply, and for the info. I apologise if my first message came across badly or in a combative manner, and/or if I could have worded it better. (For context, I started looking into this deleted article after I noticed a post on the target article's talk page from a reader wondering why a similar redirect took them to that page.)
Given what you've said, would it be possible for it to be restored to draft namespace at Draft:Dispute resolution organization? I was hoping that the history may have contained a salvageable article (to be able to retarget the other redirects to), but I guess it's not the end of the world if it doesn't :) All the best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 17:37, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
No problem - done. If I can help any further please let me know. If you feel the article is not salvageable, please tag it for deletion or if you’d prefer you can ask me here. Best, Fish+Karate 22:39, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Thank you! Sorry to be a pain, but for the completeness of history, would it be possible to also undelete the revisions where it was a redirect? (Or would that not be possible now that the page has already been moved?) Best, ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:44, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
(Oh and - sorry for yet another thing, but would it also be possible to undelete the talk page, and move it to draft namespace as well?) ‍—‍a smart kitten[meow] 22:49, 23 February 2024 (UTC)
Talk page done. No point in moving the one remaining deleted redirect edit. Fish+Karate 19:50, 24 February 2024 (UTC)

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Hello, I am not particularly active so probably best looking elsewhere. Kind regards, Fish+Karate 11:12, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

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World Shiology Forum

Hi Fish_and_karate. I noticed you deleted the page "World Shiology Forum" as its importance was not indicated. I got it. So, is it possible that I can retrieve the page so that I can add information on its importance? or how can I create a new page or article on this forum?

Eileenljp1116 (talk) 03:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

Hello. I have restored the article to Draft:World Shiology Forum. Regards. Fish+Karate 13:37, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
Thanks. Best. Eileenljp1116 (talk) 01:18, 7 April 2024 (UTC)

Request for unprotection

Jerusalemite. It's been almost 20 years, so I think that unprotection or semi-protection is reasonable. ―Justin (koavf)TCM 08:14, 26 April 2024 (UTC)

Regrattably, given current events I think that’s best being left as it is. You are welcome to raise this at WP:RFUP and if people there conclude it can be unprotected I won’t object. Fish+Karate 06:56, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

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Locked and....missed

[15] Well, I just missed it. Sorry. Thanks for tidying up. Joyous! Noise! 22:39, 19 June 2024 (UTC)

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