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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎. The consensus is a WP:SNOW keep. (non-admin closure) Selfstudier (talk) 11:47, 14 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Al-Aqsa Flood

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This article was originally merged here into what is now named 2023 Israel-Hamas war.

Subsequently, it was demerged with limited discussion even though a large number of editors have been commenting on the ongoing event.

The current title, subject of a chaotic current RM, is POV and since this is an integral part of the ongoing war, it should be deleted/remerged with 2023 Israel-Hamas war. Selfstudier (talk) 17:43, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

  • Keep/Speedy Close — Title is sourced by several secondary reliable sources including Al Jazeera, Reuters, & The United Nations (UN). The UN even said and I quote, “On Saturday, 7 October — a Jewish sabbath day, the end of the weeklong Jewish festival of Sukkot, and a day after the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur War — Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups launched Operation al-Aqsa Flood, a coordinated assault consisting of land and air attacks into multiple border areas of Israel.” AfD nominator participated in the so called “chaotic RM”, stated it was POV, and is now attempting to cause disruption to Wikipedia because several editors (current solid majority in fact) say the article title is perfectly fine, especially given the UN uses it. I request this AfD get speedy closed as being disruptive in the middle of a perfectly valid requested move discussion…especially given the AfD nomination itself violates WP:NPOV with “The current title, subject of a chaotic current RM, is POV” being an opinion from the AfD nominator, who is beating a dead horse at this point. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 18:06, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment — At the time of this message, the requested move discussion being referenced by the AfD nominator has 17 editors involved with 49 comments. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 18:19, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep. This is like proposing to delete page September 11 attacks. Yes, this extraordinary attack by Hamas forces led to 2023 Israel–Hamas war (pretty much like USA have declared their "war on terror"), but the attack by Hamas is a separate well defined event, hence a separate page. This is a legitimate sub-page of 2023 Israel–Hamas war. My very best wishes (talk) 18:59, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
    • Keep. Agree with rationale of My very best wishes. These are two distinct topics, and this page qualifies as a well-defined sub-page of 2023 Israel–Hamas war, i.e. "Operation AlAqsa Flood" is not synonymous with the entire war, and only describes a front/operation at the beginning of an current event/war. Although this page led to and can topically be contained within the 2023 Israel–Hamas war page, the content within that page should only contain summary knowledge of this topic because the extent of information needed to sufficiently cover this topic would make that page too lengthy. Relspas (talk) 23:55, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep The title of the article (Al-Aqsa Flood) is the actual name that Hamas announced for its operation against Israel, and it is the most widespread name.In most of the wars and rounds of escalation taking place between Hamas and Israel, the name of the operation is announced after a period of time, but the current title was exported from the first minutes, and it is the most widespread.--— Osama Eid (talk) 19:14, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Keep, possibly rename as the Operation Overlord analogy made a lot of sense to me. - AquilaFasciata (talk | contribs) 19:16, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
  • Merge How many sub-articles will we create when the current war has only been going on for 6 days? Hamas refers to the entire war under the symbolic name Operation Al-Aqsa Flood. Dl.thinker (talk) 21:07, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]
Military operations last for a while. Operation Overlord, one of the most famous military operations in history lasted over 2 months. The Weather Event Writer (Talk Page) 21:18, 13 October 2023 (UTC)[reply]

*Merge. It covers the exact same content as the 2023 Israel–Hamas war article. David O. Johnson (talk) 03:15, 14 October 2023 (UTC) [reply]

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