Talk:Codex Amiatinus

Latest comment: 5 years ago by TomHennell in topic Statement is erroneous

Statement is erroneous

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The Wikipedia entry says: As was standard in all Vulgate bibles until the 9th century, the Book of Baruch is absent[2] as is the Letter of Jeremiah

There are several issues here:

  1. The claim is directly contradicted by its own source in Catholic Encyclopedia, which reads: "The codex (or pandect) is usually said to contain the whole Bible; but it should be noted that the Book of Baruch is missing, though the Epistle of Jeremias, usually incorporated with it, is here appended to the Book of Jeremias.[[1]]. So, the Wikipedia entry is wrong to claim that the Letter of Jeremiah is not included in the codex -- at least, based on this source.
  2. It is misleading, since the article in Catholic Encyclopedia says nothing about what was "standard in all Vulgate bibles until the 9th century". Where is the author getting that from? What is the source?
  3. Finally, how can the author even claim: "As was standard in all Vulgate bibles until the 9th century . . . " But, by what standard? Codex Amiatinus is the only Vulgate codex we have from that time-period which contains the complete (more or less) Old Testament. On what evidence is the author basing his claim that Am's ommission of Baruch was "standard" for that time-period? Maybe, the author is correct about it, but a citation is needed here.Mwidunn (talk) 08:29, 22 October 2019 (UTC)mwidunnReply
The Catholic Encyclopedia article is wrong on this - after all, it was written over a century ago. The correct information is in the Stuttgart Vulgate; which states baldly that the Vulgate Book of Baruch (including the Letter of Jeremiah) is not found before Theodulf of Orleans. I have added an additional reference to Bogaert's article on the history of Baruch in the Latin tradition. The Book of Baruch is also absent from the León palimpsest and all the Alcuin pandects; as well as the 8th century bibles of Paris, St Gall and Orleans. It is first found in the Codex Cavensis (in the Old Latin, not Vulgate, version); but there is provided with a preface that states that it is additional to the canon. TomHennell (talk) 11:51, 22 October 2019 (UTC)Reply

Earliest?

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"It ... is the earliest complete one-volume Latin Bible to survive, only the León palimpsest being older". So is it, or is it not, the the earliest complete one-volume Latin Bible to survive?

It is the earliest Latin Bible that survives complete - the Leon palimpsest (being a palimpsest) survives now only in portions. TomHennell (talk) 09:52, 29 November 2018 (UTC)Reply

Untitled

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This page contains plagiarized text directly from http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/04081a.htm. I am not skilled enough to flag the article, but will leave this so someone can edit the offending text.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pseudorious (talkcontribs) 21:38, 9 December 2006.

Please read the disclaimer at the bottom of the article page: This article incorporates text from the public-domain Catholic Encyclopedia. Also see template:catholic for more information.--Andrew c 04:25, 11 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Monasteries

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Abbazia di Sant'Anthimo ≠ Abbazia di San Salvatore, Monte Amiata - fixed. HeartofaDog 22:32, 11 June 2007 (UTC)Reply

Letter of Jeremiah

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I note that the article - which chiefly reproduces that in the Catholic Encyclopedia, states that the Letter of Jermiah is present in Amiatinus - where my reading of Bogaert is that it is not - indeed that Lamentations (counted as part of Jeremiah) continues the text without a break. Can any other editor clarify? TomHennell (talk)

In Codex Amiatinus, the Letter of Jeremiah is attached to the end of the Book of Jeremiah. As for Bogaert: Where? To which of his works are you referring?Mwidunn (talk) 08:02, 22 October 2019 (UTC)mwidunnReply

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