User talk:Peter Ellis/Archive 1

Archive 1

Archive 2

Brake article dup

Welcome to Wikipedia! I noticed you created a new article Brake (box and pan). I believe it's a duplicate of Bending machine and have flagged it as such at Wikipedia:Duplicate articles. Can you decide whether it's a duplicate and merge as appropriate? I'm afraid I don't have enough background knowledge to do so myself. (It's been 25 years since high school shop!) Thanks! Samw 03:04, 22 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Good call by Samw. I have incorporated Bending machine into Brake (box and pan) and fixed the one page linking to Bending machine so it can now be deleted. I can't see how this is done. however. Probably by someone with greater 'powers' who feeds on Wiki-vibes in the dark hours! (Best wishes to them :-) Peter Ellis 05:18, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

After merging pages, the one which is no longer necessary should get blanked and turn into redirect to the other one. Wikipedia:How to edit a page describe how to create redirects. I've done that for you. Przepla 20:01, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Inquiry

You've led me to ask. Are you a Canberra resident? Also, are you in the military? You can always e-mail me if you like. Arno 08:34, 30 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Ie tried, but can not work out HOW to contact you, Arno! Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Mexican breadfruit

Thanks for doing that merge and adding that information to Monstera deliciosa, I think it was a good thing and improved the readability of both articles. FYI, I've gone and made some modifications I thought made the article easier to read, and separated the fruit out into its own section to make it more prominent, since I think the fruit is one of the most interesting things about the plant and thus would be more engaging to the reader. Feel free to edit as desired. I suspect you are more of a botanist than I :) Thanks again! --Jkeiser 05:35, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Thanks. Please see my comments at Talk:Monstera deliciosa where I am 'outed' as simply enjoying the fruit. Peter Ellis 05:53, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Fairey Gannet

Hi Peter and thanks for the great article on the Gannet - an important type not covered here for far too long! In the last week or so, WikiProject Aircraft switched over to a new way of presenting aircraft specifications and related material (after about a month of deliberation). You can find the new standard described here. If you're interested in adding more aircraft, you might like to consider listing yourself as a participant of the project (on the main project page). Cheers! --Rlandmann 06:32, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)

Australian wikipedians' message board

Hi Peter. I've created a page (with an idea blatantly plagiarised from our Irish counterparts) where any interested Australians can get together and coordinate efforts to fill some of the (rather large) holes in Australian content. If you're interested, it's at Wikipedia:Australian wikipedians' notice board. Any assistance you could give would be appreciated. Ambi 06:03, 22 Sep 2004 (UTC)

List of Canberra suburbs

I've created List of Canberra suburbs, so Canberra can start catching up to some of the other cities in terms of articles. Would you be able to take a look at it? I'm not a resident (yet), so I could well have made some mistakes. Ambi 12:02, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Well done, and I'll continue to check. May I suggest Canberra by Suburbs as a good and official reference. I've added some planned suburbs in Gungahlin, and Paddy's River--Tharwa as an obvious omission that non-Canberrans would easily miss. And, well picked up that Hall is separate from Gungahlin! Peter Ellis 06:03, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC) I have a long-term goal to complete the descriptions of the Canberra districts (e.g. Belconnen (district)) and will take this list as the template. We also have to get onboard with Stromlo and Kowen as the "next big things". Peter Ellis 06:15, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I made up the list working from that very page - I think I'd have been lost without it! Is there anything around Stromlo and Kowen that should be in there? I really appreciate the help, as it's a little hard to be sure you've got it complete from 700km away. Ambi 07:00, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Um... I realise that I was being too obscure. The Canberra Plan includes the Spatial Plan and it deals with Stromlo v Kowen as future growth options. Stromlo is centrally located and near where the Gungahlin Drive Extension links to the road system at Glenlock Interchange (south-west of Black Mountain). Alternatively, there is an upgrade of Fairbairn Avenue in progress past the Australian War Memorial and this will ease congestion for those travelling from Kowen when the ACT Government decides to harvest the trees. Kowen is also marvelously sited to be a dormitory for the Australian Defence Force headquarters that is to be built between Queanbeyan and Bungendore, if they get the development under way VERY soon. The wash-up of the election of 16 October 2004 will allow a government to plan, unhindered by too much politics. Peter Ellis 23:27, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Cyclone Tracy

Hey, good work on the article. Good info! - Ta bu shi da yu 05:15, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Thank you. When I was second-in-command of a Royal Australian Navy Patrol Boat, our radio operator was a 'survivor' of Cyclone Tracy. He told how the antennas at the Naval station were down, and he'd been sent out to help people after the cyclone and had worked until he dropped from lack of sleep. When the Navy ships arrived after several days sailing at high speed from Sydney, the Navy folk ashore were brought out to the ships, and he smuggled a bottle of 'booze' onboard in the small bag that was all the personal items he had recovered. He said that he slept for most of several days, assisted by the bottle. That's the kind of thing that can not go in an article, though. Peter Ellis 05:40, 19 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Image:Michael kirby.jpg

Hi there! Thanks for adding the image Image:Michael kirby.jpg. It currently doesn't have an image copyright tag, and I was hoping that you would add one as untagged images may be deleted eventually. (You can use {{gfdl}} to license it under the GFDL, or {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) Thanks! --David Iberri | Talk 19:55, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)

Also, Image:Fairey Gannet RAN 882.jpg and Image:Fairey Gannet AEW3 folded.jpg need to be tagged. --Carnildo 04:15, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Done x 3 Peter Ellis 12:09, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Article Licensing

Hi, I've started a drive to get users to multi-license all of their contributions that they've made to either (1) all U.S. state, county, and city articles or (2) all articles, using the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike (CC-by-sa) v1.0 and v2.0 Licenses or into the public domain if they prefer.

talk page. It's important to know either way so no one keeps asking. -- Ram-Man (comment| talk)

major snip of this entry, to save space... Peter Ellis 14:44, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Nice work on Cyclone Tracy :-)

I'll help with a copyedit. Where did you get the info from though? We need to add it to the reference section. - Ta bu shi da yu 06:24, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Thanks to SEMAPHORE Issue 14 (December 2004), the occasionally issued newsletter of the Sea Power Centre - Australia (Royal Australian Navy), as now referenced in the Talk for Cyclone Tracy. I fiddled with the article somewhat to make it fit a section format, and provided some not-so-obvious linkages. I believe that this is 'fair use'. Peter Ellis 21:54, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Unverified images

Hi! Thanks for uploading the following image:

• Image:Laurie_oakes.jpg

I notice it currently doesn't have an image copyright tag. Could you add one to let us know its copyright status? (You can use {{gfdl}} if you release it under the GNU Free Documentation License, {{PD-self}} if you wish to release your own work to the public domain, {{fairuse}} if you claim fair use, etc.) If you don't know what any of this means, just let me know at my talk page where you got the images and I'll tag them for you. Thanks so much. Peter O. (Talk, automation script) 21:13, Dec 25, 2004 (UTC)

P.S. You can help tag other images at User:Yann/Untagged_Images. Thanks again.

medial geniculate nucleus

Hey Peter, thanks for pointing that out. Medial geniculate nucleus is indeed in need of creation; I'll start a stub, but I doubt I can contribute a great deal from memory. On the other line, I'm not sure who the good neuroscientists are here on Wikipedia :-) JFW | T@lk 08:42, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)

U.S./Australia Parliamentary Friendship Group

It was one of a group of articles that were listed on cleanup as being necessary to move from US to U.S. namespace to agree with Wikipedia:Naming conventions. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 03:34, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Graham, thanks, but... I suppose I should correct that. I not trying to be smart, just to understand. I looked through Wikipedia:Naming conventions amd can not find which convention would apply when the organisational title explicitly contravenes a Wikipedia convention; and, I can see which Wikipedia convention applies to naming the US as U.S. as in this case, either. (However, what I did find was an example of US used where the convention appears to be to use U.S..) So, more advice, please. Peter Ellis 11:38, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Sorry I pointed you in the wrong direction: Wikipedia:Manual of Style says: When referring to the United States, using "U.S." rather than "US" makes it easier to search for automatically. When referring to the United States in a long abbreviation (USA, USN, USAF), stops (periods) should not be used. -- Graham ☺ | Talk 17:45, 27 Dec 2004 (UTC)

I Learned About (Burley / Burleigh) From That

I made some disambiguations today, only to find (for myself) that I done them in entirely the wrong page. Ouch. And, thanks to Francs2000 (aka Graham) | Talk who had been there before me, I was saved from a long period of embarrassment. So, I decided to confess.

The name of this section is an homage to the long-running series of articles in ´´Flying´ magazine, ¨I Learned About Flying From That¨, where pilots confess their stupid mistakes in order to help others ahead of a similar mistake.

So, dear Wikipedians, check EXACTLY which page you are about to disambiguate; again misquoting, like Santa check twice which page is going to be made naughty or instead made nice.

Peter Ellis 05:32, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

Some wise bloke once said...

Tis better to err and to learn from it, than to do nothing and to learn nothing at all.

