Talk:set

This is going to be a big one

This is going to be a big one. There are well over a hundred definitions of this word. Care needs to be taken to ensure that translations are associated with the correct senses.

...not a lot of enthusiasm for this one, considering its the longest entry in OED...? ;) 20.133.0.13 10:27, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

By far- its entry is 85 000 words long i.i the length of a paperback novel212.219.59.222 15:32, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Well, I think they put it well on Piffle and Balderdash (a BBC series in conjunction with the OED on words, defining, adding, redefining, etc.) when they talked of this word. I'll paraphrase since I'm not freakish enough to recall an exact quote word for word: Longest entry, etc. etc., many definitions, but unlike many words one does not need to be told a definition to understand what it means (meaning being provided by it's context), which makes it a very neat little word indeed.--Amedeofelix 14:52, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

Actually, ever since June 2000, the entry for the verb make has been longer than that for the verb set. (This might change back once the set entry gets revised, though; right now they're only up to prim.) —Ruakh_TALK 02:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

Where, here? The fact that no explanation is required for people to know what set means in any given sentence separates it very nicely from most other words including make.--Amedeofelix 09:53, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

removed comment

Someone commented out this noun sense as:

not a noun sense: # device used to hold things (a set screw)

God I hate comments. DAVilla 07:50, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Adjustment of noun meaning #14 to encompass stand-up comedy? (i.e. performing arts)

(music) A musical performance by a band, disc jockey, etc., consisting of several musical pieces. This term also applies very similarly to stand-up comedy (and possibly to the performing arts in general). So I'm wondering which is the best option of the following:

• 1 adjust the (music) meaning to "(performing arts) A performance by a band, disc jockey, comedian, etc., consisting of several musical pieces or jokes."

OR

• 2 add another meaning as follows: "# (stand-up comedy) An on-stage performance by a stand-up comedian consisting of several jokes."

? Thanks in advance for any (polite) feedback. (I'm still new at wiktionary.)--Tyranny Sue 06:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

Noun meaning #15 sett ( 'see also'? related term? Alternative spelling?)

Should 'sett' be added to the 'See also' list? And/or listed as a related term list? And/or should it be an Alternative spelling (as 'set' appears on the 'sett' entry)? I'm still too new to Wiktionary to be sure of the rules. --Tyranny Sue 07:20, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

I added {{homophones}} in pronunciation. I hope users look there. DCDuring TALK 20:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)

error? "collection of objects" is in etymology 1 *and* 2

Etymology 1, noun, entry #12 is:

• A series of, a group of.

Etymology 2, noun, entries #5, #6, and #7 are:

• A matching collection of similar things.
• A collection of various objects for a particular purpose.
• An object made up of several parts.

So, did the same word with the same spelling and the same meaning come from two different places, or should this definition be deleted from which etymology? Gronky (talk) 16:28, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Different dictionaries treat this subject differently. Some argue that they are still separate words that have the same spelling, but others say that over time they have merged, with a new surface analysis of "objects that are set down".

Personally, I tend to give more credence to the latter argument. Tharthan (talk) 18:12, 19 May 2015 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for the reply. Neither possibility is intuitive, so I'll add a note to both definitions. Gronky (talk) 23:04, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

Homophones

@Jamesjiao, Donnanz, are sit and set really homophones in New Zealand English? I’m aware that the vowel of DRESS is very high in NZE, but it doesn’t merge with KIT, does it? — Ungoliant ^(falai) 21:26, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

@Ungoliant MMDCCLXIV: Not in my experience, but I haven't lived in NZ since 1971. I'm a South Islander, but it could happen in the north. It doesn't say that they are homophones at sit, only at set. DonnanZ (talk) 21:51, 22 August 2018 (UTC)

Dance-related noun

We have "the initial or basic formation of dancers". Chambers 1908 has two further (or overlapping) senses along these lines: "the couples that take part in a square dance" and "the movements in a country-dance or quadrille". Equinox ◑ 20:42, 14 September 2019 (UTC)

get set (for)

Does get set (for) deserve an entry? --Backinstadiums (talk) 13:43, 31 October 2019 (UTC)

according to stereotype 2. assigned to study

2. conforming to an established, often conventional formula
He rattled off a set speech

2. assigned for students to study
a set text 
Microsoft® Encarta® 2009

--Backinstadiums (talk) 17:52, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

adjective: when the sun was set

Isn't it used as an adjective in At Even, When the Sun was Set ? --Backinstadiums (talk) 18:36, 22 May 2020 (UTC)

Thesaurus for set theoretical sense (and cleanup) of English etymology 4

Etymology 4 of the English section needs a bit of tending to. I'm mainly referring to the lists of linked terms; This entry already lists a lot of semantically related terms (though a good number of terms you'd expect to see listed are still missing too,) and these lists are quite disorganized. The set theoretical sense of the word in particular is a mess. Seen as this sense pertains to the fundamental concept at the core of set theory and the greater foundations of mathematics as a whole, there's a lot of semantic relatives and terms derived specifically from this sense of the word. Yet this page listed only eight of them, all as hypernyms, no less, even though the majority of the terms listed were hyponyms, and one of them wasn't even a semantic relative at all! I've renamed that section as "See also" since. You'd think someone would have created a thesaurus page by now, but this isn't the case, though poset does have a thesaurus page. So I'll be tending to that shortly. If anyone has any tips or recommendations about the specifics of this soon-to-be thesaurus page, I'm all ears. And it might be a good idea to look at other similarly lengthy pages that may be suffering from similar issues. 110521sgl (talk) 08:55, 5 July 2023 (UTC)

Missing word sense in Etymology 1 ?

The translations glosses include "bend teeth of a saw" and indeed translations are coherent with this gloss, but I cannot see any meaning fitting this gloss. Dodecaplex (talk) 16:31, 28 February 2024 (UTC)