Talk:cisnormativity
Latest comment: 9 years ago by Dbfirs in topic Feedback
Is this word really uncountable?
[edit]Is this word really uncountable? I think it isn'f. 92.40.249.52 19:39, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
- I don't know why one would ever use the plural. Google turned up a usage of "hetero and cisnormativities", but that's really a plural of normativity. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 10:19, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
Feedback
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Hi there, text in this listing reads "that a normal person's gender identity", this should definitely read "that a person's gender identity". The word 'normal' is subjective - what is a 'normal' person?
- It's talking about what is assumed, not what is objectively real. "Normal" is part of the assumption that is made by a person. It's okay in the definition: we are not saying what is normal and what isn't. Equinox ◑ 00:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- You're right, but the anon has hit on something. If we say cisnormativity means someone is assuming "a normal person" is X, that implies that the person acknowledges that some people ("non-normal" people) are not X. In fact, I think it'd be clearer to borrow wording from heteronormativity: it's more like completely ignoring and/or presuming the non-existence of non-cisgender people — assuming that everyone is cisgender. (Heteronormativity’s three senses need to be combined into one, which I will do now, but the wording is elucidating.) - -sche (discuss) 01:08, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
- I don't understand why the new definition is better than the previous one: "The assumption that all people are cissexual, i.e. have a gender identity that is the same as their biological sex". I haven't reverted Robin Lionheart's re-defining because I'm not sure whether I really understand the usage. Dbfirs 08:39, 21 September 2015 (UTC)