User talk:DTLHS

English rhymes

It seems that you have added institute, destitute, etc. to Rhymes:English/uːt and parsimony, testimony, etc. to Rhymes:English/əʊni, and added {{rhyme}} linking to the respective Rhymes pages on each word entry. But all these words have stress on the first syllable, so the rhyme of parsimony is /-ɑː(ɹ)sɪmə(ʊ)ni/, and that of institute is, well, /-ɪnstɪt(j)uːt/. In some, particularly American, schools, it is arguable that a syllable that comes after the primary (tonic) stress in these words bears a secondary stress, but that's not the kind of stress that we talk about when we talk about rhymes. I've never heard of such a definition of a rhyme that "institute rhymes with root". I think you should undo the additions. Nardog (talk) 22:23, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

To me they rhyme. Remove them if you want, I won't edit any more rhyme pages. DTLHS (talk) 22:26, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Alright, removed. Nardog (talk) 23:06, 23 July 2018 (UTC)

Genocide

Presumably you disagree with the explanation given in the edit you recently rolled back; care to offer your own explanation? 68.2.95.244 15:11, 24 July 2018 (UTC)

It's a figurative use, it seems clearly distinct to me. RFD it if you want. DTLHS (talk) 00:42, 25 July 2018 (UTC)

Just to be clear - the sentence ‘attesting’ this figurative use of the unqualified term genocide makes immediate sense to you in the sense of culturicide, and not literal killing, if one excises the qualifier ‘cultural’? 2607:FB90:9DAA:B266:ED39:8BBC:3BBD:4CB2 17:17, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

I have no idea what you're talking about. I told you to take it to RFD. DTLHS (talk) 18:43, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

outbrake oneself

Hi outbrake oneself has a different meaning to outbreak someone else. If A outbrakes B, A appies their brakes later than B, (in order to overtake). But if A outbrakes himself, it means he applied the brakes too late for the bend and could not get around it properly. (go wide). So it deserves some kind of mention. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 01:54, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

I am moving this discussion to where other people can see it. DTLHS (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

about roll back on ਪਹਾਰਾ

Hi!Please tell me if u remove English translation section , then how to back link ਪਹਾਰਾ with forge .Guglani (talk) 01:54, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

You can put it in the definition as I have done. DTLHS (talk) 03:21, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi! please show me how? Either show with link or explain procedure , I could not follow with what you have done.Guglani (talk) 05:10, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

diff DTLHS (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks again ,anyway , I had seen difference between revisions 50057740 and 50054249 earlier and conveyed my thanks earlier too which you have reverted on this talk pageGuglani (talk) 08:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

No, I was the one who reverted it: you accidentally deleted several other people's comments when you added yours. Chuck Entz (talk) 08:13, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

French request

Hi. I'm working with what comes to my mind at User:Per utramque cavernam/French, but I'd like to be more systematic.

I've noticed someone has done a surprisingly good job with French idioms at el.wiktionary, and I'd like to see if we're missing a lot here. So would you know how to extract the contents of el:Κατηγορία:Γαλλική γλώσσα (= CAT:French lemmas), and make a list of multiword entries (i.e. with a space in the title) from that? Preferably the list would contain only red links.

(Could be useful to do the same out of fr:Catégorie:français, but there will be a lot more, and probably a lot of less urgently needed things.)

Please let me know! Thanks. Per utramque cavernam 10:42, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes I can do that. DTLHS (talk) 16:02, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Nice, thanks! Per utramque cavernam 20:28, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. If it's not too much hassle, could I ask you to do the same thing with the Dutch wiktionary category (nl:Categorie:Woorden in het Frans)? Per utramque cavernam 16:07, 1 November 2018 (UTC)

@Per_utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/missing dutch french entries DTLHS (talk) 00:48, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Per utramque cavernam 13:27, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Could you do the same with fr:Catégorie:Locutions verbales en français and fr:Catégorie:Locutions adverbiales en français please? PUC – 14:57, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/Greek French phrases DTLHS (talk) 01:09, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Indeed, very nice. --New WT User Girl (talk) 17:11, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. I've just created a hundred or so redirects from the curly apostrophe to the straight one, but I've only taken care of entries I've created myself; there's bound to be more in need of it.

So do you think you could make a list of all entries having a straight apostrophe in their title? I could then make a subst to the curly and see how many red links there are. Per utramque cavernam 19:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

All entries from where? DTLHS (talk) 19:11, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Here (CAT:French lemmas). Sorry for the confusion. Per utramque cavernam 19:12, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, in a few hours. DTLHS (talk) 19:16, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

@Per_utramque_cavernam User:DTLHS/French apostrophes DTLHS (talk) 00:45, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks! Per utramque cavernam 08:00, 30 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi. Is there a way to make a list of all the French red links in our translation tables? That would help me to find missing words, and also to spot translations that have been incorrectly entered (translations with parentheses, for example).

Joyeux Noël btw. Per utramque cavernam 13:38, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

@Per utramque cavernam User:DTLHS/cleanup/french t missing, limited it to the first 50,000 entries. Didn't filter redirects. DTLHS (talk) 19:06, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Bonté divine ! Per utramque cavernam 21:58, 26 December 2018 (UTC)

Hi. The Kurdi Wiktionary (ku.wiktionary), of all places, often has entries for English idioms that we lack; an example would be on the quiet, which has only recently been created here - by me. Could you make another of those lists out of it? Canonicalization (talk) 20:09, 16 October 2019 (UTC)

@Canonicalization User:DTLHS/Kurdish English entries DTLHS (talk) 01:23, 21 October 2019 (UTC)

combined forms, slightly different

Hey again. I need your help in generating a list of any entries that use {{es-compound of}} but not in the definition line - it's to get a list of Spanish combined forms that have idiomatic meanings, such as arreglárselas, meneársela etc. --New WT User Girl (talk) 21:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

unirse, dársela, arreglárselas, palmarla, cortarla, parirla, liarla, liarlas, ingeniárselas, jugársela, agenciárselas DTLHS (talk) 01:38, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Sweet. I added some more to the list. Any idea of a category name? My think tank came up with Category:Spanish combined forms with idiomatic meaning, Category:Spanish clitic verb phrases and Category:Spanish compounds with special meaning. --New WT User Girl (talk) 17:04, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

(I think) we have the same thing in French: se la péter. Maybe we should come up with a common scheme. Per utramque cavernam 18:20, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Does "phrasal verb" not work? DTLHS (talk) 18:43, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

Nope! acabar de, acabar con and abusar de are phrasal verbs, if there are any in Spanish. --New WT User Girl (talk) 19:55, 3 August 2018 (UTC)

A similar case: on the model of CAT:English terms with placeholder "it", I've also created CAT:French verbs with placeholder y and CAT:French verbs with placeholder en (although someone has argued over at fr.wikt that they're not really "placeholders", and has suggested the name CAT:French verbs with lexicalized en instead).

So maybe you and I could create CAT:Spanish verbs with lexicalized pronouns and CAT:French verbs with lexicalized pronouns respectively? Per utramque cavernam 08:48, 4 August 2018 (UTC)

So I made Category:Spanish verbs with an article as a placeholder, which beat out the rest for least crap name. A close second was Category:Spanish verbs with lexical clitics. --XY3999 (talk) 11:37, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

@XY3999: Are you sure these are articles though? Articles are supposed to determine nouns, and there aren't any in vérselas y deseárselas. I think they're pronouns, as in French. Per utramque cavernam 11:42, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Yeah, they're obviously pronouns. Good thing I made a deliberate mistake in order to get feedback. --XY3999 (talk) 11:45, 24 August 2018 (UTC)

Actually, I now prefer Category:Spanish idiomatic combined forms. --XY3999 (talk) 17:12, 25 August 2018 (UTC)

Red Badge of Courage

Here's your own Red Badge of Courage, DTLHS, for all the courageous work you do here at en.wiktionary

Yes, I'm checking all the Red Badge of Courage quotes. I've already found one that was not from that novel but from another one of Stephen Crane's works, and one quote where the spellings did not match the source. We have just finished a first edition on Wikisource, so I am taking the opportunity to make corrections here, and link directly to source pages on the Wikiosurce copy. --EncycloPetey (talk) 20:14, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you. DTLHS (talk) 20:16, 7 August 2018 (UTC)

undinting

From your interesting word list: undinting seems attestable insofar as a bunch of people have used it, but it generally seems to be an error for undinted (and in fact even that word seems a bit odd to me: I feel as though there is some other word these people are reaching for, but I can't work out what it is). So it seems to mean "not checked or stopped, boundless" rather than (as "undinting" would suggest) "not checking or stopping some other thing". Do you think we should use the misconstruction template? Equinox ◑ 04:08, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Perhaps unstinted or unstinting is what (some of) those writers meant. Equinox ◑ 04:10, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Sure, "misconstruction" works. It does feel like a word that almost means something (on an unconscious level, if that makes sense). DTLHS (talk) 04:16, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/eswikisource