-- Graham ☺ | Talk 02:13, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

French Communes

Hi! I have given some comments at Talk:Communes of the Calvados département. I checked Communes of the Cantal département and noticed that you left some "dust" behind. I guess it would be helpful to preview your changes before saving. Anyway, no big big deal. Cheers. olivier 05:04, Dec 31, 2004 (UTC)

australia

what do you mean by "royal anthem"? i didnt think we had that. "god save the queen" is the national anthem of the united kingdom of great brittain and northern island. i have never heard of its use a a "royal anthem" for australia.

where do you claim to source this from? Xtra 11:28, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Reference: NATIONAL SYMBOLS PARLIAMENTARY HANDBOOK of the Commonwealth of Australia, 29th EDITION 2002, Australian Parliament House Library, third sentance: "Advance Australia Fair is used on all occasions other than those on which the royal anthem or the vice-regal salute is used." Under that, paragraph (d) of the proclamation by the Governor General of Australia dated 19 April 1984 (of Advance Australia Fair as the National Anthem) says: "that the National Anthem shall be used on all official and ceremonial occasions, other than occasions on which either the Royal Anthem or the Vice-Regal Salute is used;" Peter Ellis 22:34, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)

Continuity error in Lost's first episode

Hi! I noticed your edit to Lost (2004 television series): "A continuity error ended the first episode. See article on Continuity." I was wondering if you could add information to the article on what the error was. I'm curious to know what this error was and I'm sure others would find it interesting, too. Thanks! Carrp 16:35, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Okay. I was unsure which place to put it, under Continuity (where I put it), or under Lost (2004 television series) or both which seems un-Wiki. As it's topical I guess both is okay: Its debut in Australia was this week. Peter Ellis 22:16, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)

you patronising message

where do you get off being so patronising. the thing i reverted was clearly POV without any evidence to support it, and by a vandalising anon, none the less. see [1] and [2]. check your facts before you let your mouth run next time. Xtra 11:15, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC) Xtra 06:30, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Wow. I'm sorry that you took my message as patronising. I am in raging agreement with you, and thought I'd said so emphatically, by saying, "It's a bit like the Do Re Me song: Revert, a note to follow "So?" There appears to be a bias in some of the matters that need reverting, such as your recent one on JH. It's like there is an amateur hour going on, with far-from-inventive changes that allow anyone to see the lack of subtlety. Peter Ellis 09:47, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)" (Retrieved from User_talk:Xtra) However, my attempt at humour must have been too dry (with the "So?" being the reader looking at the silly comment) to tell that, for which I apologise. The change I referred to was SO OBVIOUSLY SILLY that anyone could see it needed reverting. Which you rightly did. Is my point clear, now? Peter Ellis 01:00, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

i am sorry for misinterpreting that. i am a bit off my game at the moment. please accept my appologies. Xtra 06:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote

In a way I felt bad leaving that vote, but 14 edits to user talk pages is a bit low, LOL! Sorry, 15. Being out and about smelling the roses is a healthier, more human, thing than sitting around typing on talk pages, mind you. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 07:03, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)

Okay, I need your advice. Do "minor" edits get counted in the statistics? In some ways, I can hope not. However, I know that quite a few of my comments have been left as "minor". Should I instead be un-checking the minor box to get the count climbing? For instance, should this reply be a minor, or not? Peter Ellis 01:28, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Minor comments do count, but your reply above is not a minor one. A minor edit is one that doesn't change the meaning of the text, doesn't delete, and doesn't add any text. Correcting punctuation or spelling would be a minor edit. But if you add words, then it's almost never minor, and it's best not to check the minor box if you do add words, because sometimes it can make people think you're trying to cheat (not you personally) by attempting to slip a substantial edit through without anyone checking on it. The best rule of thumb is: if in doubt, don't check as minor. ;-) SlimVirgin ^(talk) 04:02, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

You're quite welcome. I think you have had enough experiences with other users. --Merovingian (t) (c) 14:06, Apr 14, 2005 (UTC)

Okay... as I sort-of asked at Wikipedia:Requests_for_adminship/Peter_Ellis, what happens now? (Should I expect an email, or to be told here?) Peter Ellis 06:00, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

The vote failed consensus at (10,8,0) or 56%. Consensus is minimum 75%, preferabley 80%+. You can try again in a month, if you like. Cheers, Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you. My generalised question remains: How is the candidate informed, usually? I can not see anything, anywhere, about this last act in the drama; however, I'm happy to be told where it is. And, I am not telepathic as is obvious by my asking. Peter Ellis 07:58, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Adminship

Hey Peter, you got a respectable result in the end, and I'm pretty sure you'll get it when you reapply if you've mixed with people just a bit more. In the meantime, if there's anything I can do to help you on that score, I'd be happy to, so let me know. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 16:10, Apr 21, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, ... I'm sorry to see your RFA failed. Had I seen that you were up before it was over I would have voted in support. I don't see any reason why our administrators must all be socialites. I appriciate your quite, get down and work, editing practices. Should you go up again, make sure you ping my talk page. :) --Gmaxwell 01:25, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Thank you both for the +ve comments. As you'll see from my comments above, in the end I was more confused that educated by the process. Perhaps this is now turning around; but, no-one has yet "formally" advised me... unless it was deputised to Cecropia per the message at 07:21, 21 Apr 2005 (UTC). Or, did I miss something in the pages about how these things are decided and people advised? It's immaterial, for now. Perhaps, though, it reflects that I've gone to "the dark side" -- by working in an organisation with ISO 9000 accreditation where laid-down procedures are followed. :-) Peter Ellis 04:42, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Oh but Peter, this is a wiki; you've got to expect and, indeed, embrace a certain degree of chaos. ;-) The note from Cecropia was your official confirmation: he's a bureaucrat, which means he's one of the people who decides on promotions. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 06:27, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)

Well, knock me over with a feather! I looked at the Cecropia and I'd never know he was a Wikipedia:Bureaucrat. Perhaps a simple, "As the Wikipedia:Bureaucrat in this case, ...." And, guess what? The procedure that I longed to find IS laid down, at the bottom of the Bureaucrat list/page. However, in the interests of clarity, I think that it needs to be links and hence I'll do just that. :-) Peter Ellis 18:37, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)

I concur with the advice of SlimVirgin. The Wikipedia community is a lot more than the sum of its component members, but we aren't always the optimum of everyone's strengths, to say the least. The result isn't all that surprising, although IMO it is a bizarre decision. Jimbo himself said that being an admin should be no big deal. But we're a democracy, and as Heinlein said, Democracy is based on the principle that a million men are more likely to be right than one man. How's that again?

If you're still keen on it, why not start doing some housekeeping on VfD? Most people don't seem to realise that much of the admin of VfD can be done by non-admins. The only decision that needs an admin to action it is delete; If the decision goes any other way it can all be done by anyone, even an anon. This would beef up your edit count in the Wikipedia namespace, and bring you into contact with lots of new users who nobody seems to welcome (it seems many people find it more fun to list a newbie's first attempts on VfD than to talk to them about it first). I think you'd enjoy doing some of the welcoming, and that would beef up your edit count in the user talk namespace too. And there are lots of opportunities there to comment on talk pages, again this possibility seems underused to me, I guess it's more fun to comment where lots of people see it, and the fact that it's far better for Wikipedia if only the right people see it doesn't seem to be high on people's priorities. I think your participation would lift the tone of VfD, and there's always lots to do there. It might also lead you to decide you don't want to be an admin after all! Think about it. Andrewa 10:29, 2 May 2005 (UTC)

VfD vote

I have removed this vote, not sure how you did it but I think it's in the wrong place. Probably best if you reinsert it, I think it goes here. Andrewa 17:03, 9 May 2005 (UTC)

Andrew, I think that I made the silly assumption that by clicking on the Edit link below where the comment was intended then I would append the comment to the field above that. Well, yes and... no! :-) Peter Ellis 01:49, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

Just checking in

Hi Peter, I'm just wondering how you're doing and whether you're managing to negotiate your way around talk pages and the like for your next admin nomination. I thought it might help if I were sometimes to alert you to polls, or to pages where opinions are sought. If I do, don't feel you have to respond; feel free to ignore, and if you'd rather not be invited at all, please say. There's a vote going on at the moment to decide whether we should use BC/AD in dates or adopt a policy of using BCE/CE instead. If that interests you, it's at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/BCE-CE Debate; scroll down to see the vote (it's point 6.4 roughly). There's another proposal at Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory, regarding whether to stop allowing the term "conspiracy theory" to be used in titles. Some people argue that it's inherently POV; others say it can be a factual description. The vote is at Wikipedia talk:Conspiracy theory. If I come across any content disputes you might be interested in, I'll alert you to those too. Best, SlimVirgin ^(talk) 08:06, May 16, 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Slim. Thanks for the concern, and I'll look over these matters. At the suggestion of another Admin, I now make it my business to look over Articles for deletion and I have chosen to look for certain keywords that interest me; then, I have a general look over the topics. Occasionally, there is something that screams for comment and I do. Mostly, I pass. I have also put in quite an effort to document a certain part of my city's social fabric -- the category Australian military memorials and cemeteries is almost all me at the moment, after I spent a few weeks on ANZAC Parade, Canberra and its memorials. I'm quite proud in my own way, but it's only a start and there'll be someone to improve it in time. In short, I'm not "bitter and twisted" over the adminship, and I'm not resting on my laurels. I am also a little unimpressed with the process, and said so on the Bureaucrat page with my suggestions as to how the process could be clarified for all and (speaking to their self interest) simplified for them. Life goes on. :-) Peter Ellis 13:53, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

Vote about Government of Australia

Peter, you might be interested in a vote proposed by Adam Carr, in response to Skyring trying to insist that Australia is a republic. See details here Wikipedia:Village_pump (policy)#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:09, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

And the vote itself is here Talk:Government of Australia#Vote on contents of Government of Australia. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 05:17, May 25, 2005 (UTC)

Planet Shakers edits

Hi Peter... Thanks for your effort with Wikipedia, and the Planet Shakers article, however I'm not sure that your changes really enhanced the quality of the article. Perhaps you could reply to Talk:Planet_Shakers and explain some of your reasoning. — SimonEast 05:05, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Simon, see Talk:Planet_Shakers. Peter Ellis 06:43, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Danish orders of Chivalry

Hi!

