Talk:The Pink Swastika/GA1

GA Review

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Reviewer: Iazyges (talk · contribs) 22:31, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Criteria

GA Criteria
GA Criteria: 1 1.a Y 1.b Y 2 2.a Y 2.b Y 2.c Y 2.d Y (High percent match due to quotes and incidental parallels) 3 3.a Y 3.b Y 4 4.a Y 5 5.a Y 6 6.a Y 6.b Y

• No DAB links Y
• No dead links Y Suggest archiving links with Wayback Machine
• No missing citations Y

Discussion

• Should avoid the mixing of reference types; suggest moving the citations of Buell, Potts, SPLC 1, Babits, and SPLC 2 to a new "Articles" subsection of the References section and putting in SFN templates instead. The quotes included in the current citations would mostly be helpful to add to the text itself, and easily added. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 22:35, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
  • Personally I prefer to keep print and internet references separate. Could you be more specific about which quotations could be added to the text? buidhe 00:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

    the "For decades now, "Holocaust revisionists" in the U.S. and Europe have published pseudo-scholarly papers and books claiming to prove that the Nazis never carried out a systematic extermination of Jews. In 1995, a book called The Pink Swastika made similar claims about the Nazis' treatment of homosexuals during the Holocaust." and "While we cannot say that homosexuals caused the Holocaust," he and colleague Kevin Abrams wrote in a thoroughly debunked 1995 book called The Pink Swastika, "we must not ignore their central role in Nazism. To the myth of the 'pink triangle'—the notion that all homosexuals in Nazi Germany were persecuted—we must respond with the reality of the 'pink swastika.'" quotes could be included.

Prose Suggestions

Please note that all of these are suggestions, and can be implemented or ignored at your discretion.

Lede

• Suggest expanding lede a bit, perhaps with information on the sourcing brought up in the Content section.
  • Done
• Introduce Arlene Stein as you did Andrew Wackerfuss.
  • Done

Background

• Suggest changing this section name to "Authors", and moving Their claim that homosexuals were responsible for Nazi atrocities has been frequently asserted since the end of the war. to the content section.
  • Done
• Suggest adding more about the professional backgrounds of Scott Lively and Kevin Abrams; while the religious backgrounds are somewhat consequential to their beliefs/this article, their actual professions are more so.
  • Done. I could not find any more information on Abrams however.
• who was living in Israel. suggest deleting this as irrelevant.
  • Done

Content

• Nazi occult theories popularized by Dusty Sklar in The Nazis and the Occult introduce Dusty Skylar, and suggest Nazi occult theories popularized by Dusty Sklar in her book, The Nazis and the Occult
  • Done
• and that the Sturmabteilung explain who the Sturmabteilung were.
  • Done

Reception

• and recommended The Annotated Pink Swastika suggest explaining who wrote it.
  • Done
• Arlene Stein states that The Pink Swastika introduce Arlene Stein's occupation.
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• Writing in Journal of the History of Sexuality, Erik N. Jensen introduce Erik N. Jensen's occupation
  • Done
• and "long since dispelled" suggest which has been "long since dispelled"
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• An article in Boston Magazine contended that the book contained "ludicrous theories" and has been "thoroughly debunked". suggest An article in Boston Magazine, written by journalist Spencer Buell, contended that the book contained "ludicrous theories" and has been "thoroughly debunked".
  • Done
• That claim was disputed by Gay Star News, which pointed out that the rainbow flag has been in use since 1978. suggest That claim was disputed by Gay Star News journalist Andrew Potts, who pointed out that the rainbow flag has been in use since 1978.
  • Done
• The Southern Poverty Law Center asserts that the book's historical negationism is comparable to Holocaust denial. suggest explaining what historical negationism is, in a The Southern Poverty Law Center asserts that the book's historical negationism, the process of... is comparable to Holocaust denial.

See also

• GA articles are generally supposed to avoid See also sections unless absolutely necessary; feel that most of these can be removed as already being linked above or irrelevant.
  • Axed the section
• Abiding Truth Ministries Suggest removing as it is linked
• Ernst Röhm, a gay Nazi executed in 1934 during the Night of the Long Knives suggest deleting this as it is linked in the article.
• National Socialist League (United States) suggest removing for lack of relevance
• Edmund Heines suggest deleting this, perhaps mention it in the article.
• Pink triangle suggest deleting this,
• Persecution of homosexuals in Nazi Germany and the Holocaust suggest putting this link somewhere in the article, probably Content, in a manner similar to how it is used in the lede, and deleting it.
• Paragraph 175 Suggest deleting or incorporating in the article and removing.
• Sexuality of Adolf Hitler this could probably be placed in the content section somewhere, suggest removing otherwise.
• Gay skinheads suggest removing for lack of relevance.
• @Buidhe: that is all my suggestions. Iazyges Consermonor Opus meum 23:02, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

• Thanks for the very quick review! I believe I've fixed everything. buidhe 00:38, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Comment from Freeknowledgecreator

Commenting since I believe additional comments are acceptable. One thing that would greatly improve the article would be information about what publishing company originally published the book (should be noted in the infobox). Freeknowledgecreator (talk) 00:42, 15 April 2020 (UTC)

Pinging Buidhe, who may not have seen this comment before the review was passed, yet may wish to make the change suggested in the comment. BlueMoonset (talk) 04:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)