Hey D. Could you regen the pages at User:DTLHS/eswikisource? It could also be optimized by making auto-links to any combined forms, like was done in the Tracking pages - we see tenérselas and echadle and we can click on a link that auto-makes the page. We may or may not want to do that for obsolete combined forms like hízolos, sonreíase, moviose, movióse. --XY3999 (talk) 11:29, 31 August 2018 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 17:10, 1 September 2018 (UTC)

Reverts on abba

Why were my edits reverted? Am I doing something wrong, they were in good faith. Torrent01 (talk) 22:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Every entry needs to conform to WT:ELE. Your entry had no indication what the connection was supposed to be with אָב. DTLHS (talk) 22:41, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

Abba is the Latin alphabet transliteration of אָב. Please restore the entry with the proper formatting. Torrent01 (talk) 22:44, 18 September 2018 (UTC)

See About Hebrew. We don't do those. Besides which your transliteration is massively wrong: you can't get "abba" out of אָב- it only has one vowel, and the ב has no daghesh, so it's not double. The Hebrew transliteration is "ov". Chuck Entz (talk) 03:12, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

I see that your entry was for Judeo-Tat. See WT:Judeo-Tat transliteration instead of About Hebrew. That said, the Judeo-Tat transliteration is the same as the Hebrew one, so you were still massively wrong- in spite of the correct transliteration being right there at אָב (ov) (not to mention in the {{jdt-scripts}} template you added to the entry). You shouldn't be editing any language that uses the Hebrew script, if this is any indication. Chuck Entz (talk) Chuck Entz (talk) 03:57, 19 September 2018 (UTC)

Fraud revert

What's your issue with my edit? Also, please do not make reverts without an explanation in the edit summary, especially when the edit is reliably sourced. White whirlwind (talk) 22:08, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Black's Law Dictionary is irrelevant. Individual English definitions do not rely on specific references. References is a level 3 header and not a level 2 header. DTLHS (talk) 22:56, 22 September 2018 (UTC)

Missing conj

Hey D, ¿can you generate a page of all one-word Spanish verbs without a ====Conjugation==== section? --XY3999 (talk) 12:01, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Template:es-noun

Hey guapo. You're the Spanish Modules expert around here (as well as expert in sooo many other things...TBH, you're my hero). I made acero al carbono and the auto-gen plural was acero al carbonos, which should be aceros al carbono. Maybe the es-noun Module (or whatever it is) needs fiddling. --XY3999 (talk) 13:15, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 16:14, 28 September 2018 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/eswikipedia

Hey. Any chance of an update of User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? We've been working through some misspellings on es.wikipedia, and I've done loads of missing entries here. Nice to see how much progress has been made, and if any tyops have been missed. --WF110 (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)--WF110 (talk) 08:02, 11 October 2018 (UTC)

Hey. Another update would be good! Especially for the combined forms. --XY3999 (talk) 09:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 03:54, 1 December 2018 (UTC)

How to find quotations of a word

Hi DTLHS, Thanks again for your help over at the tea room regarding cargon.

I was wondering, how did you find so many quality quotations for it so quickly?

I have another word I'm investigating, babbit, from Alcolu,_South_Carolina, which are claimed to be "a metal coin stamped with an "A", which could be used only in the company store." and I was wondering if you could teach me how to find uses of a word in literature to confirm or deny it's inclusion/definition.

Much appreciated for your help, Elfabet (talk) 12:46, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I basically just use Google Books. DTLHS (talk) 16:13, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I found one example at Citations:babbit and another at Citations:babbitt referring to coins- one in Florida and another from a place called Agton(? not sure where that is). Not contemporary usages but historical books. @Kiwima is good at this kind of thing, maybe they can help. Regional newspapers would be a good place to look, if you have any access to that type of resource. DTLHS (talk) 19:05, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

I mostly use google books, google scholar, and google groups - I find the key to finding quotations is a combination of persistence (keep looking even when most of what you find is dross), and finding good search terms to add or exclude to narrow the field. Kiwima (talk) 20:49, 23 October 2018 (UTC)

superlatives

Hey D. Your bot doesn't seem to like generating forms for Spanish superlatives like celebradísimo, bondadosísimo. Any reason for its pickiness? --XY3999 (talk) 18:09, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

I never implemented es-adj-sup, but I guess I can. DTLHS (talk) 23:56, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

So I redirected es-adj-sup to es-adj so there's no need to tweak the code. It can reverted if necessary. --XY3999 (talk) 23:41, 21 November 2018 (UTC)

Tracking

Hey D. Next time you antiblue your Tracking pages, I reckon it'd b a smart move to remove anything which has a Catalan link in pages like User:DTLHS/tracking/El Periodico (Spanish)/20161015. --XY3999 (talk) 18:15, 2 November 2018 (UTC)

Category:Maltese English

88% of the Maltese population speaks English, yet this category is a red link. I reckon it might be worth looking through their newspapers or whatever you do to find some of their particular words. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 06:34, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

OK, added some. I will leave it up to you to judge whether some of these should actually be called "English" words. DTLHS (talk) 16:44, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Seems like a good start. Thanks! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 16:49, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs

Hello. I saw you were creating a lot of templates and categories and I thought you could maybe help me with something. This category was created recently which is a good start, but I have long wanted to have something similar to Category:Hindi_phrasal_verbs, where the light verb constructions are sorted by the verbal element. I have no idea how to do this though, except for creating a new category for each light verb manually and placing links under every light verb construction, which doesn't seem like a good solution. Can you look at this, if it's not too much of an effort? There is an (incomplete) list of verbs that are used in such constructions here. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

Maybe. What's an example of a construction and categorization that you would want? Can you create a few by hand to start with so I can get a better idea? DTLHS (talk) 22:49, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

I'll do so. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 22:57, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

So my idea is that all verbs in Category:Azerbaijani_compound_verbs will be co-subcategorized under a category for every verbal element that is there. Thus, anadan olmaq and nail olmaq will be in Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs with olmaq, the very many etmək-verbs in Category:Azerbaijani compound verbs with etmək and so on. I see that currently, all Hindi phrasal verbs have a category link placed there manually, whereas the corresponding Persian verbs do not, it seems to be built into the conjugation template. What do you think? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 23:35, 4 December 2018 (UTC)

OK, I made the template Template:az-verb-light (please move it to a different title if you don't like the name). It looks for the last element of the verb (split by spaces) to categorize. The categorization can be overridden with the "c" parameter. DTLHS (talk) 00:42, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

That is so cool, thank you very much! I guess it takes some time for the implementation to take place? Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:08, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean by implementation, I'm not going to add it to any entries. DTLHS (talk) 01:20, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

I figured it out! I thought was a modification of the main conjugation template rather than a new head template. I'll do it, thanks again Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 01:28, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Hello. For the most part, the template works perfectly and the way I intended. Do you have an idea why the entries in Category:Azerbaijani_compound_verbs_with_etmək don't get the category link, though? The other entries do get it Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:03, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Probably cached. DTLHS (talk) 18:07, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Everything works now. Allahverdi Verdizade (talk) 18:09, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

Images

I added two images to "abandon" fro wikimedia commons and they were removed. Why? Hjh1313 (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)hjh1313

The images were not useful or appropriate for a serious dictionary. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 02:23, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Furthermore you inserted them in the middle of a block of definitions which is not an appropriate place. DTLHS (talk) 16:06, 7 December 2018 (UTC)

Adding images adds clarity to a definition. Meaning is in the environment and context in which a word is used. Images specify the environment and context much better than simply words. Is this simply your opinion or do you make final judgements for Wiktionary? Today's technology allows for serious dictioanries to be more than words. Hjh1313 (talk) 20:59, 10 November 2018 (UTC)hjh1313

Replacement of uses of {{seeSynonyms}}

Hello! Following a discussion at "Wiktionary:Requests for deletion/Others#Template:seeSynonyms", that template has been deleted. Could you please do a bot run to replace uses of this template? I haven't examined many examples of how the template has been used, but the basic one would be:

• {{seeSynonyms|hate|sense=1}} → ''See'' [[Thesaurus:hate]]