You seem to be the original author of Order of the Dannebrog and Order of the Elephant. The original text seems to borrow heavily from [3]. Could you let us know which source you used for the original text -- perhaps you have just used a common public domain source. The discussion is at Talk:Order of the Elephant. Rasmus (talk) 10:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)

User Categorization

You were listed on the Wikipedia:Wikipedians/Australia page as living in or being associated with the Australian Capital Territories. As part of the Wikipedia:User categorisation project, these lists are being replaced with user categories. If you would like to add yourself to the category that is replacing the page, please visit Category:Wikipedians in ACT for instructions. Rmky87 22:22, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

Copyright and Laurie Oakes

An anon IP has just claimed that the article you wrote on Laurie Oakes was largely ripped from the NineMSN site. Comparing the two, while it's not close enough, IMO, to request deletion, it might be nice if the resemblance was eliminated altogether. Would it be possible to over this again and give it a bit of work? Ambi 08:46, 1 October 2005 (UTC)

Thanks, Ambi. See amended version. Peter Ellis 05:56, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

Two content deletions

These two images were, by then, of historical interest only, as the presictions of these election results had both been incorrect in at least the detail. Nonetheless, Malcolm Mackerras continues to analyse politics in both Australia and the USA and predict elections. I said as much in their deletion pages, and did not object to the process. Peter Ellis 07:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Image:Kippax Fair2.JPG

Is there any chance you'd be able to add copyright and source information for this image? MarkGallagher and I would like to use it to illustrate the Kippax Centre article, and we'd rather it wasn't deleted if avoidable. :) Ambi 10:52, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

Happy to oblige. Of course, Kippax Fair has had a revamp since then, and I'll amend the article when I've put up a new picture. Peter Ellis 08:28, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

MarkGallagher has already taken some, so there shouldn't be any need to take more. Your photo, though, provides a really useful comparison of the old and new. :) Ambi 12:11, 17 November 2005 (UTC)

Base Maps

Unfortunatly I don't have access to any copyright free maps, other than what I upload to wikipedia. Rather than starting from an opensource dataset and using gis software my maps are all hand drawn (in illustrator) based on a wide variety of sources including arial photos, satelite images, AU government maps, US government maps and commercial maps. So I don't have any detail other than what I have included in the maps I have created.

The closest thing I have to what you are after would be Image:ACT-Jervis Bay-Sydney-MJC.png which probably doesn't cover enough area or have enough detail. --Martyman-(talk) 00:51, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Cosgrove

Hi, is Image:General Peter Cosgrove.jpg your own photo? If not could you please provied information on the image source on the image page. Thanks. --nixie 03:36, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

Nevermind, I uploaded the offical ADF image over the old phot and added the correct copyright info.--nixie 03:44, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

For interest sake, only, now, it was an official Australian Department of Defence photograph, taken at his take-over ceremony when he became CDF. Peter Ellis 02:42, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Names of minor planets

G'day Peter!

Happy Christmas and (foreshadowed) New Year!

I'd appreciate any comments you care to make at Talk:657 Gunlod about whether or not the article names should have diacritics. Also if you manage to find anything in Wikipedia:Naming conventions that would help here. Andrewa 23:23, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

Hi, Andrew. I have come in late on this and see that it has been concluded... by realising that bots have their limitations :-) so I'll leave it to posterity. Best wishes for 2006. Peter Ellis 01:41, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, that was part of it, the computer doesn't hate you, it just acts that way sometimes. Concluded? Hardly! It's now proposed (among lots of other things) to have a naming standard for astronomical objects. Diacritics in English turns out to be a subject on which when all is said and done there has been much more said than done, owing to lack of consensus. (Do I sound surprised?)

It has been suggested before that consensus could be sought on particular subject areas, and this might be the first one to actually happen. With a mimimum of fuss of course, and many sus aeronauticus. Andrewa 15:59, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

Additions to Canberra

Hi Peter. I notice you have been making some recent additions to Canberra. Canberra is a featured article and therefore should be held to a higher standard than the average wikipedia article. It would be great if you could provide proper references for any additions to featured articles. For example do you have a reference for the snow on Christmas day? --Martyman-(talk) 21:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for that. Martyman. Apart from saying that I remember it happening (snow falling on Christmas Day), because it was so unusual for Summer (and, consequently, it being covered on the national news), I can't recall the year (in the last 15) and can't find a reference... yet. As for the Campbell and Southwell references, I have met a man here in Canberra where I live with the name Robert Campbell, who is a descendent of Robert Campbell of Duntroon, and he is a local histiran\, and he explained the Scottish connection; and, my children have gone to the Weetangera Primary School in Southwell Street, Weetangera (the suburb named after the grazing properety of that name that covered our area of Canberra.) Peter Ellis 05:51, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Category for amateur radio operators

We need your help regarding Amateur Radio!

Please come by Category_talk:Amateur_Radio_Operator where we are discussing how to organize the identification of Amateur Radio Operators written about and who are users on Wikipedia. Steve Kd4ttc 03:28, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Visoko article

Yes, i appreaciate the assistence, becuase i am self-taught english speaker. I can understand everything but can't talk or write fluently, becuase I never attended to some english school, curse or whatever. Just wathcing TV and reading articles on Internet. You didn't make any mistakes at all, i freqently check article for new correntions someone would made so i can check it. Till now nobody made mistake, it's mainly semantical and gramatical mistakes that i make... and about your last sentence - i didn't undestand it well :) Anyway, bes regards, --HarisM 10:33, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Haris, I said, "I have so little any other languages that it is embarrassing." I'll say it like this: "I do not speak any languages other than English; but, as a school child many years ago I learned French and German; and, I have listened to some other people speak their own languages." Peter Ellis 08:13, 7 May 2006 (UTC)

Crossbar switch image

Hi Peter, do you remember where you got the image of a crossbar switch you uploaded, Image:Crossbar2.jpg? It will eventually be considered for deletion if the source is not found. It would be a shame as the image adds considerably to the article. Thanks for seeing on this one. –Mysid^(t) 08:20, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the suggestion. I have provided as much justification as I could discover. Cheers, Peter Ellis 03:28, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Soldier Crabs

Awesome photo of the soldier crab army. That looks like one hell of a healthy beach. Good work. --liquidGhoul 07:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)

WikiProject Amateur radio

Hello. I see that you have listed yourself as a licensed Amateur radio operator. Please consider taking a look at a proposal to setup a WikiProject Amatateur radio. Thank you. --StuffOfInterest 19:38, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

Naval Chapel, Garden Island NSW

Hello. Just a brief point: when you write "In the 1800s, the island became"... do you actually mean the 1800s, as in 1800-1809, or "the 19th century" (in which case the latter term would be more appropriate)? Biruitorul 06:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I took the opportunity to clarify some other wording, also. Peter Ellis 23:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

My pleasure. Biruitorul 05:17, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio

The project is now officially active. Thanks for signing on, and I look forward to working with you. Badbilltucker 16:30, 12 December 2006 (UTC) Hi ya, I just joined into the Project. I have been tiding up, and adding to community radio articles, very timid at the moment. Jacketed 21:04, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

Image:LinHatfieldDodds2006.JPG listed for deletion

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The cc-by-2.5 license sounds like the best one to use. You might also want to ask at Wikipedia:Media Copyright Questions, they will be happy to help you out. —Pilotguy (ptt) 21:04, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Resolved. See the image file attribute page (per title) for details. Peter Ellis 10:23, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

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Corbeau

I'm not sure what you change clarfies - can you explain? Thanks. Guettarda 20:03, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

I came across this by hitting Random Page. Corbeau means nothing to me, so it was only after I realised that it was the colour (taking black to be a colour) that was the thing that ties these together. I felt that the aspects of this distinction needed to be provided on the disambiguation page, and a little more of a description, when several of the terms used were in foreign languages and had no description. Peter Ellis 02:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

My knowledge of French is deficient - are you saying that "corbeau" means "black" in French? As phrased, it's confusing, because it seems to suggest that the use of "corbeau" for black vulture is related to black rather than to Corvus. If that's the case, I would need a source, since that contradicts what I have read. Guettarda 06:30, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

STADAN

Peter, I took the liberty of updating the picture of the STADAN control panel you put in. Hope that was OK. I was pretty close to that operation in the late 60's in Tananarive.

