User talk:CategorizationBot/Archives/2012/January

Bot down

Hello. It seems the bot is down, as it hasn't edited all day and barely edited yesterday.  Hazard-SJ  ±  06:01, 2 January 2012 (UTC)

Step by step process for categorization

Hello Friends, 77.124.221.129 07:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC) מחקו לי את רוב התמונות מדוע? 77.124.221.129 07:13, 19 January 2012 (UTC) I am new to wikipedia, i just want to know how to categorize images. If anyone can give a step by step layman explanation will be great.

Regards

Image:Smart1.jpg

Hallo! OK! Tambo (talk) 12:41, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

cathegorisation

c'est fait--Daniel7 (talk) 17:37, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Thanks, I have made some minor fixes at both of your files. --Saibo (Δ) 18:09, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Weird bot action

What's going on here? I added categories to my jpgs last night. Now the bot has prefixed them with the wording categories: in front of the already present wording categories: presumably making the original wording invalid? Then it told me my jpgs were uncategorised this afternoon?????????????(Greenpenwriter (talk) 12:51, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

• Image:The valiant sailor pub, Nelson street, KIngs Lynn.JPG was uncategorized on 23 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:46, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Was uncategorized until 23 January 2012 16:00:05‎. So the bot is not lying.
• Image:Kings Lynn museum.JPG was uncategorized on 25 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Also correct - was uncategorized until 26 January 2012 12:35:35‎
• Image:Kings Lynn globe.JPG was uncategorized on 25 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Also correct - was uncategorized until 26 January 2012, 12:36:19
• Image:KIngs Lynn globe close up.JPG was uncategorized on 25 January 2012 CategorizationBot (talk) 11:42, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
  • Also correct - was uncategorized until 26 January 2012 12:38:06‎

You had added categories like this on some of these images: Category:Category:Example - you see, there is a "Category:" too much - that doesn't work. Thanks for your help and smile a bit at the bot which is not really wrong.  :-) --Saibo (Δ) 14:01, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

That was what I was puzzled about because I cut and pasted just the one category. I don't know how the other one appeared while I wasn't online? Gremlinbot perhaps:-Greenpenwriter (talk) 14:41, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

No other user made changes - maybe it was a hidden Gremlin, yes. ;-) You can just remove that message from the bot on your talk page. I made some changes to the files, too - e.g. links to Wikipedia article and more categories. Cheers --Saibo (Δ) 15:20, 26 January 2012 (UTC)

Good idea, needs a work before it's not just annoying

Categorization bot seems to check new uploads and reacts if there are no categories (I assume)

suggestions

1. Don't include a link labelled "email" in the page text if following it yields "this user has elected not to receive email"... that was the first place I tried to send this feedback. Personally, I found that rude.
2. You should probably put the "how to categorize a file" ahead of the "what to do better via the uploader next time", since the people receiving the notification will want to do the former right away.
3. In the "how to categorize an existing file" you talk about editing the file description page - there's no immediate indication of what that is. I uploaded a file, and I linked to it. I did no more than that, so I have no idea what a file description page is, where to find it, or how to edit it. Thus, after receiving your notification, I actually tried to categorize the image, but couldn't figure out how. The words "file description" don't seem to appear under any of the links.
4. You might include a "list of existing categories", since I'm not sure if you want any of the below:

• Images uploaded by Bob The Magnificent
• Images created using DIA
• Images stored as a PNG
• Line drawing diagrams
• Monochrome Images
• Physics terms
• Rocketry terms
• Laymans-Description-of-the-rocketry-term-specific-impulse

1. You might suggest categories (inferred from the pages where the file is used and/or from the filename (ok, that's weak))
2. Offering a link to a "well categorized file" along with the text that shows the categorizations might be a good idea as well

Summary

This is a good tool. I'm glad someone wrote it. I'm concerned people receiving their first contact from this bot might be more in the "Screw this jerk" mentality after reading its comments, and I think that should get adressed.

I use {{Please link images}}. We're actually going to work on improving this message over the next couple of weeks, see Commons:WikiProject Templates/Testing. Multichill (talk) 11:42, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Templating the regulars

Hi, While I think that this bot is useful, it probably shouldn't be posting massive messages on why categories are a good idea on the talk pages of people who've uploaded tons of images and done lots of work with categories like it did to me when I forgot to categorise one of the many images I added over the weekend ;) Nick-D (talk) 10:03, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

It's just a friendly note to easily track uncategorized files. Feel free to remove it. Multichill (talk) 11:39, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Please don't put certain categories

I discovered this modification.
Could your bot avoid to add Category:Families of Aves (no picture is a family of bird! Only family categories and family articles are intended there).
More generaly to add any Category:Families of XXXXXX, Category:Tribes of XXXXX, Category:Genera of XXXXX, Category:Species of XXXXX.
To help you avoid these categories, I created Category:Biology categories that should contain no files.
Best regards Liné1 (talk) 21:18, 19 January 2012 (UTC)

CategorizationBot was still categorizing with Category:Species of Salicaceae (see here) on the 24 of january.

Did someone look at that issue ?

Thanks Liné1 (talk) 09:07, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

You can have them added to the bot's exclusion list by making an "edit protected" request at User talk:Multichill/Category blacklist. --  Docu  at 09:15, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure how the category ended up at the image in the first place. I don't see a connection and it's hidden, so it shouldn't be added anyway.

If this really happens a lot I can look into it more closely. I'd rather keep the blacklist for really general categories with a big overpopulation problem. Multichill (talk) 11:36, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

And Category:Biology categories that should contain no files is more than 580 category big, so adding them all to User talk:Multichill/Category blacklist would mess your blacklist. Cheers Liné1 (talk) 18:23, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

Metacategories

Is it possible to have this bot not add metacategories to files? Metacategories should usually contain only other categories. --Auntof6 (talk) 23:32, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Yes, that's possible. Make sure that the right Commonscategory links exist at the Wikipedia's and the bot will filter off the parent (meta) categories. Multichill (talk) 11:29, 29 January 2012 (UTC)

File:Soni Family Jaipur 1930.jpg

I have categorised these three files today.Soni Ruchi (talk) 06:18, 31 January 2012 (UTC)