I'm not sure how sophisticated the replacements can be. For example, if {{seeSynonyms}} appears after a list of other synonyms, it would be preferable to use see also instead of See, like this:

• ABC, DEF, GHI; {{seeSynonyms|JKL}} → ABC, DEF, GHI; ''see also'' [[Thesaurus:JLK]]

But if that proves too complicated, I think the basic replacement would be sufficient for now. Thanks in advance. — SGconlaw (talk) 16:38, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

I'm not going to replace a template with bare text. I'm either deleting the line entirely or not at all. DTLHS (talk) 22:40, 9 December 2018 (UTC)

Er, why? That was apparently the result of the discussion: that the template was unnecessary and should just be replaced by text. (Note that I was not involved in the discussion; I only closed it.) — SGconlaw (talk) 01:35, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Why would we delete it if we're replacing its uses with the exact same thing, but written out without the benefit of a template? That is incredibly pointless. DTLHS (talk) 03:11, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

*Shrug* As I said, I didn't take part in the discussion. OK, no worries. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:24, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't think you understand what Dan Polansky's intent is. "The consensus is for deletion, not for keeping and changing the text." That means the whole thing should be deleted, not just the template. DTLHS (talk) 03:29, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

I don't think so. Dan was referring to the fact that I had retained the template but merely shortened the text in the template, which was originally "For semantic relationships of this sense, see XYZ in the Thesaurus". See the following remarks by people who took part in the discussion – Dan: "I think it better to reference the thesaurus without a template, using a short phrase like "See also Thesaurus:cat""; AdamBMorgan: "I have no objection to deleting the template and replacing it with a short phrase.". — SGconlaw (talk) 03:46, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

You are correct, my bad. DTLHS (talk) 03:50, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

No worries. Would you like to do the replacement? If not, no worries at all. I'll see if another bot operator would like to assist. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:53, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Absolutely not, there is no reason for it to be deleted. DTLHS (talk) 03:54, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Oh, I just saw your comment on the discussion page. OK, let's see how this plays out. Thanks. — SGconlaw (talk) 03:55, 10 December 2018 (UTC)

Greek verb cats

Thanks for creating some conjugation cats for some Greek verbs - at present Greek verbs fall into 2 groups - those using olf conjugation templates and those using new ones. So there are the categorisation of the paradigms also falls into 2 groups. This dichotomy will eventually be sorted out when verbs have been transferred from the 'old' to the 'new' templates. — Saltmarsh. 15:19, 11 December 2018 (UTC)

Page protection request for {{lang}}

This page was recently vandalised, as it's fairly key to a lot of pages of Wiktionary, I would like to request that unless there's an active need for it to be widely edited, that it is put under page protection. ShakespeareFan00 (talk) 16:48, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

DTLHS partially protected it, but it's used by other templates and most non-admins won't understand the consequences of editing it, so I made it admin-and-template-editor only. Chuck Entz (talk) 18:41, 25 December 2018 (UTC)

EWDC discussion

Hello! I'm pondering doing EWDC again. See User talk:Equinox/EWDC. Equinox ◑ 04:00, 31 December 2018 (UTC)

remove {rfc-auto}?

Your bot seems to accomplish everything that needs to be done to remove {{rfc-auto}}, but is not removing the template. Is that something you are intentionally leaving behind, or just an oversight? - TheDaveRoss 18:14, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't remember. I probably just didn't feel like dealing with it. It seems utterly useless now, I'll orphan and delete it. DTLHS (talk) 19:02, 2 January 2019 (UTC)

@SemperBlotto I think SemperBlotto's page-from-file loads still add language sections out of order and tag the pages with that template, might want to make sure he is on the same page. - TheDaveRoss 15:45, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

My bot hasn't run in ages - it stopped working after some wiki software update and I haven't bothered to figure out how to fix it. SemperBlotto (talk) 15:49, 18 January 2019 (UTC)

re excess

I figure I should move a bunch to citations:cow-handed but I'm not sure which ones. EphFan (talk) 16:45, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

It is entirely subjective, but whichever you feel best exemplify the word, or are notable in some other way, should probably stay on the main page. DTLHS (talk) 16:47, 16 January 2019 (UTC)

Elevatorgate

Why did you back out my edit, which was merely adding another cite? Kiwima (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't think I did, see page history. DTLHS (talk) 21:37, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

It was from looking at the page history that I knew to direct this message to you. Unless there is someone else using your identity. Kiwima (talk) 22:00, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. I made one edit to the page: diff. I did not remove any content you added. DTLHS (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

OK, this is just weird - it looks like your edit did exactly what my edit did. I am truly perplexed. Kiwima (talk) 22:30, 25 January 2019 (UTC)

{{es-adj}} and {{es-verb}}

Can you rewire these the way you did es-noun? I've been meaning to ask you after your excellent work on es-noun. I see you already have testcases for adjectives ready to go. Ultimateria (talk) 08:18, 10 February 2019 (UTC)

OK, maybe some time in the next few months. DTLHS (talk) 03:44, 11 February 2019 (UTC)

Ablendan

Abeodan and Ablendan are not Old English given names, so yes, your reverting of my edit removing them was in error. Sigurd Dragon Slayer (talk) 04:55, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

That's nice, there's an RFV discussion you are free to comment on. DTLHS (talk) 04:58, 22 February 2019 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/eswikipedia again

Hi D. We've been pretty busy over at es.wikipedia correcting lots of spelling mistakes. And I've been busy creating lots of awesome missing Spanish entries, so it'd be nice to rerun the User:DTLHS/eswikipedia pages some time soon - really, no rush at all. And if this time you can, if possible, a) ignore anything found in templates, in URLs and other things that can be easily recognised at not-Spanish-words; b) in the search bit, link to the term in inverted commas (https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=%22peliculas%22&title=Especial%3ABuscar&fulltext=1 instead of https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?search=peliculas&title=Especial%3ABuscar&fulltext=1 ) c) put some kind of rainbow colours on the page and make it spin. --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 23:33, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

I've seen you contributing to [1]- maybe you should ask Beland if their code can easily be adapted to the Spanish Wikipedia. I'll update my page in the mean time but I probably won't be doing any fancy template filtering. DTLHS (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2019 (UTC)

Yes, I have found in Moss a very stimulating and worthwhile project. Decent pool of participators, cross-wiki work, notable progress, and, possibly most importantly, not too much on the list at any given time. In short, I love Beland (but am too shy to tell them). --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 11:10, 26 February 2019 (UTC)

Colvulse

I see that you reverted my edit without explanation. Well check https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/convulse. This indeed is an english word as well. phatom87 (talk) 23:02, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

You should probably look more carefully at what you added. DTLHS (talk) 23:05, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

@Phatom87: Perhaps it should be better put as an English misspelling? I think I've seen it before, but I'll have to look to be sure. -/ut͡ʃxʎørnɛja ☭/ ^{(탁ᷞ, кон-, ឯឌឹត្ស, 𐎛𐎓𐎄𐎛𐎚𐎒)}. 23:09, 2 March 2019 (UTC).

Tracking

Hi Mr. LHS. I've just told off Mr Wing for deleting a template that NadandoBot uses on the Spanish tracking pages. Your input would most likely be helpful in said discussion. --Wonderfool early February 2019 (talk) 12:20, 7 March 2019 (UTC)

{{pt-adj}}

Can you make a list of transclusions that don't use |1= and |2=? Ultimateria (talk) 22:12, 19 March 2019 (UTC)

@Ultimateria User:DTLHS/cleanup/pt adj missing parameters DTLHS (talk) 05:12, 22 March 2019 (UTC)

Template:R:nmn:Traill1994

Could you please replace the "raw" references to A ǃXóõ Dictionary (an example is ʘôõ ǁnṵ́ã) with this reference template? They should only be in ǃXóõ entries. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 21:42, 3 April 2019 (UTC)

Done. DTLHS (talk) 01:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

It doesn't seem to have been changed in the example entry I linked to. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 04:43, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

OK, got that one too. DTLHS (talk) 05:26, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much! n̄ʻn̄ is the only other one I found that didn't get changed; not sure why. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:29, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I was looking for exact matches but there's a bunch of different formats that have been used. I'll try any line that contains "A ǃXóõ Dictionary". DTLHS (talk) 05:30, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

I think it's fine now. Not sure it's worth changing the uses in the appendices, as they reference specific pages. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:32, 4 April 2019 (UTC)

Another request: there seem to be a bunch of Italian proper nouns using {{g}} in the headword line that could be fixed pretty easily. See this edit for an example of what needs to be done, if you're interested. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:57, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Yet another list