Dave

Strange. I looked, and my picture still seemed to be in use at STADAN. Did I miss something? Was it also used elsewhere? Peter Ellis 19:34, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

Copyright for university certificate

I hate to nitpick, but can you really release a scan of a document under a GFDL/cc copyleft? After all, isn't the layout and the logo copyright to the university? Guettarda 20:04, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Fair call. I looked further at the available image tags and changed the licenses. See now. Peter Ellis 20:18, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Testing - [[User:Peter_Ellis|Peter Ellis - [[User_talk:Peter_Ellis|Talk]]]] 21:17, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

Canberra Theatre

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Thank you for the nomination. I'm honoured! I've added some detail, and will look for more. - Peter Ellis - Talk 19:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

But, it expired.- Peter Ellis - Talk 01:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Margaret Fulton

lol, well done. Rothery 22:27, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. This came about because it was mentioned on ABC Radio National Breakfast, on Tuesday 1 May, that there was no article on Margaret Fulton. It was a simple thing, really; then I sent the show an email; and, that email was mentioned by Fran Kelly just before sign-off today. Happy daze. - Peter Ellis - Talk 02:08, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

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Fine, but... mangling Forest Gump, "Public is as public does." I just found the stuff, and in your case you'd made it easy once you'd done your thing on the page. My life is, increasingly, an open book on the net, too. (Yes, using my name on Wikipedia was deliberate from the start.) I guess I'll "join up the dots" of my several personas at some time under one site. - Peter Ellis - Talk 17:09, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

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AHS Centaur

Back in the long-ago days of June 2005, you started an article on AHS Centaur. A large chunk of that article detailed the creation of a memorial at Danger Point in Queensland.

Fast forward to 2007, AHS Centaur is currently under A-class review. One of the points raised was the lack of sources for the "Memorial" section, which is largely made up of your initial effort. My searchings have been unable to unearth a relaible source dealing with the opening of the memorial. Would you, by any slim chance, recall where you pulled this information from? -- saberwyn 03:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

I have inserted this on the article's talk page: "I started this article in June 2005. This followed a visit I made to the site of the AHS Centaur memorial, during which I photographed the site in general and memorial plaques in particular. The article was begun by transferring some of these details to the article." I will look through the images I have, in the hope of finding an 'opened by' plaque. - Peter Ellis - Talk 03:28, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

Can't find your email address or how to email you, so if you could send the image to "removed for privacy", I would be much appreciative. -- saberwyn 23:07, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

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I think the same image was on commons under the same name and so the one that was uploaded here was deleted so that one could be used instead. // Pilotguy hold short 20:13, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

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No worries. Thanks for the note. -- JackofOz 08:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

Your article on Peter Openshaw violates BLP

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Sir Charles Peter Lawford Openshaw is notable for other matters than just this "mis-speak" or what ever it was.- Peter Ellis - Talk 21:23, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

Peter Openshaw

I put it up for both your AFD and Speedy delete for attacking the poor man. Cornea 17:19, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Corpus Christi College

Hi Peter. I'm the webmaster of Corpus Christi College, Carlton. This weekend is our patronal feast, and as part of our celebrations, we are observing 40 hours of adoration of the Blessed Sacrament, an hour of which I am leading with a theological reflection. This led me to do some research on the feast. I was very surprised, but also gratified, to find the seminary turn up in the Wikipedia search for "Corpus Christi." Good on you mate!

I'm a little curious though. You mention you are a Christian, and also a Freemason. I assume you're not Catholic then, though even that assumption is presumption these days. In any event, you have obviously never felt conflict between the two. I am very interested in your comments -- or links -- on this topic!

God bless, -- "Raphael Hythloday." 22:30, 9 June 2007

Thanks, Raphael. I visited the Victoria Police Academy on Saturday 2 June 2007 and was amazed at the Chapel there. (The wing that was the former seminary still has many CC cyphers in the decorations, by the way.) So, recognising that the feast was this week I also took the opportunity to create the College article. (Please also note that the dimensions given on your site's history page for Glen Waverley have a mis-placed decimal place. I used the Chapel's brochure.)

As for Freemasonry, I am a Christian, a member of the Uniting Church in Australia, and a Freemason -- in that order. Before I joined I asked for the specific assurances of four men whose judgement I trusted, all Christians and Freemasons, that I would find nothing in Freemasonry that would counter my faith. In turn I assured them that I would be "out like a rocket" if I found something in Freemasonry that was incompatible with my faith, and that this would also shatter my faith in them. I got their assurances; I have not found "it", yet. Meanwhile, I have been in lodge with Muslims, Hindus, Roman Catholics, Jews, many Christians, and even a Wiccan. All can profess in their own way a belief in a "Supreme Being" and therefore be a Freemason; and, I know perfectly well what I mean when that term is used. You would be well served to look over the many Grand Lodge web sites for further discussion of this matter, such as Freemasons Victoria and click the obvious link. Also see here. But, looking at the Wikipedia article I found this reference. You must read Christianity and Freemasonry and Catholicism and Freemasonry.

Best wishes, - Peter Ellis - Talk 17:14, 9 June 2007 (UTC)

Adriane Knoppix nominated for deletion

Hi. This looks like a good topic, but it lacks significant sources to demonstrate notability per WP:N. I looked through search engine results and could not find enough info. to make a case for a keep. Maybe you can. Good luck. --Kevin Murray 13:31, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

Image:Phillip Aspinall 20070629.JPG

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Okay, ShakespeareFan00, but I chose the "It is entirely my own work" option[4]; so, why did you send this message?- Peter Ellis - Talk 13:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Apologies,mistagged it would seem. It Would be helpful if it could be clear it was your own photo in the images summary

as well as the licence tag, by indicating self created (as opposed to self-copied) in BOTH places it make the image status more watertight. ShakespeareFan00 13:31, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

You say, "by indicating self created (as opposed to self-copied) in BOTH places", but I chose ONE license option; so you are saying that I should then edit the template-created descriptions and put in extra info? Or, am I missing something?- Peter Ellis - Talk 13:40, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

The user edit to say self-created should be in the image summary, the license tag already says what it needs to

and doesn't need editing. :) ShakespeareFan00 13:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Okay, but I do not build the "image summary", the template does that. If information is needed by you in the "image summary", apart from what is in the license tag, then fix the template (or propose that someone does it, such as the last serious editor of the template.) - Peter Ellis - Talk 13:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

ADFA Userbox

Peter, is it at all possible to fiddle with the design (particularly) the colours of the ADFA user box. That purple is a tad horrible!! Mathew Randall 12:15, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Mathew, please correct my correction of the userbox "Template:User ADFA" to your heart's content. Also see "Wikipedia:Userboxes/Military#Australian_military". - Peter Ellis - Talk 04:04, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

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Rudd ministry

Hi Peter - could I please request that you move this section to somewhere more appropriate, as there was no 'week 7' of the 6-week campaign. Thanks. Timeshift (talk) 10:45, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

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"Template:Non-free use rationale" added, but also see Summary.- Peter Ellis - Talk 20:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Sassafras 'wildfire'

Moved from top of page:- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

Hi Peter, just read your update of Sassafras and was wondering why you chose the term "Wildfire" instead of the Australasian English term "Bushfire".

Kind Regards,

Karl (Titus Vespasian) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Titus Vespasian (talk • contribs) 12:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Probably because of the reference; Wildfire History in the Dandenong Ranges, Olinda Rural Volunteer Fire Brigade (accessed 18 January 2008).- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

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Image:Einstein-Questacon.JPG

I notice that on this image you give no credit for the sculptor. Does that mean that you are the sculptor? Or is it just your photo? —teb728 t c 04:07, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

I admit that, to my dismay, my phone camera did not resolve the separate image I took of the signage with enough definition to remind me of the artist's name. This also applies to Image:Yale-Columbia_statue_Questacon.JPG. I'd planned to revisit to get this information. - Peter Ellis - Talk 01:07, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

Image:Einstein-Questacon.JPG does not have the artist credited anywhere; I will be contacting Questacon through the working week to speak to a curator and clear this up. "The Astronomer" (Image:Yale-Columbia_statue_Questacon.JPG) is by Tim Wetherell (2005), per the weld-plate on the statue. - Peter Ellis - Talk 07:45, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

DefCom Australia

Hi, just a courtesy note that I have listed the above entry for deletion. I don't believe the entry is a notable loyalty program, rather a non-notable example of an employee benefits scheme, albeit a large one. Murtoa (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2008 (UTC)

WF (aka Working family)

At the end of the day it's not the basis for an encyclopaedia article anyway - that kind of thing (dicdefs) is the domain of Wiktionary, which is like Wikipedia but aims to be a dictionary anyone can edit. The term was used a lot during the 2007 Australian election campaign but after reading the article I could see no reason why it would be able to pass A7 in its own right (rather than as part of another article). Orderinchaos 12:35, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks. I do not agree, as I believe the term "has a history", has changed over time, and that the term will 'develop', which is more than a dictionary is expected to cover. You think it should be wound into another article; then, suggest one. I'll look, too. Meanwhile, can you please resurrect the content and put it here? Thanks, - Peter Ellis - Talk 21:59, 11 May 2008 (UTC)

Thanks, all. I see that it has been reinstated, and had a rapid development, to which I have added my 13 cents (one for each mention in the Federal Budget (Australia) presented on 13 May 2008.) :-) - Peter Ellis - Talk 11:03, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

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I'm disappointed by your lack of support. You and I know how impossible it is to get pictures of High Court Judges and yet you support an ignorant American who is hellbent on deleting all judge pictures out of some misguided belief that we can just go down the street and take pictures of them. Reply here if you want to reply, but I'm not happy. JRG (talk) 13:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Um, I don't understand, actually. I assume that you have noticed that he's "at it" again/still, and that I have been able to put the first salvo across the bows of this attempt (see discussions for the two below.) what I said here was correct, I believe. "... Damiens.rf is right, it SHOULD be easy to get a 'free' picture of Justice Hayne; but, it is NOT EASY. It's VERY HARD, for the reasons JRG has said at length. ..." Notice that I'm in raging AGREEMENT with you... ("...it is about whether we can get hold of the judges to get an image of them, and the answer is NO....") and him. So, I say again, "It SHOULD be easy to get pictures, but it is NOT EASY. It's VERY HARD, for the reasons JRG has said at length." Is that not supportive of your opinion? - Peter Ellis - Talk 03:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

I'm sorry about the above - I wrote it when I was angry at the deletion and it is unacceptable. I take it all back. Of course you are supporting me. Thank you for your comments and thank you for finding a reference supporting what I said. I will revert all my changes to the current photos made in anger. JRG (talk) 07:25, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

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"To see ourselves as they see us..."

