Talk:Bruise

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First off: this is a very good article. Concise, well written, and informative. Second: I have heard that nutrition affects how easily one bruises, that being deficient in some vitamin or another can make you more susceptible to bruises. Is there any truth in that? Fishal 05:06, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Vitamin C JFW | T@lk 08:43, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

Yes, there is truth to that: a wide variety of nutrients are needed for successful coagulation. However, based on the many clotting factors and the many associated nutrients, a full explanation of these effects are out of the scope of this article (but may be useful in the coagulation article).--Timemutt (talk) 04:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Non-injury bruises

Recommend that we add more on ecchymosis / hematomas not caused by injury.

For example: "allergy shiners" http://www.allergynursing.com/questions3/shiners.html , bubos in bubonic plague, etc.

i'm not so sure about the images and their descriptions.... wouldn't it be better for the images to illustrate some factual point about bruises? Blueaster 06:39, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

How about mentioning bruising as a result of surgery? I just had surgery and I have bruising. It's taking longer to heal than a typical bruise. Splent 07:05, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

I added in mention to alternate causes. As in the article, healing is highly variable and affected by many factors. Bruising from surgeries can take a long time due to disappear due to the the extensive, often shearing damage, not necessarily any factor unique to surgeries.--Timemutt

Also, bubos are not bruises but instead inflamed lymph nodes--Timemutt (talk) 05:35, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

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Bruise Treatments

Shouldn't we have bruise treatments as well on this page? I mean, Quite frankly, some people might want to know. Personally, I would say Treatments on these pages would be good. Theres treatment ways on the wound, but we should have some on bruises. Amiyashi-Yuzi 21:34 19 April 2007 (MST)

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I cleaned up the information regarding treatment so that should be covered sufficiently now.--Timemutt (talk) 04:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Reading the first paragraph of the Treatment section, I noticed no references (other than a non-pertinent plastic surgery practice site). The paragraph includes recommendations for the use of two branded pharmaceutical products; this looks like advertising. In an encyclopedia article on physiology or medicine, giving a how-to without explaining the mechanism of action is not right. Does Wikipedia care about this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.8.226 (talk) 15:55, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

In the "As a treatment" section, there are no references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.20.8.226 (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

Please check the "RICE" reference -- other sources state this as "Rest, Ice, Compression, Elevation". Ray Lee Wayne (talk) 08:23, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Boo boo

Jonathan Tomajko 01:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)I just want to say that I wanted to create an article for Boo Boo from The Yogi Bear Show, but whenever I search for Boo Boo it brings me here, so therefore I cannot create one, unless you fix this issue.

Try editing this page instead. WLU 11:48, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

Ecchymosis

Per WP:MEDMOS, would there be opposition to moving this article to ecchymosis and redirecting this there? Antelan ^talk 03:00, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

Ecchymosis, like purpura and petechia, is similar to a bruise but apparently does not have to be associated with trauma, whereas a bruise must be. See the Project Medicine discussion --Timemutt (talk) 08:16, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Severity?

How can the severity of a bruise be determined? The article says minor bruises have blue or purple colour. What colour do major bruises have then? Do major bruises hurt more? How severe would a hand-sized, almost solid purple bruise that does not hurt at all be? JIP | Talk 20:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Every bruise results from a unique combination of factors, and, unfortunately, generalizations regarding severity based on visual description alone cannot diagnose a bruise.--Timemutt (talk) 04:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Mom says rub it

We find advice like "Gently massage or rub the area to relieve pain and encourage blood flow."

Please mention in the article the scientific basis for my Mom saying if you bang your finger, rub it.

Say if rubbing reduces damage, or just pain... 24 hours later the situation with an immediately rubbed bruise vs. a not immediately rubbed bruise, etc. Jidanni (talk) 19:58, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

In reference to rubbing, see Gate theory. 69.127.56.49 (talk) 08:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

OK, I linked it in to the article. Thanks for the heads up on my User page. Jidanni (talk) 22:07, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

And she also says rub it with witch hazel, which will bring out the bruises. How does bringing out the bruises help with healing? 81.154.204.122 (talk) 03:16, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

That goes back to increasing circulation, which brings in additional healing factors and allows fluid drainage. However, like I wrote in the article, doing that too soon actually makes the bruise worse due to increase of escaped blood.--Timemutt (talk) 04:57, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

Added small bit on elderly

I was surprised to see nothing on why elderly people bruise easier when I checked out of curiosity, though i figured I knew. I did find it over on skin so added a bit from there and a link to that article. (I didn't think I saw it linked before, though I could have missed it.) I suppose it also could have gone in the paragraph where it says it's "caused by impact," but it seemed that would start that part off onto a tangent. However, it would also help to answer how one determines if something little like banging your knee on a table will cause a bruise or not. I mean, not every impact does, I don't think.