Can you generate a list of translations with unrecognized scripts (I only mean in |sc=) for the language code? It might be a semi-regular cleanup; just today I found Knda for Hindi, Cyrl for Tagalog, Beng for Japanese, and others. I guess the parameter could be removed by bot, but it might be a good idea to manually check the entries for other errors. Ultimateria (talk) 00:21, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

Sure. DTLHS (talk) 07:01, 13 April 2019 (UTC)

@Ultimateria User:DTLHS/cleanup/unrecognized scripts DTLHS (talk) 02:59, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

cawikipedia

Hey. Can you make User:DTLHS/cawikipedia, which obvs would be the Catalan version of User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? It's a present for Ultimateria's 136th month wiki-anniversary. --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:45, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Aw, you should't have! I can't believe I've been an admin almost 10 years... Ultimateria (talk) 20:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I was gonna surprise you for the 10 years, guapo, but couldn't wait. --I learned some phrases (talk) 21:00, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

I'm touched ;). But the kind of list I'd most like is User:DTLHS/missing dutch french entries but for Catalan lemmas from ca.wikt. Ultimateria (talk) 21:06, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

OK, first one done, I'll see about the other later. DTLHS (talk) 05:21, 18 April 2019 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Todo/mismatched translation codes

Another thing, is Wiktionary:Todo/mismatched translation codes still useful or has it been superseded by another page? If the latter is true, it should be deleted --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:47, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/cleanup/mismatched translation codes DTLHS (talk) 20:54, 16 April 2019 (UTC)

Unbalance by bot

This bot edit actually unbalanced the table. – gpvos (talk) 17:09, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

We should probably get rid of that whole Chinese structure (and other language families which get grouped in the same way). Most language families are not grouped in that way. - TheDaveRoss 17:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Yes, well if we actually look at the number of lines in each column, it went from 19/20 to 20/19. Unfortunately not all lines are the same height so doing naive "balancing" with a program will sometimes produce unoptimal results. DTLHS (talk) 17:52, 23 April 2019 (UTC)

Placement of {{topics}}

Perhaps your bot should place {{topics}} templates below "Anagrams" sections, where categories usually appear? See this edit. — SGconlaw (talk) 04:44, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Probably... I have been avoiding dealing with this template because it sometimes gets put in places like definition lines where it should not be moved. DTLHS (talk) 04:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

Should it ever be used in definition lines?! I don't see why. I wondered whether to just replace it with "[[Category:]]" but I don't think there's consensus for such a move. In any case, just ensuring that it remains in the same position as category lines would be desirable, in my view. Thanks. — SGconlaw (talk) 06:32, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

@Sgconlaw: User:Rua does that, I think. Canonicalization (talk) 12:27, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

I place categories next to the sense for which they are relevant, just like context labels. —Rua (mew) 12:28, 6 July 2019 (UTC)

On a slightly related note, FYI: Wiktionary:Votes/2017-05/Templatizing topical categories in the mainspace and Wiktionary:Votes/2017-07/Templatizing topical categories in the mainspace 2. --Dan Polansky (talk) 09:28, 7 July 2019 (UTC)

Anagrams of translation subpages

NadandoBot added an anagram on god/translations. Doesn't seem very useful to me. — Eru·tuon 20:30, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

I will exclude those pages in the future. DTLHS (talk) 20:33, 17 May 2019 (UTC)

eswikipedia

Hey D. Can we get another update on User:DTLHS/eswikipedia, please? Again, some excellent progress by a handful of tireless editors has brought about the elimination of a lot of spellos over there. You know hwo I feel about spelling mistakes... --I learned some phrases (talk) 20:20, 30 May 2019 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 22:36, 1 June 2019 (UTC)

Tracking templates

Hi D. When using this page to make this page, I get the error message "Lua error in Module:quote at line 170: Only one of date= or year= should be specified". As is well-documented, I don't do templates, categories, or modules anymore as they got overcomplicated. I reckon this error message comes up because of Template:quote-journal, perhaps that template assumes that an entry must have a year. Or, alternatively, you could stop including "|year=" when making new Tracking pages like this one. Either way, I'm gonna crack on making entries and will leave any pages with module errors for now. --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 19:12, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Fixed. Don't make pages with errors or I'll ban you. DTLHS (talk) 19:21, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. I can never guarantee 100% error-free pages. Nobody can, really. Except maybe Chuck... --Gibraltar Rocks (talk) 23:06, 28 July 2019 (UTC)

Thnak yu for fnaly recongizing my ovious infaillability. Chuck Entz (talk) 03:03, 29 July 2019 (UTC)

arbërisht (latin script) / αρbε̰ρίσ̈τ (greek script)

You suggested that my entry for my Albanian "αρbε̰ρίσ̈τ" entry to be cleaned up. May I ask why? If you would your research, then you would know that Latin, Greek (back then, also Elbasan and Arabic) script are used to write in Albanian. As 'Arvanitika' (which is the greek term for "Arbërisht" = hence "Old Albanian") was and is still written with greek letters by Arbëreshë ppl that live in Greece. Albanians and Arbëreshë (living in Italy) use the latin script. Doesn't change the fact that Albanian is also written with greek letters. IMIPER (talk) 21:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)

Japanese soft-redirect entries and categories

I saw your recent edits at バラす and バレる. My understanding is that soft-redirect entries are minimal, with no categories or other details -- those are kept on the lemma page.

Looping in the creator of {{ja-see}}: @Dine2016, when I edited バラす and バレる, I tried to emulate your usage of {{ja-see}}, as in your edits at ヒンシュクを買う and ひんしゅくを買う. 1) Do the バラす and バレる pages use {{ja-see}} in accordance with your use case as you've designed that template? And 2) do you have any opinions or feedback regarding DTLHS's request for categories to be added to these soft-redirect entries? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 21:51, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

The template is used in many entries and most of them have categories, so I assume something is wrong when I see it used on an uncategorized page (Special:UncategorizedPages). DTLHS (talk) 21:52, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

@Eirikr: Hi. I'm sorry for the confusion caused by this template. The template only checks {{ja-kanjitab}} and headword templates for alternative spellings. In this case, バラす was in the alternative forms section of ばらす, so {{ja-see}} didn't see it as an alternative spelling of ばらす and did not copy any definition or category. When I wrote that template, I assumed that spoken variants would be put in the alternative forms section, while written variants would be put in {{ja-spellings}} (now {{ja-kanjitab}}) or headword templates. --Dine2016 (talk) 02:01, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

• Aha, thank your for that explanation! For terms without kanji spellings, there won't be a {{ja-kanjitab}} template, naturally enough.  :) Thank you too for the edits to バラす and バレる to fix the issue! ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 03:39, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Hello again, re: edits like at しの, the targeted entries haven't been built out yet, so the {{ja-see}} call doesn't have anything to pull in. The しの page itself should get categories as soon as the targeted entries are created / expanded. I'm not sure there's much value in adding {{attention}}, especially since that manual work entails later manual work to remove...? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 18:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

It clogs up Special:UncategorizedPages. I will continue to add attention flags as long as there are no categories. DTLHS (talk) 18:25, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Ah, interesting. Good to know. Thanks for the explanation! ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 21:15, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Is there a generic category it could add even if it can't find the target page? DTLHS (talk) 21:17, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Hmm, dunno. We seem to have lost the main maintainer of the template (@Nyarukoseijin), further complicating things... ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 21:23, 19 June 2020 (UTC)

Invisible

Thank you very much for moving συνέτριψεv to συνέτριψεν and συνέθλιψεv to συνέθλιψεν. I knew there was something wrong, but I still do not know what it was, giving a Category:Ancient Greek terms spelled with V. I have written them again and again -without any v-, and would always get it wrong. Is there something I should be careful about in the future? Thank you sarri.greek (talk) 16:45, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

It's just the Greek nu character vs Latin v. It's not a big deal if you get it wrong once in a while. DTLHS (talk) 16:50, 22 August 2019 (UTC)

Re: diff

User:Dine2016 has done some really wonderful stuff with {{ja-see}}. It looks like this template does not support historical kanji forms, however, which is why the cats from the targeted 天道虫 page are not also being pulled over to 天道蟲. Please see Talk:天道蟲 for more. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │^{Tala við mig} 21:01, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

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Another list

Hello again. Can you make a list of Galician, Italian, Portuguese, and Spanish pages ending in mente but not in Category:Italian words suffixed with -mente et al? Also, Catalan, French, and Occitan words ending in ment? Excluding the ~100 Catalan and French entries in part of speech subcategories. Ultimateria (talk) 16:00, 13 September 2019 (UTC)

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Suggestion: Anagrams for Swedish?