Your sig line on commons:Image:AU Burns Canberra.jpg is a rdlk (and i only lk'd to your WP pages by accident), so i sounded off there on the assumption that you'd made your mark and disappeared. I've been poring over Burns texts, and magnifying your seated-Burns-sculpture image beyond its natural resolution, and i'm left wondering whether you could have mistranscribed the inscription. Hope you'll take a peek at the image page and commons:Image talk:AU Burns Canberra.jpg. I also see you weren't in Canberra as a Yank tourista, so maybe you're at least in touch with someone who can recheck the inscription on their lunch hour.
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I really do not understand what you mean by "rdlk". I can't find the original images of the statue from 2006, so I'll revisit and take some new pics so that I can check my original transcription.- Peter Ellis - Talk 03:41, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

• Sorry P, both for being cryptic (rdlk = red link = Wiki link to uncreated, or deleted, article) and for being so slow to pick up on your response. (I think it was by looking at your photos that i became aware that there's a m:commons:User:Jerzy who's not me, and then that it mattered bcz of unified accts.) FWIW, my money is on your transcription being right on, tho i've failed to get image-processing assistance.
  Thanks for your attention!
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Um... Didn't this give you a clue, then?

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No, sorry, it didn't. I guess I must be a little dense, then. :) Kelly ^hi! 14:14, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Hi, Have you got any idea why Image:National Medal (Australia) ribbon.png looks fine in the ribbon bars, but is only 2 or 3 pixels high in the wikitables? Examples: Keith Payne#Honours and awards, Peter Cosgrove#Awards, Chris Barrie (admiral)#Awards, Russ Shalders#Awards and Australian Honours Order of Precedence - i.e. every page where it appears in a wikitable. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:14, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

Hi. No, that's wierd. I'll try some things, myself, but would welcome your help and any other people's attention you can muster to the task.- Peter Ellis - Talk 20:49, 17 September 2008 (UTC)

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Thank you. You are the first to mention these.- Peter Ellis - Talk 14:13, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

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Please contact me if you're unsure why you received this message. Glenfarclas (talk) 08:20, 9 December 2009 (UTC)

You may have noticed I haven't edited the page since closing the discussion; your comments were removed by User:Craftyminion because the discussion had been closed (diff). To answer your concerns, though...

• Delinking and orphaning the page as you describe wouldn't solve any of the problems associated with the article, and likely would only add additional reasons to remove it. Reducing visibility doesn't lessen the problems with the article, particularly when there are BLP issues involved.
• While you did provide sources for the names listed, I have severe doubts as to the reliability of them; the first such story was published by The National Enquirer. The other stories were published in similar gossip magazines. Reuters and the AP have picked up on Woods' denials and apologies, yes, but that does not verify the original stories. Your references for the original claims are not reliable, nor does any reliable source exist for the original claims.
• The Tiger Woods article does provide a detailed section on this incident, which appears to contain largely the text that was in your list, minus the list itself. The guidelines for including items in a list (see WP:LIST#Listed items) do clearly state that entries must be fully verifiable by reliable sources.
• It (the LIST guideline) further states that contentious information about living people that lacks this verification must be removed on sight per the WP:BLP policy. This was my primary motivation for closing the discussion as early as I did; while I have no doubt that your efforts were in good faith, a separate list of this nature does not coincide with the BLP policy, which calls for strict use of high-quality references and neutrality. In this case, as was pointed out in the discussion, the title of the article itself was problematic, inherently implying that all of the claims listed were in fact valid, despite only one being listed as "confirmed" and several denials from both Woods and his alleged lovers.

Again, I'm sure that you were not acting in bad faith here, nor had any intention of doing so. Unfortunately, lists of this nature are open to a wide range of problems, making them inappropriate for inclusion in an encyclopedia. I do want to apologize for my closing rationale, which was unnecessarily brusque, but what you see above is the majority of the reasoning behind it, and as I said at the AfD, I could likely find further explanations to back up the decision to delete if pressed.

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dates are not linked anymore

You should be aware that dates are not linked here, and changing their formats also is not supported by the MOS for US Military vessels from DD-MM-YYYY format. This is in regards to this edit, and I would be appreciative if you could rectify this yourself. -MBK₀₀₄ 05:03, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

This might be of interest to you: MOS:UNLINKDATES -MBK₀₀₄ 05:16, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, I am not a maven of the Manual of Style. I thought my changes were "righteous" and "how it ought to be done". We learn... Thanks. - Peter Ellis - Talk 05:20, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

I also "did not get" what you meant by "... from DD-MM-YYYY format." That format DOES NOT WORK as far as I can tell. I have not seen something like 24-12-2009, and a linked version (square brackets) does not 'work'; it's YYYY-MM-DD. Please explain. - Peter Ellis - Talk 05:23, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

My apologies (I typed that out too hastily to be coherent), you changed 15 October 1940 or something like it to 1940-10-15, the aforementioned day month year format for the US Military is spelled out in the MOS. -MBK₀₀₄ 05:27, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

Ummm... As the MOS is asking for (requiring) day month year for the US military then surely (square bracketed) YYYY-MM-DD transforms precisely into that format!? So, why was I wrong? Why did you revert it? What style are you actually following? a. written-on-editing-pages style, or b. as-seen-by-readers style? - Peter Ellis - Talk 06:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC) ... and, I look at this in both Firefox and Google Chrome which both look 'correct' so far as I can tell. What are you using to view this?- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:11, 24 December 2009 (UTC)

You were wrong because autoformatting in the wiki software has been turned off, which means that if you type out a date as [[1940-10-15]], it will display as 1940-10-15 unless you've done something with your browser regardless of if you want it to display as 15 October 1940. There are a few bots going through and de-linking all dates as well as fixing ISO style dates to other formats. -MBK₀₀₄ 04:51, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

I am only MORE confused.

• You say "autoformatting in the wiki software has been turned off" yet it quite obviously still worked for me until a day or so ago, and I have done nothing special with my browsers -- SO WHEN WAS THIS CHANGE?;
• I read the vote page you initially mentioned but then somehow (magically, without trace, as I wrote this response) removed without leaving a trace -- Wikipedia:Date formatting and linking poll -- So, WHERE on the poll page (or elsewhere) is the announcement of the result, and the consequential changes that were proposed?;
• I had not heard about this vote, much less the debate, nor seen any announcement about any change to date formatting;
• It's not as though I'm an irregular editor or article writer, so it can't have been difficult to work that out and send a message to me, and it's been April since the result of the poll was known! (see note) - Peter Ellis - Talk 09:52, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

And, I now see that some bots seems to be following me around. Is that your doing? However, oddly, I find such oddities as "2009-12-24" rather than "24 December 2009" and I wonder how this makes Wikipedia more readable. Are the bots correctly functioning? - Peter Ellis - Talk 11:11, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

NOTE: If a bot can be used to change date formats, then a bot could surely have been used to work out which editors were / had been doing edits using those formats and automagically insert a warning into their Talk page to inform them about the new processes for date formatting. - Peter Ellis - Talk 00:36, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Now you are being paranoid, the bots are going to each and every article on the encyclopedia, they don't single out individual users (The bots have "followed me around" as well on the earlier articles of my career that have not been greatly modified since), nor did their bot approvals include a notification task. Now you are not starting to make sense nor assuming good faith by accusing me of stalking via proxy (the bots). I suggest that you disengage and ask some questions of the editors who really know what is going on at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (dates and numbers). There have been many developments in the community including an Arbitration Committee case on Date Delinking, and not all of them were properly advertised throughout the entire editor base. If you have read my userpage, you will see that I do not usually work on policy but since I saw that you had been continuing to link dates as if they were still intended to be linked, I though I should leave you a message so there would not be additional work for the bots. Apparently I have only made things worse. -MBK₀₀₄ 04:49, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