Or, does it but just 1-2 capillaries break, and so it's not noticed? If that's the case, then that's something good to mention under "impact," and then move my sentence on the elderly bruising more easily down there.Somebody or his brother (talk) 11:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)

The pictures and ecchymosis

Why is this listing just a place for stupid snowboarders and skateboarders to show off their bruises? This makes the article less scientific. Also, the proper name for a bruise is ecchymosis. If you want it to be scientifically proper, bruise should redirect to ecchymosis. 69.127.56.49 (talk) 08:40, 15 December 2008 (UTC)

There's one image of a snowboarding bruise, and one of a skateboarding one. I do not believe this usage is excessive-the images illustrate the topic well, and have no less encyclopaedic value than the images of ladder falls and car accident bruises.
Furthermore, as the article clearly states, bruise and ecchymosis are separate terms. See our article on ecchymosis-it can be caused, among other causes, by a bruise, but it is not a synonym, Puchiko (Talk-email) 00:31, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

can i just add to this that i am a skier and have a massive briuse on my leg where i fell over. I, nor snowboarders and are stupid, we are just interested in sport. I think it makes the article more scientific. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.254.218.54 (talk) 19:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

Red hair and bruising

Is there any truth or fact to the idea that red headed people have a greater bleeding time than other color haired folks. I remember an emergency doctor referring to the fact that red heads have a tendency to bleed longer. Any truth to that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.133.250.30 (talk) 13:24, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

I added a brief bit about redheads to the page. Studies so far have shown no reason for any difference but some have indicated a slight increase in the amount of bruising (but not bleeding) nonetheless. See Red hair for more info. --Timemutt (talk) 21:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

A bruise is an area of skin discoloration. A bruise occurs when small blood vessels break and leak their contents into the soft tissue beneath the skin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.72.81.138 (talk) 22:20, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

Red haired people tend to have a very fair skin type, maybe "bruising" shows up more readily than in people of darker skin types.lesion (talk) 14:56, 20 January 2013 (UTC)

Time-series photos of changing colors?

To illustrate the section on the biochemistry of bruises and their color, we should really have a time-series of photos of a single bruise showing how it changes colors over time. -- Phyzome is Tim McCormack 03:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)

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Many unattributed statements

There seem to be many factual statements and claims which don't reference a citation. It may be these statements are common knowledge, but some are quite specific. As an example...

"Although not widely used, the Chien Intensity Scale is used by institutes including the Ryan Mackey Memorial Research Institute and the Sydney Medical Center."

This statement makes claims about the Chien Intensity Scale, but doesn't appear to attribute those claims to a reputable source. There are several other examples of this type of statement/claim. The article appears to need many citations added.
Mgg4 (talk) 18:22, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

What Wikipedia is not -- Scientific journal

The scientific matter in this article is plentiful, but the lede has problems. I don't know what template to use, but this link [1] explains:

1. i.e. note 7... A Wikipedia article should not be presented on the assumption that the reader is well-versed in the topic's field. Introductory language in the lead (and sometimes the initial sections) of the article should be written in plain terms and concepts that can be understood by any literate reader of Wikipedia without any knowledge in the given field before advancing to more detailed explanations of the topic. While wikilinks should be provided for advanced terms and concepts in that field, articles should be written on the assumption that the reader will not or cannot follow these links, instead attempting to infer their meaning from the text.

Can someone either clean it up or add the appropriate template. I've got sore eyes now. Manytexts (talk) 03:24, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

eys = eye?

may want to check spell in article.2605:E000:9149:8300:549A:9CC6:73E3:B72D (talk) 11:19, 22 September 2019 (UTC)

Ecchymosis

Ecchymosis needs to be clearly distinguished from bruising - the article states it is another term for a bruise, but also contradicts that by stating that bruises must be distinguished from lesions such as petechia and ecchymosis — Preceding unsigned comment added by MattWhitelock0 (talk • contribs) 11:23, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

Definition

The article opens by saying A bruise, also known as a contusion, is a type of hematoma of tissue, but doesn't actually say what hematomas are contusions and what hematomas aren't contusions. I guess it should say …is a hematoma visible or palpable through the skin, or something comparable to that but more correct :) 2A0D:6FC2:6A92:3F00:0:0:0:5F9 (talk) 17:15, 2 March 2024 (UTC)