Hey, since your bot User:NadandoBot already so meritoriously updates anagrams for Finnish (thanks for that!), would it be possible to get anagrams for Swedish as well? Swedish has the same alphabet as Finnish, albeit with different letter frequencies (for example, "c" is used often in Swedish before "k", while in Finnish "c" is not used almost at all) so I'd guess adding Swedish to the supported languages wouldn't be too hard? 37.117.212.142 09:13, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

It's easy to add, I just need to know if there are any special rules I should be aware of regarding the orthography. DTLHS (talk) 16:10, 7 October 2019 (UTC)

User:NadandoBot patrolling Special:WantedCategories

Hi. I've made various changes to the request categories that your bot might want to be aware of. In particular, {{auto cat}} now supports categories of these forms:

• Category:Requests for quotation/SOURCE
• Category:Requests for date/SOURCE
• Category:Requests for inflections in LANG entries
• Category:Requests for inflections in LANG POS entries
• Category:Requests for inflections of POSs by language
• Category:Requests for gender in LANG entries
• Category:Requests for gender in LANG POS entries
• Category:Requests for gender of POSs by language
• Category:Requests for accents in LANG entries
• Category:Requests for accents in LANG POS entries
• Category:Requests for accents of POSs by language
• Category:Requests for tone in LANG entries
• Category:Requests for tone in LANG POS entries
• Category:Requests for tone of POSs by language
• Category:Requests for aspect in LANG entries
• Category:Requests for aspect in LANG POS entries
• Category:Requests for aspect of POSs by language

In these categories, SOURCE, LANG and POS are arbitrary with the current restriction that POS matches the regex [a-z]+.

Benwing2 (talk) 05:03, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, it would be great if there were a way to test if a category name was usable by {{auto cat}} through some API call. DTLHS (talk) 05:33, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Perhaps just generate a call to {{auto cat}} and see if an error occurs? Also check if the category is empty, because there are several categories with old names that I emptied. Benwing2 (talk) 14:13, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

The module doesn't give any error with a bad title, it just outputs "topic cat" ({{User:DTLHS/Template:test|abcde}}). DTLHS (talk) 16:08, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

I tried calling {{auto cat}} on various pages. If I call it e.g. on Category:Russian long possessive adjectives (using site.expand_text(u"{{auto cat}}")), I get this (see source for exact text):

[[Category:Categories with invalid label]]<div class="noprint maintenance-box maintenance-box-red" style="background:#FFE7DD; width:90%; margin: 0.75em auto; border:1px dashed #884444; padding: 0.25em; ">
{| 
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|50px]]
! style="text-align: left;" | The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors.
|-
| The label given to the <code>{{[[Template:poscatboiler|poscatboiler]]}}</code> template is not valid. You may have mistyped it, or it simply has not been created yet. To add a new label, please consult the documentation of the template.
|}</div>

Similarly if I call it on Category:Language code missing, I get this:

[[Category:topic cat]][[Category:Categories with invalid label]]<div class="noprint maintenance-box maintenance-box-red" style="background:#FFE7DD; width:90%; margin: 0.75em auto; border:1px dashed #884444; padding: 0.25em; ">
{| 
| rowspan="2" | [[File:Ambox warning pn.svg|50px]]
! style="text-align: left;" | The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors.
|-
| The label given to the <code>{{[[Template:topic cat|topic cat]]}}</code> template is not valid. You may have mistyped it, or it simply has not been created yet. To add a new label, please consult the documentation of the template.
|}</div>

Other pages may give other errors but they should be of a similar format; you could check for the presence of [[Category:Categories with invalid label]] in the output, or The automatically-generated contents of this category has errors. or similar.

Benwing2 (talk) 17:58, 27 October 2019 (UTC)

Blank citation pages.

If one should not create blank citation pages what should they do if they would like to create a citation page but they have no current citations to offer?

In my view, if you create a blank citation pager others can then come and add citations as needed. — This unsigned comment was added by Procode200 (talk • contribs) at 19:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC).

Others can add citations regardless of whether the citation page is created. Don't create blank pages or you will be blocked. DTLHS (talk) 19:02, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Regarding Old High German *ostar

Hello there,

I'm just curious about your entry "Reconstruction:Old High German/ostar". Where did you get the Middle High German ōster to mean the goddess?

Thank you.

That's your entry that I moved to the correct title. Why are you asking me where I got the information? DTLHS (talk) 23:18, 12 November 2019 (UTC)

List

Can you make a list of entries using both {{it-noun|m}} and {{it-noun|f}}? Ultimateria (talk) 18:10, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Like this? DTLHS (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2019 (UTC)

Yes! I guess I didn't realize we could get that exact in searches. Reading w:Help:Searching now. Ultimateria (talk) 16:55, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

wine cave

Hi, please put back wine cave. If you want to delete it put is up for discussion and I will abide by the consensus. You can leave your response on my talk page. Thank you TFSA (talk) 12:03, 24 December 2019 (UTC)

Portuguese verb forms

Could you use your bot to make them? Ultimateria (talk) 20:05, 26 December 2019 (UTC)

OK. I have done some test pages. If everything seems fine you may create a page to request entries for the bot to process. DTLHS (talk) 04:16, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

Thanks, I've created User:DTLHS/portuguese bot requests with the verbs I came across in the Wikisource wordlist. Can you also add the code for redlink detection to Module:pt-conj? Ultimateria (talk) 16:44, 27 December 2019 (UTC)

auto loan

Hi, DTLHS. I would ask you to reconsider undoing your reversion of the "auto loan" page, as "auto loan" is as much a STANDARD TERM in finance as are "home loan" or "student loan". If you should doubt me at all, just try "Googling" the words "auto loan", and that should verify my assertion.

As you wish. DTLHS (talk) 20:58, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

Hey, thanks man! Since the other two are covered, I thought that "auto loan" should be as well.

Spanish tracking

Hey. Just for fun, can you produce some fresh year-2020 Spanish tracking pages? None of the newspapers riddled with spellos or Catalan tho, please (El Periódico, El País). And if you wanna de-redlinkify these guys too, awesome. --Yesyesandmaybe (talk) 23:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)

OK, have fun. DTLHS (talk) 04:57, 9 January 2020 (UTC)

found object/found art

DTLHS—there is no such thing as found art—aside from art which has been found. If you are walking down the street and you find a work of art—that is found art. But that is not what our term refers to. Our term "found object" is defined by such sources as the Tate. The Tate refers to it as an "art term". The Tate defines it as follows: "A found object is a natural or man-made object, or fragment of an object, that is found (or sometimes bought) by an artist and kept because of some intrinsic interest the artist sees in it". Notice the absence of any reference to "found art". Can we find the phrase "found art" in Google Books searches? Of course. But no good quality source, such as the Tate, is going to construe a "found object" as "found art". It is an understandable error but there is no reason we should perpetuate that error. Bus stop (talk) 19:24, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Fine, I have described the relationship as holonymy instead. DTLHS (talk) 21:54, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

DTLHS—how is there a "relationship" of "holonymy"? Please explain. Bus stop (talk) 22:59, 9 February 2020 (UTC)

Found art is composed of found objects. DTLHS (talk) 15:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Why revert? Can you please explain? You are saying "Found art is composed of found objects." What leads you to the belief that "Found art is composed of found objects"? Bus stop (talk) 15:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I really don't think any more explanation is necessary. DTLHS (talk) 16:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Why are you removing my attempts to engage in dialogue with you? Bus stop (talk) 16:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

DTLHS doesn't really need to explain, because you have already gotten a full explanation on Equinox's talk page and simply ignored its content. You don't seem interested in dialogue, but merely in being right, and that is a waste of our time. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 16:52, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Metaknowledge—you are welcome to weigh into this discussion. The topic involves the two terms—"found object" and "found art". Bus stop (talk) 17:04, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

DTLHS—from where do you derive that "Found art is composed of found objects"? I do not believe that one term is a holonym of the other. Do you think the Merriam-Webster website has an entry for "found art"? It is an online dictionary too. Its page for "found art" says that "The word you've entered isn't in the dictionary." But for "found object" there are a dozen attestations, some scholarly, and an extensive explanation of the meaning and origin of the term. The term is also a direct translation of the French term originally and closely associated with the early 20th century artist Marcel Duchamp. Really what you are doing is making Wiktionary look stupid by elevating a misnomer to a virtually equivalent term. Why would one term be considered a holonym of the other? One is the standard term. The other is at best a variation, and more than likely it can be chalked up to little more than an "error", not a "holonym". Bus stop (talk) 17:47, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

You can nominate found art for deletion if you have that much of a problem with it. Don't post on my talk page again. DTLHS (talk) 17:59, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

I have no inclination to delete the found art entry. I have not said anything about the found art entry. The only entry I am questioning is the found object entry. It is conceivable that a reader could search for "found art" so I don't advocate for that entry's deletion. I've initiated this discussion. I hope you will weigh in there. Bus stop (talk) 18:53, 11 February 2020 (UTC)

Wiktionary:Todo/former name of

Hey

Can you run an update of Wiktionary:Todo/former name of?