Okay, MBK004. I had looked at several recent page edits and the date formats seemed to have been changed; I thought that you might have sent the bots onto my edits, knowing that I'd been uninformed on the subject. I know as much about how bots can be configured as I knew about the change of policy for dates or the existence of the Arbitration Committee case on Date Delinking. And, I have to agree that this was not "properly advertised throughout the entire editor base." It's also difficult, even reading this, to get a succinct picture of "the way it is" so that an editor can apply the policy. Is this matter closed? Yes, please... and, thanks!- Peter Ellis - Talk 06:12, 26 December 2009 (UTC)

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Hi, may I inform you that while of course you are not prohibited to notify a user or even a project about a Wikipedia:Articles for deletion or the like, you should certainly refrain neither to choose a recipient of your notification based on their attitude against the subject of the AfD or the like nor to suggest that recipient how they shall act - as you did here [5] (see also WP:Canvassing about this). You might however wish to leave a neutral message about Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rupert Onslow, Viscount Cranley at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Peerage_and_Baronetage. Best wishes and a Happy New Year. ~~ Phoe _talk ~~ 14:37, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

You may find this odd, but I was unaware of WP:Canvassing. Nevertheless, as I am assured that you read my posting, I can't imagine why posting to the 'keeper' of the Onslow family tree might be considered inappropriate. Okay, I was surprised that this user has not done anything about it. Maybe this user has been aware of WP:Canvassing; or, has been on Christmas holidays. I don't think that I was expeting to get a torrent of responses, anyway, by asking that user to spread the word -- just a drizzle at most -- but I was actually envisaging that the user might do something like your suggestion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Peerage_and_Baronetage, which I can see will do much more. You'll also have noticed or surmised that, as an Australian, it's unlikely that I'm big into British Viscounts: I think that my doing his page came about from working on a random link. I think that you will find my posting at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Peerage_and_Baronetage is entirely acceptable.- Peter Ellis - Talk 10:34, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Most people who are more involved in simple article contributing than in the administrative issues of Wikipedia are rather unaware of the many guidelines, manuals or policies that exist, so no, I don't find it odd. Actually I already had assumed it and therefore informed you about it. In my eyes to notify User:Choess wasn't the problem, however to request his support could be considered as canvassing. On the one hand of course it simply could be a request for help in the procedure of the Afd, on the other hand it could be also interpreted as a try of votestacking. Please don't see this as an allegation, but only as a hint to avoid possible future misunderstandings in similar situations. ~~ Phoe _talk ~~ 14:08, 4 January 2010 (UTC)

Please note my restraint in leaving this record of my perceived and/or actual infractions. :) - Peter Ellis - Talk 10:46, 6 January 2010 (UTC)

permission to use image

Hi Peter I am doing a website for Morshead Home in Canberra and found this photo on wikipedia credited to you, I just wanted to check it was ok with you if I use it in their site, thanks cate http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Morshead_Home.JPG —Preceding unsigned comment added by Catada (talk • contribs) 06:16, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

Cate, I'm delighted if it's used. Go for it. Re-use is good. BTW, what is your interest in the Morshead Home, if that's not too complicated?- Peter Ellis - Talk 12:48, 11 January 2010 (UTC)

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Coates

Good Heavens! What a shock.
However, "personal knowledge" is not a good enough source.
Initially, in your edit comment, you say "citing Navy signal from Vice Admiral Russ Crane". However, you don't cite it in the article; you say "personal knowledge". I suggest you replace "personal knowledge" with something like:
"Signal from VADM Russ Crane, 2 June 2010" (plus any more information about that source that you have.)
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 12:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

This is an initial piece of information. It will be replaced with 'formal' information when it is available.- Peter Ellis - Talk 12:48, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, as I would expect/hope. However, I'm puzzled that there's almost nothing on the internet.

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/australia-mourns-naval-officer-death/x8y4tat is the ONLY thing I can find (and it won't load.) I'm surprised that neither AAP nor defence.goc.au have mentioned it yet. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 13:09, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

I had not seen that. Thanks. However, I have seen the Navy signal which, although given "widest distribution", is by definition "internal" until it gets 'into the wild' (ie media). The report confirms he was 51y/o; I had calculated that from my personal count-back but was unwilling to say so until a confirmation.- Peter Ellis - Talk 14:10, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Can't find anything on defweb yet, either. (Not that I could quote it if I did ... ) Strange. Pdfpdf (talk) 14:27, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Oh dear! Although I completely agree with you, there is a sadly large number of WP editors who assert that for some reason, reading a book is OK, but looking at a photo is "Original Research". I'm forewarning you that one of them will come along and revert your edit. It will be interesting to see how long they take. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 15:12, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Then, I'll clean it up (as is only right and proper, perhaps linking to here for even further credibility) and we'll go on from there.- Peter Ellis - Talk 15:22, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Whatever you think is best. Cheers (and good night) Pdfpdf (talk) 15:25, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

Some more info on the Navy Defweb Home Page today. An absolute tragedy! Farewell to a true gentleman! --Oliver Nouther (talk) 12:02, 3 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm surprised that I STILL can't find anything "printed" in the public domain. Pdfpdf (talk) 13:00, 4 June 2010 (UTC)

See www.onlinetribute.com.au/Nigel_Coates. I'll update the page.- Peter Ellis - Talk 01:39, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

To me, that's just weird - the smh has a "tribute" site which refers to something published in the smh, but you can't find the original on the smh site. Well, at least you found the tribute page. Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 06:33, 5 June 2010 (UTC)

File:AU Schooner Coolangatta plk.jpg

Hello Peter

I am researching the wreck of the Coolangatta for family history purposes and would like to know the location where you took the photograph named in the subject title above please.

Paul Ptwatson (talk) 02:34, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Hi, Paul. There's a park at Coolangatta, at the corner of Marine Parade and McLean Street. This plank from the wreck is set up there. You can just make it out on Google Maps 28.166797°S 153.535794°E / -28.166797; 153.535794. The site of the wreck is along the coast to the west of the headland, and is marked by a monument, I think here 28.166353°S 153.523293°E / -28.166353; 153.523293, but just walk along the path and it will be obvious. Best wishes on your searches.- Peter Ellis - Talk 22:35, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Articles for deletion nomination of Phoenix Prize for Spiritual Art

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John, I forgive you. You are obviously sadly un-informed about the importance of art competitions. - Peter Ellis - Talk 08:55, 22 June 2010 (UTC)

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Recent Changes Camp Canberra Aug 11, 2010

I saw you're listed in the ACT Wikipedian page and thought, by chance, you might like to come to this:

RecentChangesCamp, Canberra is being held at the University of Canberra, Building 7, Room 7XC37 on 11 August 2010.
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Hope we'll see you and friends there, but please register so we can prepare lunch. Leighblackall (talk) 07:31, 22 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, Leigh, an interesting idea, and thanks for taking the time; however RCC is on a "work day" and I'm just starting a new job... - Peter Ellis - Talk 04:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Expression of approval

Not that I'm a pedant, or biassed, but I like your change! Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) ;-)

Then, perhaps you noticed that I had written the page on him: Richard Peek (admiral). Notice came through of his recent death, in a signal from the Chief of Navy (Australia). I chose to research his life based on the 'obit' signal, that I found had a few details incorrect :) And so, another Chief is honoured. Several other (possible) pages may also come, based on my research. - Peter Ellis - Talk 13:56, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I enjoyed using the pictures: the older - younger - older. I never knew or met the man, but his quotes make him out as someone who (in the Australian vernacular) "called a spade a 'bloody shovel'", ie "told truth to power". I can only imagine his private and 'closed' feelings, and statements, about the Whitlam Government's slant against the DDL project.- Peter Ellis - Talk 14:03, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Indeed! My personal experience is that the people who get to 2* (and above) are very intelligent and very interesting, have a surprising range of intellectual interests, and a LOT of commonsense and "political" nous. e.g. (because I'm trying to construct an article on him at the moment) Ian Gordon (general). A colleague and I spent a fascinating hour-and-a-half with him and got some VERY useful and informative insights - we were left with NO doubt that "the lights were on and someone was at home"! Pdfpdf (talk) 14:14, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

I did interviews for radio with VADM Rodney Taylor and LTGEN John Sanderson; the former was accepted by the Australian War Memorial as a formal interview. My suggestion: Keep recoreds, and tapes. Submit them to a museum. Best wishes, - Peter Ellis - Talk 14:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

a) Congratulations! b) Hmmm. Good advice, but it's a bit late to do that now! (At least we have a published report that records an analysis/summary of the interview. However, I guess it will be 30 or 50 years before it's unclassified?) Pdfpdf (talk) 14:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

So, the interview was "official" and "on the record" and taken into the 'custody' of the officials? Bummer!- Peter Ellis - Talk 15:13, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

"C'est la vie"! Pdfpdf (talk) 15:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

and taken into the 'custody' of the officials? - Not quite - just classified and not for public release. Pdfpdf (talk) 15:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

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George Bass

Hi. Regarding this edit [6], changing the number of men on Bass's whaleboat to four. There are numerous sources stating that there were six accompanying him. Including ADB, numerous newspaper articles, historical books, etc. I'd be delighted to prove them wrong - do you have any reliable source for the number being four? --Inas66 (talk) 23:31, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

I will concede some ambiguity with the number. The plaque for the 200th anniversary re-enactment (see pic down the entry) is also, arguably, ambiguous to some extent -- 5 did the re-enactment, but 5 crewed with Bass -- it says "George Bass and his crew of five" -- and it is also, arguably, not a primary source -- but I have altered the number to five in the entry. I will bow to higher scholarship. - Peter Ellis - Talk 01:05, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

The "The Life of Matthew Flinders, by Ernest Scott", says.. 'Hunter's despatch indicates that Bass asked to be allowed to man his boat "with volunteers from the King's ships," and that she was "manned to his wish," and Flinders, in his narrative of the voyage, stated that his friend was "furnished with a fine whaleboat, and six weeks' provisions by the Governor, and a crew of six seamen from the ships." '. ADB says.. 'In this open boat with six volunteers and six weeks provisions he left Port Jackson on 3 December 1797.' which is an extract from the biography of George Bass, by Bowden, K. M (1952). In the Bass Coast Shire Heritage Study, [7], it says 'Bass and a volunteer crew of six sailed out of Sydney Cove in late 1797, in an 8.7 metre whaleboat.'

