User talk:Andamanes
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Alexandre Mars
[edit]Hello, Andamanes. We welcome your contributions to Wikipedia, but if you are affiliated with some of the people, places or things you have written about in the article Alexandre Mars, you may have a conflict of interest or close connection to the subject.
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For information on how to contribute to Wikipedia when you have a conflict of interest, please see our frequently asked questions for organizations. Thank you. The Dissident Aggressor 16:23, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Please stop your disruptive editing. If you continue to add soapboxing, promotional or advertising material to Wikipedia, as you did at Alexandre Mars, you may be blocked from editing. --Orange Mike | Talk 17:58, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
About that article
[edit]Hello, Jennifer! I saw the discussion on Ritchie333's talk page about your article about Alexandre Mars. That discussion must be fairly confusing to you, so I thought I would offer some advice here. That discussion is mostly about copyright violation, whether the article you proposed is or is not a copyright violation, and that is certainly an issue. But the bigger issue is: should Wikipedia even have an article about Mr. Mars? Wikipedia is an international encyclopedia, and as such it has criteria for a subject to be included here. The general criterion is the WP:General notability guideline. The specific criterion for a biography of a person is at WP:BIO. The bottom line is that the person must be have received significant coverage, specifically about them, from multiple independent reliable sources (such as newspapers and magazines). Things like Facebook, Linked-in, his own companies, or anything else under his control do not count; the sources must be independent. If Mr. Mars has been written about in detail by independent sources, then he can have an article here. If he has not - if the only sources you can find are from his own companies and websites, or passing mentions in independent sources - then he cannot have an article here. The fact that he wants an article, or that he wants Wikipedia to be part of a "media presence," makes no difference. This is an encyclopedia, not a social media site. You can't have an article here just because you want one.
What I would suggest is this: Start over. Start an article from scratch, in your own words, in different words from what it says on his linkedin page. Start it in your "sandbox", not in the main encyclopedia - where it will likely get deleted again. You can find a link to your sandbox at the top of this page. That is your private space, where you can take your time to develop the article and - most important - list references to establish that he qualifies for an article. Look at articles about similar people to see how to format and cite the article. When you think you have it in pretty good shape, ask an established editor to take a look at it and see if it is likely to be accepted this time.
There is one other problem: you have a conflict of interest in writing about your boss. Wikipedia discourages that, but does not completely prohibit it. However, you have to be extra careful to be totally neutral in your writing, not to use WP:PUFFERY or WP:PROMOTION. You (and he) also need to realize that you will not WP:OWN the article. Other people can and will edit it. If there is documented information about him that is bad, or that he would rather not see in the article, someone will add it anyhow, and you will not be able to remove it. Even if the article becomes unflattering, you will not be able to delete it from Wikipedia. That is why Wikipedia is not a good place to promote yourself. Facebook and Linked-in and such are better for promotion, because you control the content. At Wikipedia you do not control the content.
Please discuss these comments with Mr. Mars so that he can understand what the issues are: why a Wikipedia article may not be in his best interest, and why an article about him may not be accepted, due to Wikipedia's inclusion criteria and without any fault or failing on your part. You are doing your best, but it really all depends on him - on whether he has received the necessary coverage from independent reliable sources. --MelanieN (talk) 20:30, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
- I forgot to say: since you have a conflict of interest, you need to say so publicly, in order to comply with Wikipedia's COI policy. You already did so on Ritchie333's talk page, but you should also say it on your user page, which is here: User:Andamanes. You don't have to give your name, but you could say something like "I am the Director of Communications for the Epic Foundation. Any edits I make to articles about the Epic Foundation or Alexandre Mars are made in my official capacity as their employee." --MelanieN (talk) 23:29, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
Hi Melanie, thanks for your note! Alexandre has had a LOT of coverage in the media actually. In my original Wikipedia article, I've cited at least 10 articles he's been quoted in. He's been featured in the Wall Street Journal, in The Observer's Top Philanthropists in NYC list, Le Monde (the biggest publication in France), DEVEX (a major international development publication), among many others. He's also been a guest speaker at Mobile Media Summit, Global Philanthropy Forum, Ad Week, etc. I will draft a new article as you suggested and try to keep it neutral. Jennchowdhury (talk) 14:17, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
Using multiple accounts
[edit]What is your relation to Jennepicfoundation (talk · contribs) and Jennchowdhury (talk · contribs)? The Dissident Aggressor 15:57, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Hi there, no relation. We are not using multiple accounts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jennchowdhury (talk • contribs) 16:15, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
- Then why are Jennepicfoundation and Jennchowdury both editing Ritchie's page? The Dissident Aggressor 16:29, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
Blocked
[edit]Since this account has been identified as an inactive account of User:jennepicfoundation I have blocked it indefinitely. You are still able to edit this page if you wish to make any comments or request an unblock. --MelanieN (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2015 (UTC)