I think you can just search for it: [2]. DTLHS (talk) 01:35, 15 February 2020 (UTC)

Indices

IIRC, you used to use your bot to update indices by language. Is there a reason that nobody updates those any more, and would you be interested in doing it? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 03:16, 16 February 2020 (UTC)

I guess I could start redoing them. I'll see when I get the time. DTLHS (talk) 05:04, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

Thanks. FWIW, there's some opposition to doing it for non-mainspace languages, but I haven't seen any such opposition for the idea of indices in general, despite their general state of disrepair. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:18, 17 February 2020 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/tracking/La Prensa/2016

Hey. User:DTLHS/tracking/La Prensa/2016 can be deleted - only blue links and crap remains --Vitoscots (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

• And User:DTLHS/tracking/ABC Color/20161025 while you're at it --Vitoscots (talk) 19:18, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
• All of that means that User:DTLHS/tracking/El Pais/2016-17 is the only remaining Tracking page from 2016. If it takes 3.5 years to do all of a year's worth of newspapers, I predict the Spanish language in WT will be complete by 2034. Let's hope we'll both be around to celebrate. --Vitoscots (talk) 19:21, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
• One more thing. If you can update User:DTLHS/tracking/mostwanted/es, it would be awesome. --Vitoscots (talk) 19:30, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 16:29, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

• And User:DTLHS/mostwantedspanish is no longer useful. You can delete that too if you wish --Vitoscots (talk) 16:19, 10 April 2020 (UTC)

Math tags

Which is the best way to see the math tags <math> </math> of math markup?. You can find it in a lot of articles in Wikipedia and other places and are not easy to find how to used it, what they are, what are math tags and so on.--BoldLuis (talk) 16:52, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

A math tag is a tag for math. It doesn't need a dictionary entry. DTLHS (talk) 16:57, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Nowadays is much complicated to find and understand what <math> </math> are and mean: tags in math markup that use TeX. --BoldLuis (talk) 17:21, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

@Boldluis: you can consult w:Help:Displaying a formula. — SGconlaw (talk) 18:01, 17 April 2020 (UTC)

Plakat

Hi, DTLHS. I would ask you to reconsider undoing your reversion of the plakat page. If you should doubt me at all, just try to search the word and that should verify my assertion. --Xbypass (talk) 13:27, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

[3] DTLHS (talk) 15:43, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Eswikipedia update

Hi there. The last User:DTLHS/eswikipedia update was one year ago. Since then, many es.wikipedians have been eating away at the misspellings and the en.wiktionarians have been blueifying lots of the red links. An update would be most useful, if you wouldn't mind. --Huckerby980 (talk) 22:59, 2 June 2020 (UTC)

Updated. DTLHS (talk) 03:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)

گانا

Hi in Punjabi, gāṇa can be written as both گانا (due to Urdu influence) and گاݨا (the proper way to write it in Shahmukhi Punjabi) Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 21:48, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

See my changes to the entry. DTLHS (talk) 21:57, 26 June 2020 (UTC)

That's fine thank you, I had planned to do something similar but wasn't sure how to implement it since I'm not too great with Wiktionary at the moment. Taimoorahmed11 (talk) 00:07, 27 June 2020 (UTC)

Hungarian layout corrections

Thank you for correcting the Hungarian layout problems. Is there a category that you are working from? How can I find Hungarian entries with incorrect layout? Panda10 (talk) 20:42, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

It's a program I wrote that isn't finished yet. I'll let you know once I have a final version and I'll post the list of errors on the wiki. DTLHS (talk) 20:46, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Thanks, that would be great. Panda10 (talk) 20:50, 4 July 2020 (UTC)

Old request

Hi DTLHS. I remember requesting a Hausa search from you (nouns with no diacritics on the plural), probably years ago, and I just noticed that I never finished the associated cleanup. (There might've been another request, too, but I'm not sure.) Unfortunately, you don't archive your talk page — would you mind digging it up for me? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:47, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

[4] and User:DTLHS/hausa plurals DTLHS (talk) 20:58, 13 July 2020 (UTC)

Thank you again! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:19, 15 July 2020 (UTC)

• And a new request: could you please convert all entries in CAT:Afar nouns to use {{aa-noun}}? Also, could you make a list if any of them end up trying to call parameters that the template doesn't support? Thank you! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 04:02, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

OK, list of invalid parameters:

[['amal', 'head|aa|noun|head=ámal|head2=amál|g=m|g2=f'], ['boolo', 'head|aa|noun|head=booló|g=f|diminutive|booloyta|f1alt=boolóyta'], ['labhaytu', 'head|aa|noun|head=labháytu|g=m|cat2=singulatives'], ['loynayto', 'head|aa|noun|head=loynaytó|g=f|masculine|loynaytu|f1alt=loynáytu'], ['loynaytu', 'head|aa|noun|head=loynáytu|g=m|feminine|loynayto|f1alt=loynaytó'], ['num', 'head|aa|noun|g=m|diminutive|numoyta|f1alt=numóyta'], ['olo', 'head|aa|noun|head=oló|g=f|diminutive|oloyta|f1alt=oloytá'], ['qari', 'head|aa|noun|head=qári|g=m|diminutive|qaroyta|f1alt=qaróyta']]

DTLHS (talk) 05:09, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

Awesome, thank you! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 05:16, 16 July 2020 (UTC)

• I just noticed a bug in MOD:ha-headword at sau. The first noun section generates the correct possessed form, but the second one (with the grave accent) does not. I guess the logic is treating au and àu differently, but it should be acting on the non-diacriticked form (the page title) rather than the second parameter when looking for diphthongs. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:07, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Fixed? DTLHS (talk) 20:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Based on rai, looks fixed to me. Thank you! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:29, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Ah, actually not fixed — it broke a bunch of other entries, e.g. omo (where the possessed form now fails to show the proper diacritics). The possessed form still needs to be based on the second parameter. (The only vowel diacritics we use are macron, grave, macron+grave, and circumflex, if that makes things simpler.) —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 20:58, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't really know what we're talking about here. Please add some more currently failing test cases to Module:ha-headword/testcases. DTLHS (talk) 21:21, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

If you go back to the original conversation (which you linked to at the beginning of this one), you'll see all the rules for generating the possessed form. I added a couple failing testcases, but I'm not sure I did so correctly. —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 21:35, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Unrelated, but another request for that module: could you please add a parameter f2 for a second feminine form? —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:41, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

Added and fixed your bug. DTLHS (talk) 21:34, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Thank you — all looks good! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 23:05, 18 August 2020 (UTC)

Hi DTLHS. I was wondering if you could run that same search for nouns with no diacritics on the plural that you did at User:DTLHS/hausa plurals. I just came across another one in the wild, so I think it's possible more crept in since you made that now-deketed list. Thanks! —Μετάknowledge^{discuss/deeds} 06:46, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

uba, rema, safi, lardi, kufai, ɗan, 'yar, makaranta DTLHS (talk) 16:26, 27 July 2021 (UTC)

Rollback from IMIPER

IMIPER is my old account (forgot password, I mentioned that in the entry). I don't use the old account anymore bc - as mentioned before - I don't know the password.SKA-KSI (talk) 00:41, 27 July 2020 (UTC)

enwikisource

Hey. Can you make User:DTLHS/enwikisource like you did for User:DTLHS/eswikipedia? I remember you already making the list, but it was deleted for some reason, probably because it was crap. Anyway, can you generate it again? --Quotedude56 (talk) 15:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

I don't think it's a worthwhile list to make- it's mostly just misspellings and crap, as you say. DTLHS (talk) 17:01, 28 August 2020 (UTC)