These sources and others may be wrong, and cross-contaminated, but I can find no reference other than the sign on the plaque to say five. We know the whaleboat had six oars. Did Bass row along with 6 of the King's sailors? --Inas66 (talk) 02:06, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Please refer to my last sentence above.- Peter Ellis - Talk 08:58, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

Wikipedia 10 event - Canberra RSVPs and discussion

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Some of those who attended Wikipedia10 in Canberra on 15 January 2011.

Date

Saturday 15 January 2011, 2pm-3.30pm (the times were fluid, and 'liquid')

Description

For Canberra and the surrounding region, at Canberra Southern Cross Club at Jamison (former Western District Rugby Union Club; Cnr Catchpole & Bowman Streets, Macquarie ACT).

We did "schmooze and relax at the outdoor patio area"; it was a family friendly event as can be seen in the picture that also shows the children's playground.

We heard that some people were caught out by the dress code for the club, and did not make the event.

And, it was evident that several people heard about the event at the last minute and turned up on the day: Thanks!

Organizer

Peter Ellis

Thank you to those who gave their RSVP:

• You'll be getting the 10th anniversary "bling" (merchandise);

Also see

en:Wikipedia:WikiProject_Canberra

RSVPs

• Peter Ellis (Organiser)
• Graeme Bartlett (talk)
• Sterry2607 (talk): I am sorry but I will have to decline. Unfortunately, another group I am involved in is meeting at the NLA at 1.30pm that same day. However, I hope that by responding here I will be kept up to date with action/decisions?
  • Thanks; we can only do the things we can do....- Peter Ellis
• I'm keen - especially so because of the playground! ManicSpider (talk) 04:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
  • DustFormsWords (talk) has requested that I also RSVP in the affirmative on his behalf - ManicSpider (talk) 04:13, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
• Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:07, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
• Skyring I'll be there. Can give a lift out to the wilds of Jamison from the cultural heartland if need be. Would they have cappuccino out there, do you think? --Pete (talk) 03:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
• Leighblackall (talk) 08:39, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
• Saturday in a suburb far from civic/manuka is a bit hard, but do note me down as "maybe". Thank you for organizing. CJG (Talk) 00:50, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
• Will be there. Capitalistroadster (talk) 00:53, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
• I'm keen to meet up with other geeks, even though I'm just a... uhm... semi-geek! - Rosatyan (talk) 01:42, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
• Look forward to seeing you all there - Angela and Sean 13:28, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

Discussions

Hi Peter, I've just reverted this edit adding the WP10 event to the main Canberra article per WP:SELF, etc - I suspect that you didn't mean to add it to the actual article ;) Cheers, Nick-D (talk) 03:55, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Nick, I did intend for it to be there, even though I'd messed up the edit and have now fixed it.- Peter Ellis - Talk 04:00, 31 December 2010 (UTC)

Hi Peter, you may also wish to invite people from Category:Wikipedians in the Australian Capital Territory. I have checked B's H's and I's and invited the active ones. Some of those extras I invited last week seem to be interested already so perhaps there is still time. For future use I also have a list: User:Graeme Bartlett/Canberra invitees and this link shows recent editors in the region articles : http://toolserver.org/~daniel/WikiSense/CategoryIntersect.php?wikilang=en&wikifam=.wikipedia.org&basecat=Australian+Capital+Territory&basedeep=3&mode=rc&hours=480&go=Scan&format=html&userlang=en Graeme Bartlett (talk) 23:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

Well, I put a message on the site of each member of "WikiProject: Canberra", so, I guess it's also my job to do the rest, too.... That's what a volunteer does!  :-) - Peter Ellis - Talk 10:46, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for organising this. We have a lot of locals not in the Project, but doing other stuff instead. I have checked from A to M now, and T to Z. Volunteers do as much as they want to here, but I suppose you offered to do the whole job! :-) Graeme Bartlett (talk) 21:29, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

RCC Canberra - Jan 28-30 @ UC

Hi Peter, thanks for organising WP10 Canberra. I've loaded a photo to the event page. Here's a invitation for the event we're hosting at UC in a couple of weeks. Hope you can make it and drag others along. Regards Leighblackall (talk) 05:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

User:Peter Ellis/sandbox

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Edit of image of John Rudder?

Hi Peter I notice you contributed the image of John Rudder some time ago. Since the death of his first wife Trixie, and John's subsequent remarriage, it feels appropriate that we use a different photo, or edit the existing one to cull Trixie's image. Do you have an alternative image we could use? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.127.210 (talk) 10:19, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

I have cropped out Trixie, and will put the new image up instead.- Peter Ellis - Talk 00:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

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Hello. Thank you for your reminder. I do not claim to be a saint. Regarding your [Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Margaret_Reeson|proposal for deletion] of the entry for Margaret Reeson, please also assume good faith: I really do think that you do not, as a continuing Presbyterian, understand the polity of the Uniting Church in Australia, and the importance that our Moderators present and past have in the life of the church. Margaret's husband, Ron, is almost as notable, yet I could not justify to myself an entry on him just because he was a missionary minister and parish minister then regional (Presbytery) minister (equivalent to a bishop in episcopal churches) for some 15 years before retirement. As someone has said to me, that makes Margaret equivalent to an Archbishop in an episcopal church, and therein lies her notability. Then, there is the scholarship, which grew out of a Masters research program and became her books, principally about the little-discussed subject of the wives and families of male missionaries. Yes, I know this person personally; Yet, I am a careful chooser of which of my circle of acquaintances I will add as biographical articles here, and they are always done with good reason and, I believe, ample justification and scholarship on my part.- Peter Ellis - Talk 00:29, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

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I find it a bit of a shame you weren't man enough to apologise. Shit happens I guess. All the best with editing. JRA_WestyQld2 ^Talk 04:18, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

Apologise for what? I can't see anything that I said or did for which you deserve an apology. To match your rhetorical and political metaphor, "Please explain."- Peter Ellis - Talk 07:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

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The Bible in Matthew says to put your light on the top of the basket, not under it.  The foundation of notability is identifiability, which I think the congregation at KUC, insisting that they are not a building, is successfully obfuscating by having no pictures of the building on their website.  To quantify this statement, it took me eight full man hours to find KUC on a Google satellite map.  It was easy enough to locate the intersection, but looking at [the picture] on Google, there is no reason to suspect that the building in the distance is the church.  Zeroing in on the actual location was finally accomplished by finding a picture of the church on the web site of the architects of the church, and comparing this street view with the aerial view available from Google.  (Of course, by the liberal definition, I still haven't found the church on Google, because the church is not a building.  If this is your personal view, then you need to consider that this congregation is not currently WP:N notable.)  So assuming that the congregation feels righteous and will not help in identifying their we-are-not-a-building building, I'd suggest that the first thing you could do to improve the notability of KUC is to work on its identifiability: (1) get the maps specifically including Google improved, i.e., get the Google place marker on the building instead of in the middle of the street intersection, (2) does the church have a street address, (3) make your own web site with pictures of the building identifying the building as owned by KUC.  Include pictures of the view toward the surrounding area, such as showing where people park on Sunday morning, the Kippax Fair, and the "adjacent park" where the Christmas Day 2005 services were held. Is the maximum seating capacity of the sanctuary recorded by the fire department?  If there is a sign posted to that effect, the sign could be photographed.

Assuming you have access to local libraries and local newspaper archives that go back to 1969 that would include articles about the previous names for the church, you should be able to find additional articles that are not available on the internet so as to satisfy WP:GNG.  You could report these references on your new web site.

I'm still puzzled by the argument that recognition by both the ACT and the federal government are primary references.  I'd be interested in your viewpoint about this.

I'd also think about material that was on the previous article that was of no interest to readers in Kentucky, such as names of the staff, including the complete list of names of ministers.  Learning that Kippax has a kitchen, has preschool classes on Thursday, and the building was used for a concert, is pretty much indiscriminate information = not encyclopedic.

