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November 12

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Professional wrestling debut categories

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Nominator's rationale: I don't see a scheme for debuts for pro wrestlers or really any other profession, just things like Category:Debut albums and Category:Directorial debut films. The year of a wrestler's debut is not a defining characteristic to the individual. These are available as lists in 1987 in professional wrestling#Debuts and 1988 in professional wrestling#Debuts, respectively. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 22:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep - The year wrestlers debut is noteworthy. Pretty much all Japanese wrestlers have rivals based off of the year they debuted like Chono/Mutoh/Hashimoto. Sometimes teams are formed based on years people debuted. There's often rookie cups and titles. I would look at it more like Category:1990 films. Unlike other sports or even movies, there's no organized amateur pro wrestling scene. You are a pro wrestler when you have your first match. KatoKungLee (talk) 01:53, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Shouldn't the category then be more along the lines of "Professional wrestlers who debuted in 1987"? Anyway, the equivalent in other sports would be a player's rookie season, and no one is categorizing Michael Jordan by playing his first professional basketball game in 1984. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 02:39, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Rookies in other sports have already played organized ball for many years at various levels by the time they make the major leagues. Michael Jordan's first pro game was in 1984. When a wrestler debuts, they are a wrestler from that day forward. It doesn't matter whether it's in WWE or something like Ice Ribbon, it's counted the same because there are no organized amateur leagues. How long you've been around and when you've debuted tells you a lot about variou wrestlers.KatoKungLee (talk) 19:08, 13 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Former South Florida Bulls sports venues

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Nominator's rationale: No need to distinguish between former and current. User:Namiba 18:00, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Video games by protagonist

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Nominator's rationale: Even though it only contains other categories containing "Protagonist", the current name is ambiguous, you could add "Bugs Bunny video games" or "Batman video games" to the subcategories. We already have a separate category entitled Category:Video games by featured character but not all of them center on games featuring the same single character as the protagonist. It would be better to just simply rename this to avoid confusion. QuantumFoam66 (talk) 17:46, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Wahhabists

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Nominator's rationale: Quite simple, "Wahhabi" is the more common demonym than "Wahhabist" or "Wahhabite". Consistent with Wahhabi-related articles Wahhabi War (Category:Wahhabi War), Wahhabi sack of Karbala, Wahhabi Sack of Najaf (1806), Category:Wahhabi dynasties etc. and also consistent with other Islamic denominational categories such as Category:Barelvis (not Barelvists), Category:Deobandis (not Deobandists), Category:Salafis etc. Also, Ngrams results give a signifiant lead to "Wahhabi" over "Wahhabist" and "Wahhabite". Viwivi (talk) 13:16, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Haskell implementations

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Nominator's rationale: The only page/cat in this cat is Category:Free Haskell implementations, both of which are sub cats of Category:Haskell software. No point in having this. (Please ping on any comment or reply, I cannot watch all changes of this high traffic page. Thanks!) ~/Bunnypranav:<ping> 13:14, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:FM-Class articles

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Nominator's rationale: Quite simply, these are not articles, but are pages in the File namespaces. I suspect the category was named because it was easier to populate via template, but now we are using lua it will be easy to change this — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 10:56, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Foreign residents of Mexican California

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Nominator's rationale: merge, unnecessary distinction, especially at provincial level, and for the larger part we do not know if people were naturalized or not. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:29, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:19th century in Alta California

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Nominator's rationale: merge, the province Alta California existed wholly within the 19th century. Marcocapelle (talk) 05:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Haitian billionaires

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Nominator's rationale: I would have said merge to Category:Haitian people but that category shouldn't have entries. Unlikely to be more Haitian billionaires out there. LibStar (talk) 04:59, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Presidential residences in Puntland

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Nominator's rationale: Underpopulated category with only one page in it. SMasonGarrison 02:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Arkansas politicians convicted of corruption

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Nominator's rationale: Narrow category that shouldn't be diffusing and doesn't help navigation with a single person in it SMasonGarrison 02:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Presidential elections in the United States

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Nominator's rationale: Per title of main article - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 00:55, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If that format is kept, the base article ideally should also be titled Presidential elections in the United States. Articles pertaining to individual elections can remain. - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs) 05:41, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Gravity Rush (franchise)

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Nominator's rationale: There are only 3 real pages that belong here, GR1, GR2 and Kat. I don't think this passes the bar for a franchise category, much as I wish it did. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 00:23, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
(category creator) For what it's worth, it also contains a navigation template and four files. I think PlayStation All-Stars Battle Royale also fits in the category pretty solidly considering all its other franchise categories, and the two real-world people are relevant enough to categorize too, in my opinion. I'll say keep, but I'm fine if it's deleted (admittedly, all I know about Gravity Rush is from Scott the Woz). — gabldotink talk | contribs | global account ] 01:20, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Well, All-Stars Battle Royale shouldn't be in any franchise categories. Per WP:CATDEF, it has to be defining for the game (i.e. being a literal part of that franchise, not having a cameo character from it). ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ () 05:18, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Category:Times that 0 Wikipedians supported something

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The following is an archived discussion concerning one or more categories. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on an appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.
The result of the discussion was: category has already been deleted
Nominator's rationale: accidentally made I'm so sorry Avienby () 05:30, 12 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

The above is preserved as an archive of the discussion. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the category's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this section.