Talk:Peace Pagoda
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[edit]Help! Another peace pagoda is in western massachusetts (leverett, to be exact) but I'm too much of a wiki newb to edit this properly! Can there be a disambiguation page? Please see- http://www.peacepagoda.org/
- Leverett is listed now. --Concrete Cowboy 23:22, 16 April 2006 (UTC).
San Francisco
[edit]The Japantown pagoda has to stay, even though it is not a Nipponzan Myohoji stupa. It is generally known in Frisco as the Peace Pagoda. --Concrete Cowboy 15:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
Peace Pagodas in Sri Lanka
[edit]There are apparently three or four peace pagodas in Sri Lanka as well:
Galle: http://www.travelblog.org/Asia/Sri-Lanka/Southern-Province/Galle/blog-279919.html
Sri Padra (Adam's Peak): http://wikimapia.org/6512653/Saama-Chaiththiya-Japanese-Peace-Pagoda
(I read there is a fourth one in a place called Walapane, but I couldn't find any concrete info on that one).
Maybe somebody can add at least the first three to the page? --Markus —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.25.103.254 (talk) 08:05, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
- I have added Ampara because it has a good citation. I have also added Galle, though the reference is not good but it is credible. I have not added the other two because the citation is either very poor or non-existent. Please keep searching for a reliable source and best of all, public domain or GFDL pictures.
Here's another reference to Sri Pada Peace Pagoda near Galle (it was blocked by a spam filter so I'm trying to add it using "dots" - I hope that's alright): http://travel dot mapsofworld dot com/sri-lanka/galle-tourist-attractions/the-peace-pagoda.html It's also in my Japanese book, though that doesn't help us much. Walapane Peace Pagoda is also listed in the Japanese photo book, as having been completed in 1983. I'm having trouble finding it (using Wikimapia). It might be this one though the description doesn't give enough information to know: Aratthana temple, Hanguranketha, Sri Lanka: 7.1790609, -279.2314721 http://wikimapia.org#lat=7.1790609&lon=80.7685279&z=19&l=0&m=b&v=1&search=Walapane I will ask the monks for more information. I haven't found any references on the Web yet, though.
- One more item to mention is the introduction to the whole article. The first Peace Pagoda was Hanaokayama. By my list (which is in date order), Hiroshima Peace Pagoda was the 14th Nipponzan Myohoji Peace Pagoda completed. So the introduction saying that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were the first to be built is not at all correct. Many early Peace Pagodas were constructed in Japan, so I don't think I'll be able to get you references, unless I can scan and send you the whole book (in Japanese). Let me know if it would help to copy the list to this talk page. Here's the sample of the first 14 Peace Pagodas:
- 1954 - Hanaokayama Peace Pagoda, Kumamoto (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order.
1959 - Peace Pagoda, Fukui (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1959 - Peace Pagoda, Kushiro (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1959 - Peace Pagoda, Sapporo (Mt. Moiwa) (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1960 - Peace Pagoda, Himeji (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1961 - Peace Pagoda, Atami (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1961 - Peace Pagoda, Hidasakagami (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1962 - Peace Pagoda, Wakamatsu (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1963 - Peace Pagoda, Osaka (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1964 - Peace Pagoda, Gotemba, Shizuoka (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1964 - Peace Pagoda, Fushiki (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1964 - Peace Pagoda, Aomori (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1964 - Peace Pagoda, Utsunomiya (Japan). Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist Order. 1966 - Peace Pagoda, Hiroshima (Japan). Marilyn @MLangfeld @marilynsview 05:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlangfeld (talk • contribs)
- It is perfectly valid to add that data in English, even though the source is in Japanese. The existing claims are unsourced. What you need to do is provide as full details as possible of the book, minimally the ISBN (you must not scan it of course!). It seems to me that a Japanese book is most likely to be the best reliable source, because Nipponzan Myohoji is a Japanese Buddhist Order. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:08, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
Hi John, I don't find a copyright page, will ask for more information during the coming week. Haven't forgotten. Maybe I should call this a booklet rather than a book, if it doesn't have a copyright page. It does show a photo of each Peace Pagoda, though. Thanks for being patient. Marilyn @MLangfeld @marilynsview 20:39, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Bhubaneswar?
[edit]Isn't the mandir at Dhauli Giri also a peace pagoda? It looks very similar to the ones pictured here, plus I swear that the signs there said it was one. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.215.129.142 (talk) 08:44, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
- Well it is possible. But remember that there are many stupas in the world, but only a few were built for the peace campaign. So you need to gather the evidence to proves its origins before you can add it. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 14:19, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
Hi, I've been researching the Shanti Stupas/Peace Pagodas built by Nipponzan Myohoji Buddhist monks. I was given a paperback book on all of their Peace Pagodas by a Nipponzan monk at the Leverett Peace Pagoda, to aid my research. Unfortunately, it is in Japanese, however each Peace Pagoda's name/location is listed in English. Dhauli Giri Shanti Stupa is listed. I also found a very brief reference to Fujii Guruji (Nichidatsu Fujii, the founder of Nipponzan Myohoji) in this article: http://www.dhauli.net/shanti-stupa-dhauligiri.html So, I believe it should be included. Marilyn @MLangfeld @marilynsview 04:53, 17 September 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mlangfeld (talk • contribs)
- So that is a good citation! Add it! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 12:10, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
Shanti Stupa v Peace Pagoda
[edit]An editor added 'Shanti Stupa' as an equivalence of Peace Pagoda, because we already have an article called Shanti Stupa that refers to one specific stupa, not a class of stupas, so I reverted. Of course it may be that that one name is a simple English/Japanese translation of the other? --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
- Hi John. Shanti Stupa is an alternate name given to modern Peace Pagodas (at least those associated with Nipponzan Myohoji) in India/Nepal and Sri Lanka. A quick definition of shanti would be inner peace, and stupa and pagoda are roughly equivalent. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shanti_Stupa , which associates the term with one of the eight (I believe) Shanti Stupas created by the vision of Nichidatsu Fujii in India, Nepal and Sri Lanka. See also http://shantistupa.org/ which discusses the Delhi Shanti Stupa (Peace Pagoda); the photo at upper right of this Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajgir shows the Rajgir Shanti Stupa (Peace Pagoda); and the Shanti Stupa Dhauli Giri: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Dhauli-Giri-Shanti-Stupa-Bhubaneswar-Orissa.jpg All of them are listed on this page as Peace Pagodas as well. So the pages that list one single location as "the Shanti Stupa" are incorrect. There are several. Marilyn @MLangfeld @marilynsview 20:33, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
Capitalization
[edit]I almost 'corrected' the term "Peace Pagoda" to the lowercase form "peace pagoda" on another page, because I assumed it was incorrect, but I see that it's capitalized the former way here. Is it a proper noun? Is it in fact proper to capitalize it? AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 19:22, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
- It seems to me that capitalization is appropriate because it is a major concept. To say "this stupa is a peace pagoda" does not convey the same meaning as "this stupa is a Peace Pagoda", because the form term is similar to "this stupa is gold" whereas the latter is saying that the stupa has been explicitly dedicated to the cause of World Peace [there, I did it again]. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 16:45, 1 July 2014 (UTC)
- Ahh, that makes sense! I think, in that case, there is some work to do on World peace to get it all consistent and in order. AdventurousSquirrel (talk) 20:30, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
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[edit]I reverted this good faith addition because it does not appear that the stupa at the monastery is a Peace Pagoda. All peace pagodas are stupas but not all stupas are peace pagodas. If a reliable source can be found to say it is, then please reinstate citing that source. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 17:14, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
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