I think the AfD problem here is that people are questioning churches on the definition of notability in WP:N, "worthy of notice" without being able to articulate or quantify their objection.  Note the argument in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Birchcliff Bluffs United Church that the church there was WP:RUNOFTHEMILL.  The argument is bogus, because the closest example in the essay is a bank that has been in the news five times in 30 years because of being robbed, whereas the church in question could be expected to have mentions, or more, in 500 articles in the last 90 years.  But I think the attitude is real.  Unscintillating (talk) 01:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Dear Unscintillating, firstly, thank you for the comments, which are obvious considered, extensive and intended to help; I don't plan to answer every point. I also note that you assisted with references in the final days of the article's life; a great part of who we are and what we do now is supported by Government grants so we can reach people in need in the local community, but that's not necessarily 'notable' -- what a pity that the organisation is only 42 years old and not 420 or 4,200.

Are you remembering what you saw in the article, or do you still have access to it somehow? Your detail in the comments was astonishing to me: "the Kippax Fair, and the "adjacent park" where the Christmas Day 2005 services were held", "names of the staff, including the complete list of names of ministers", "kitchen" (it's not just where we make the coffee; for instance, we run cooking/training sessions for people with disabilities and mental impairments -- one of the programs for which Government funding was provided, and thanks for the references), "preschool" (there are playgroups every weekday and sometimes on Saturday, currently 10/11 sessions a week), etc.

As for the ministers, many articles on organisations list the CEOs, previous holders of high office, etc, and we've only had a relatively few ministers, several of whom border on notability themselves. (Ron Reeson would be a bishop in a denomination that has them, and then might have been 'notable'. See Episcopal polity, but also see his mention at Margaret Reeson.)

The church's web site, you are correct, blows our trumpet in a different way from most. The old website used to have a picture of the building on the front page, but we went away from that. We identify the address by the corner because we have almost equal frontages on both streets and people can find the carpark that way. But, I take your point and will suggest that the webmaster includes a diagram.

I think that you are correct about people's inability to articulate objections; churches are less important than they were, and to more people, these days. With no data whatsoever, I'd also posit that Wikipedians as a group might well be self-selected as less likely to be 'believers'/sympathetic.

8 man-hours to find it on Google Maps? Surely, this is hyperbole. However, I've asked Google to shift the marker; the picture is okay, even though the cross on the highest point of the roof is behind the tree on the right of the entrance.

Notability is a hurdle that seems to be shifting up every day; but why? Surely there is room in Wikipedia for obscure stuff that is well or at least adequately referenced. With thanks, - Peter Ellis - Talk 03:27, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

I spent about 24 man-hours on Sat and Sun before posting my !vote at the AfD, the first 8 hours of which were locating the church.  I saved a copy of the source on Saturday night, Feb 5.  In locating the building, I started with the presumption that the church was the L-shaped building with the red roof.  Search on "Hardwick Cres" and see what you learn, not much.  I remember finding another Google place near the corner of Hardwick and Luke.  I didn't have the luxury of being able to drive to the intersection to do personal research.  Even now, if you try comparing this picture with this Google map, it takes time before finding features, like the border of the playground, that lock the two pictures together.  Once I was able to prove where the building was that the architects identified as "Kippax Uniting Church", I knew that this map was accurate and added it to the article.

I see that your request to Google to move the place marker was accepted within the last eight hours, thank you.

It sounds that you are using semi-public parking (is that the church or the building that uses parking?), so a sketch of where people are parking, perhaps starting with an aerial photo, might be of interest on your church web site.  How about a floor plan of the building, especially the location of the "worship centre" that caught fire?

Your comments about your kitchen are interesting, it is a world-class kitchen and deserves recognition as such.  But if there are no reliable independent sources that discuss it, and you can't get the media to do a story about it, it may be more appropriate for such material to be on a personal web site than on Wikipedia.  Unscintillating (talk) 16:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

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Hi. Thanks. Notice that I found some more material to help this matter. It is a "matter of perspective"; both sides can claim that they have right on their side. I guess that the ABC did not think through the non-official visit part of him getting inside to the studio, and, neither did his people.- Peter Ellis - Talk 05:05, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

Well most of it is in the host's hands. The local media here compared it with unofficial (tourist) visit of Serbian president, which was happening at the same time in the Czech Republic. He never met any Czech officials but had Czech police bodyguard and was at all times approached as the head of state, which he is. Anyway, it is insignificant issue.

I am sorry but I streamlined your latest edit. It was getting too large for an issue of an old man with metal hip not being patient enough to go through security check. Cimmerian praetor (talk) 12:00, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

The accusation made has an effect on Australia, and the security officials, and I want it clear that Klaus made the decision to not wait for the scan that every other "private citizen" (as he says that he was, for this trip) is required to undergo to gain entry.- Peter Ellis - Talk 14:45, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

Your original entry stated that he decided "not to undergo", while the reports suggest that he decided "not to wait" (as you have now also written).

The fact that it is not an official visit does not change the fact that he is a head of state. The only difference is, that for an official visit there would have to be an invitation by Australian government (thus even if the PM would meet him, it would not make the visit official). Personally I don't blame the security guy, he did his job right, it seems that just ABC didn't think things through. And the way they later reported about it was simply disrespectful (even though I am very far from being Klaus' fan). Cimmerian praetor (talk) 16:48, 2 August 2011 (UTC)

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Pretty close indeed. But have you heard that NSW Police Comm. Andrew Scipiones wife and daughter were in the Lindt cafe about an hour before the siege began?! [8] Imagine how different the situation could have been, if they had been there later, and Monis found out who they were? ≈ 220 of ^Borg 07:48, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Agree. The images of his wife's grief (coming apart) on camera are explained, now. There was a whole story sequence in The West Wing where a loved one was lost / compromised and the principal (US President) had to step aside. We think it's just a story, until it comes "close to home".- Peter Ellis - Talk 12:19, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

Really, I didn't see that. I haven't heard him mention it either. Wonder if it had any influence on his apparent decision to not renew his contract as I heard reported on radio? No mention of it on his BLP, a bit trivial I suppose?¿ 220 of ^Borg 14:31, 21 December 2014 (UTC)

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Sorry, I thought I had resolved that with mine being included 'under' the edit conflict.- Peter Ellis - Talk 17:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, I am interested in the Commemorative T-shirt produced for the crew of HMAS Townsville following their 1981 Christmas operation to detain, the Foreign Fishing Vessel "Yuan Tsun". I noticed that you have uploaded their pics, so was wondering if you can help me in this regard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mikekilo5 (talk • contribs) 03:53, 20 August 2015 (UTC)

Understandably rare. This is mine. I was not part of the crew at the time of this operation, but joined not long after. The t-shirt is was produced in only limited numbers and sizes, for crew and close family.- Peter Ellis - Talk 13:10, 21 August 2015 (UTC)

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The plaque looks really good. Looking forward to hearing from you over email. Mikekilo5 (talk) 04:11, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

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I seek permission to use your photo of the leading marker as above for the book I am writing about my sailing experience from Darwin to Adelaide down the east coast.

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I'd be pleased. You have my permission to use the image File:Navigation_leading_markers_and_lights.JPG with attribution (similar to) "Wikipedia: Peter Ellis" - Peter Ellis - Talk 14:41, 15 October 2015 (UTC)

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Hi, you're invited to the Canberra meetup which will take place at King O'Malley's Irish Pub in Civic on 17 February 2016. Bidgee (talk) 02:13, 5 February 2016 (UTC)

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Hi, Peter! I wonder if you can help me out with this edit to Lake Eacham. As you will see, you contributed the photo of the war memorial, so I am trying to work out if the anonymous edit is trying to say that the war memorial in your photo is in Yungaburra or whether they are talking about a second different war memorial. I looked on the Qld War Memorial Register and Monument Australia which are usually good sources of info for war memorials in Queensland, but came up empty handed on both of those sites in relation to a war memorial in Lake Eacham but there is one in Yungaburra (but looks nothing like your photo). Can you recall exactly where your photo was taken? Was it definitely near Lake Eacham or could it have been in Yungaburra? Kerry (talk) 01:13, 26 February 2016 (UTC)

Kerry, it's dimly past. However, I kind of remember this as being near a visitor centre, and have looked and seen BBQs near that (see pic) so am affirming my assumption. I was emphatic about it being at the lake. So, another memorial at Yungaburra is also plausible.- Peter Ellis - Talk 11:35, 6 March 2016 (UTC)

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Hi Peter,

Just a heads-up that I've changed ANZAC Parade (Canberra) to Anzac Parade on various pages ref https://www.nationalcapital.gov.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=281 and https://www.awm.gov.au/visit/.

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I have no trouble, so long as it works. I went along there the other day and was reminiscing about doing the original walk for pics and then article build. :-) - Peter Ellis - Talk 15:41, 30 August 2016 (UTC)

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I'll be in Canberra from the 29-30 August, there is a planned meet-up at King O'Malley's (though I'm open to suggestions) from 6pm on the 29 August. Sorry for the short noticed, only had the trip confirmed this afternoon. Bidgee (talk) 11:36, 22 August 2016 (UTC)

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I don't understand why you're adding that sentence into the Ramsay article about the results, because it's just wrong.

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Indra ESGUERRA partially excluded. Tara CHEYNE elected 4. Gordon RAMSAY elected 5.

The final count had Cheyne on 9196 votes and Ramsay on 8564 votes, which Berry long ago already elected. The list shows 7858 votes for Berry because that's the point at which she was elected, so any subsequent votes that went to Berry continued on as her surplus. The Drover's Wife (talk) 07:38, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

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