Gontar

Hello, I wonder why you objected to including the Ukrainian sense of Gontar along with the Galician in wiktionary, back in April, if this was you. It seems very common in wiktionary to include multiple instances of a given phoneme around the world. Although it is pronounced "Hontar" in Ukraine, the name is pronounced Gontar in Russia and Poland, and English speakers also refer to Ukrainian Hontars as "Gontar." The majority of people surnamed Gontar also live in Ukraine (around 3500). There is ample scholarly documnentation for the view that Ukrainian Hontar/Gontar derives from hont, "shingle." There is no documentation for the following, but I theorize that it also may further derive from Proto-Indo-European ko*, "to whet, sharpen," from which we get English hone."Cdg1072 (talk) 15:51, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Ukrainian is spelled using the Cyrillic alphabet. All entries need to use that script. DTLHS (talk) 15:53, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Edit brit - sceptic

Comment I put a link there to provide a quick way to see my page, which provides an alternative but similarly defined use of the core word. ChefBear01 (talk) 01:42, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

In this case the proper place for such a link is in a "Derived terms" section. I have added it so you can see. DTLHS (talk) 01:49, 18 September 2020 (UTC)

Java Beauty

I undid several of his edits, moves, creations, etc. but I'm over it. Thanks for blocking. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 23:06, 26 September 2020 (UTC)

bijouterie

Hi, you labelled bijouterie as "obsolete", but it is not obsolete, at least not in the UK, where it is in current use e.g. in the antiques trade and auction business. I am not sure about the status of the spelling bijoutry in the UK, but it strikes me as altogether a rarer spelling (and Ngrams agrees, though some of the hits may be in different senses or specifically French contexts), so I am not really in favour of "bijouterie" being defined as "Alternative form of bijoutry". I would see it the other way around, if anything. Mihia (talk) 12:01, 21 November 2020 (UTC)

Go for it. DTLHS (talk) 01:35, 23 November 2020 (UTC)

OK, thanks, as you have no objections I have done that. Mihia (talk) 15:05, 5 December 2020 (UTC)

word tracking and quotes

Hi DTLHS. Happy New Year. Would you like all the quotes in your list to be used in the new entries? For the last one I did, I just chose one when I created the entry. — Dentonius 08:42, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

No, you can use however many you like. DTLHS (talk) 17:17, 2 January 2021 (UTC)

brackets on at dickkopf

Hi. What do the "brackets=on" bit mean at dickkopf? I thought it was a tyop at first. Jonely Mash (talk) 00:08, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

It means I didn't really feel like that example was using it as a noun or English word. DTLHS (talk) 00:11, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Sounds like a "crappy quote" to me. I be'ed bold and deleted it Jonely Mash (talk) 00:48, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

It was to show the first coining of the word. DTLHS (talk) 00:50, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

Yeah, I see. It looks really lame though - can you imagine a casual reader coming to that page and thinking "aah, square brackets, that must be first usage"? MM0898 (talk) 22:27, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

For clarity, in addition to the brackets, I suggest pointing out in the etymology that is the first use of the word, and/or adding a comment using the |footer= parameter. — SGconlaw (talk) 04:36, 9 February 2021 (UTC)

converting quotes to quote-book

Edits like this one were clearly awesome. Any plans on getting your bot to run those edits again? Forever in your debt (talk) 21:43, 5 February 2021 (UTC)

It is a semi manual process where I review every edit. Probably I will run it again but it is in no way automatic. DTLHS (talk) 17:27, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

User:DTLHS/word tracking/es/Spanish Wikisource/frequency/1

It would be wise to get rid of all the links with a long s from these pages. MM0898 (talk) 17:15, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Template:quoted term

I can't see that Template:quoted term does anything. The template is supposed to show a lavenderblush background, which I assume is meant to be pretty, but there's nothing visible on my recent page bullaranga. I'd expect to see this template emboldening the quoted term, at least. MM0898 (talk) 22:00, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Do you see it now? DTLHS (talk) 22:03, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

It's so light, hardly seems worth it. Why not just bold the damn thing? MM0898 (talk) 22:07, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

OK. Well the style can be changed in the future, unlike with manual bolding. DTLHS (talk) 22:10, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

This isn't really connected to anything, but do we have a way to put flashing stars around text? I feel I could totally abuse it and really annoy other Wiktionarians with it. MM0898 (talk) 22:25, 8 February 2021 (UTC)

Late answer, as I see the template only now: Firstly because originally I devised the background colour for Arabic quotes where boldening has no visible effect – and bold and italic texts is not very applicable to Arabic script even if we wanted, as well as to some other scripts. Secondarily, it came handy in quotes where the original text already has boldening, e.g. German unional, so one seeks a Wiktionary-specific highlight. Fay Freak (talk) 17:21, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

Spanish inflected forms

Hello! I am an editor from Chinese Wiktionary, and I just saw that your robot has created a lot of entries related to Catalan and Spanish inflected forms. May I invite you to create the same entries in Chinese Wiktionary? I am willing to help in localization and requesting bot permission. --TongcyDai (talk) 13:16, 24 February 2021 (UTC)

amop

Hi DTLHS. I was looking at some of the words you were tracking. How should I deal with a word like "amop" on this page. It's basically a pun and a non-existent word which the author invented. Of course, he meant "amok." Does our dictionary allow for the creation of such entries? — Dentonius 17:44, 27 February 2021 (UTC)

If you could find independent usage, probably. Definitely not from that single example alone. DTLHS (talk) 03:50, 1 March 2021 (UTC)

Bot adding two dividing lines

Hi, any reason why the bot is adding this extra line? Bogdan (talk) 22:45, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Just a bug from the space that was placed after it. DTLHS (talk) 22:58, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

eswikipedia 2021

Hi D. The Spanish Wikipedians and I have been very busy over the last year correcting minor errors. Your list at User:DTLHS/eswikipedia has been immensely helpful for finding common mistakes, and tens of thousands tyops have been corrected. On behalf of the Spanish Wikipedia community, I beseech thee to make an updated version of User:DTLHS/eswikipedia, so we can see if any have slipped through the net, so to speak. Your humble and eternally grateful servant Yellow is the colour (talk) 09:45, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

Gontar

Hi DTLHS, I understand Wiktionary does not include proper names, but Gontar in Russian derives from Ukrainian hontar, shingler. Would you consider including the Russian and Ukrainian instances of gontar as the word from which the surname derives in Ukrainian?

Has NadandoBot failed?

Hi, has NadandoBot suffered a catastrophic failure of some sort? Just wondering, since I've noticed that she's stopped adding anagrams to page entries. Whoop whoop pull up (talk) 19:11, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

No I am simply focusing on other things right now. DTLHS (talk) 19:12, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Ah, OK. Whoop whoop pull up (talk) 19:17, 20 June 2021 (UTC)

Anagrams vs. categories

Hi. Thanks for running your Anagrams script for Italian. I think you need to update your bot script for Anagrams to take into account categories that are inserted using {{C}}, {{topics}}, {{cln}}, and similar; see scorso, where your bot moved the Anagrams section below a {{C}} link that specifies a category. For reference, here's a function I have that separates off final separators as well as category specs of all sorts, so that anything added to the bottom goes above them:

def split_trailing_separator_and_categories(sectext):
  # Extract off trailing separator
  mm = re.match(r"^(.*?\n)(\n*--+\n*)$", sectext, re.S)
  if mm:
    secbody, sectail = mm.group(1), mm.group(2)
  else:
    secbody = sectext
    sectail = ""

  # Split off categories at end
  mm = re.match(r"^(.*?\n)(\n*((?:\[\[Category:[^\[\]\n]+\]\]|\{\{(?:c|C|cat|cln|topic|topics|categorize|catlangname|catlangcode)\|[^{}\n]*\}\})\n*)*)$",
      secbody, re.S)
  if mm:
    secbody, secbodytail = mm.group(1), mm.group(2)
    sectail = secbodytail + sectail

  return secbody, sectail

Benwing2 (talk) 19:29, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

I had an old list of templated categories as ['topics', 'top', 'catlangname', 'cln', 'c'] but I never added 'C' or those others. DTLHS (talk) 20:54, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Wrong entries by Special:Contributions/206.72.212.80

Hi,

Special:Contributions/206.72.212.80 makes wrong entries in Belarusian - missing headers and everything that's important. I fixed many but I don't feel like cleaning after them. Also, Близнюк is not right spelling in Belarusian, it doesn't have letter [[и]], Блізнюк would be correct. I have asked them to stop. (atitarev) --101.173.100.238 02:13, 11 August 2021 (UTC)

deleg

Hi, DTLHS. The entry deleg was categorized as Cañari, an extinct language from present-day Ecuador, but you changed it to Chono, an extinct language from present-day Chile. Do you remember why? Thanks in advance. Lin linao (talk) 20:17, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

No I don't remember. You should ask @-sche. DTLHS (talk) 21:02, 26 August 2021 (UTC)

English RFD for Latin phrase

Hi, I saw you created an RFD for pro pelle cutem at WT:RFDE, but the phrase only has a Latin definition. Unless I misunderstand, any RFD for the phrase should therefore be created at WT:RFDN. I don't know if you want to request its deletion as a Latin phrase, so I will leave it to you to move the RFD discussion to WT:RFDN or remove it. - excarnateSojourner (talk|contrib) 23:39, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Sorry, you're right. DTLHS (talk) 23:39, 21 October 2021 (UTC)

Reversion of correction of misleveled headers etc.

Hi, I've noticed that you seem to be going through a bunch of entries and changing L4 headers on part-of-speech sections to L3 ones. However, this makes it so that the part-of-speech sections are no longer subsections of their parent etymology sections (which use L3 headers), so I went along and put them back to L4 headers to fix this, as specified by WT:Entry layout#Etymology. Then you came along and reverted my fixes (to userboxen, blucket, Martian packet, and ypogegrammeni) without giving any explanation, which (in addition to re-breaking the section-header layouts) is, honestly, quite rude; when you're reverting someone else's edits, it's your responsibility to justify the reversion (except when reverting obvious vandalism). Additionally, you unilaterally changed the [syno/hyper]nym/coordinate-term layout for i386 from the original format (with the synonyms, hypernyms, and coordinates grouped together in a set of lists below the list of definitions) to a different format (with the 'nyms scattered throughout the list of definitions themselves), when both formats are equally permissible (per WT:Entry layout); since what you were trying to "fix" wasn't broken in the first place, I took the liberty of reverting your edit, only for you to, again, revert me without bothering to give any justification for doing so. Finally, your edit to Millhouses inserted a duplicate proper-noun section header; I removed the redundant header and consolidated the two definitions under one header, and you reverted my fixes, again with just the condescending "leave a message on my talk page if you want me to tell you why I reverted you" (paraphrased) edit summary. Could you please at least try not to revert people who are fixing things, and, when you revert someone, would it kill you to actually explain in your edit summary the reason for the revert, instead of forcing people to write you on your talk page to learn why you reverted them? Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧ Averted crashes} 00:51, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Parts of speech are subordinate to etymologies only when multiple etymologies are present. On Millhouses there are multiple headword line templates required (since one is a plural form). DTLHS (talk) 00:58, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Why would the number of different etymologies matter? Even when there's just one etymology, the parts of speech are still from that particular etymology; moving them up to L3 headers makes it look like they're being put alongside the etymology ("there's this etymology for this word [L3 heading], and, in addition to that, there're also a couple parts of speech for this word [other L3 headings]"), rather than under it ("there's this etymology [L3 heading], which gave rise to a couple different ways this word can be used [L4 headings]"). Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧ Averted crashes} 01:18, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Etymology is an optional header. Most entries have 0 or 1 etymology sections, therefore in most cases adding an etymology header or removing it should not change the level of the other elements of the page. DTLHS (talk) 01:25, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Because L3 is the default. When there are multiple Etymology sections, all the headers (not just the part of speech) get moved down a notch solely for the purpose of nesting. Also, the "condescending" message you're referring to is provided automatically by the rollback tool, which doesn't have an option for custom messages. It used to just say that the edit was rolled back, but the part about asking on the talk page was added to encourage people who made good-faith edits and deserved an explanation. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:32, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

"Also, the "condescending" message you're referring to is provided automatically by the rollback tool, which doesn't have an option for custom messages" - That seems like a bit of a design oversight on someone's part. Whoop whoop pull up ^{Bitching Betty ⚧ Averted crashes} 04:14, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Yoruba edits

Hi! I've seen that you've been making some edits to the Yoruba entries, thank you for your help! However, I've noticed that when you make your edits, you often remove the tonal marks on the words, which can be sometimes confusing as Yoruba is a tonal language. Could you put edit summaries for when you make these edits/explain why the edit has been made? Thank you so much! Oniwe (talk) 02:56, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Which tonal marks have I removed and on what pages? DTLHS (talk) 02:57, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I have added them back, but it was on ajọ̀ and Fágúnwà Oniwe (talk) 03:00, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

I didn't remove anything, I simply added a headword template. DTLHS (talk) 03:03, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

When you added the headword template, it removed the tonal mark. This is because the headword template links it with the title of the page, which doesn't have a tonal mark. So for the page " ajọ" if you add the headword template, it will revert the word from ajọ̀ to ajọ. If you add the headword template, you'll have to also add |(word with the tonal mark) so that you don't accidentally remove the tones. Oniwe (talk) 03:07, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

Adding {{head}} doesn't remove anything. I don't understand what you mean. Before my edits there was no tone information. DTLHS (talk) 03:10, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

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Hurry-furry merger

Hi. I saw you deleted the hurry-furry merger. I noticed its deletion because it ended up being a topic in a conversation I was having; I thought it'd be a good idea to use Wiktionary to get a quick definition. Point is, the page's gone, and the reason for deletion said it's a neologism or a protologism. How can that be? The term has a Wiktionary page, is used by linguists, and cot-caught merger, a very similar term, does have a Wiktionary page. How come it doesn't meet WT:CFI? MedK1 (talk) 19:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC) MedK1 (talk) 19:26, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

Sounds like bullshit to me. I bet it came from some dumb Wikipedia list that got copied around the internet. And don't try to use circular logic on me, it won't work. DTLHS (talk) 20:17, 1 September 2022 (UTC)

How is it circular? The reasoning is "It should be a page because it meets WT:CFI actually, just like this other term which does have a page. It meets WT:CFI because it's used by laymen and linguists... exactly as WT:CFI asks." There's no circular argument here. MedK1 (talk) 17:18, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

@DTLHS Weighing in very late here, but "I bet it came from some dumb Wikipedia list" and "sounds like bullshit" are in fact bullshit reasons to delete a page. It should obviously have gone to WT:RFV. Theknightwho (talk) 03:23, 17 November 2023 (UTC)

eo-IPA

Could you tweak this template to add syllable count? Either just rhyme subcategory, or the main syllable-count category, they're both pretty common now, and it seems like it would be a useful function. embryomystic (talk) 08:14, 23 September 2022 (UTC)

anagrams

Is it right to list μeV as an anagram of EV? I know we disregard punctuation symbols and capitalisation but I wasn't sure this was intended. John Cross (talk) 11:29, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

I wanted to mention that having 'LαEs' as anagram of 'ELS' is obviously wrong, it's not because Greek letters aren't Latin letters that they shouldn't count. Exarchus (talk) 14:17, 11 May 2023 (UTC)

Module:validate IPA

Can I delete this? It's not used and the validation functionality is already part of Module:IPA. — Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 20:59, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

Tracking

Hi. If you ever come back, can you hit is up with some more Spanish newspaper tracking? My supplies are running low OpenForceage (talk) 13:45, 23 February 2023 (UTC)

Need your input on a policy impacting gadgets and UserJS

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Anagram bot

Why is this bot spamming anagrams all over the Wiktionary and Wikipedia? It's not useful or good. For example see the pages for the old word elder. (Which has a very complex and diverse usage spanning many language groups, cultures and religions; and is at risk of slow motion edit wars.) That page presently has a negative value anagram section injected by this bot uselessly stating an anagram of the actual noun e-l-d-e-r with the non-noun alleged name word e-d-l-e-r ; and separately the bulk of the notional dictionary content regarding this "word" is comprised of the non peer reviewed assertions that black people use the name Yedler and white people use the name Edler. What does this modern and frankly trivial, irrelevant and sadly race-centering intellectual claptrap have to do with the definition or etymology of the actual word elder? The answer is surely: nothing. But is being spammed onto this page, and many more, by the bot under your control. Why? Who cares what the family name anagram spellings are, of words that are not family names but rather exist in a dozen or more languages for millennia? This is not a scrabble website. Respectfully, 2600:4040:5AEF:B400:1D0:D9E0:6164:12B2 11:30, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

Wiktionary accepts anagrams, and I think it's useful that we have an anagram bot. The only problem is, User:NadandoBot has not made a single edit this year (its last edit was on 9 February 2022), so we've been missing the bot that updates anagrams. Mölli-Möllerö (talk) 15:28, 6 December 2023 (UTC)

@Mölli-Möllerö Don't bother engaging - it's snobbery disguised behind pseudointellectual bullshit. Theknightwho (talk) 16:00, 6 December 2023 (UTC)