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Trax FM

I note in the history of the Trax FM page you have reverted edits made by unknown user 217.33.92.186 as they have not given any reason for removal of the information. I previously checked the IP address and noted it's origin, it is indeed LincsFM PLC, so someone there is 'tidying up' their pages on Wikipedia, but only to their advantage. In recent times they have closed the Bassetlaw studio, this info has been removed by the 'anon' user. I am loathe to edit the page myself as there could be seen to be a conflict of interest. I am also unsure how much of their entry would constitute advertising? TrustAM (talk) 10:34, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

I reverted their edit to the Trax FM article. I will keep an eye on it. --tgheretford (talk) 19:15, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

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Wikipedia is not a Movie, Book or TV Guide

Should Wikipedia become a one stop Movie, Book or TV Guide?
Please make your views known at WT:NOT#Wikipedia is not a Movie, Book or TV Guide. --Gavin Collins (talk) 10:21, 14 October 2008 (UTC)

Nation Radio - request for comment

Hi Tghe-retford, you seem to be one of the driving forces behind the UK radio task force, could you please shed any light on a discussion at Talk:Nation_Radio, namely if a station is based in one town, but broadcasts from a transmitter located elsewhere, what's the usual practice in describing its broadcast area - by reference to the location of the studio or the location of the transmitter? Apologies if this seems a little pedantic! Pondle (talk) 23:25, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Your bet has paid off... eventually

Look at Wikipedia talk:April fools, it seems you were right, of course it did take more than a year.--Ipatrol (talk) 19:58, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I kinda knew that would have happened sooner or later. Now - how to spend my winnings... --tgheretford (talk) 20:34, 31 January 2009 (UTC)

Wyre: Warning before AfD

Hi Tghe-retford! An article within the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Radio/UK Radio urgently needs references to prevent it from being deleted. If you can help, please provide verifiable sources for the page at The Wyre.

Just a word of thanks for your rapid interventions on this :) --Kudpung (talk) 01:20, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

You deserve this

The Tireless Contributor Barnstar, awarded to Tghe-retford for plenty of good editing. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

For the terrific edits you have made on Wikipedia, here is the Tireless Contributor Barnstar. You deserve it! It's been nice to have known you here. Wikiwoohoo (talk) 22:09, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Thank you very much for the award and the kind works. It's made my day. --tgheretford (talk) 22:48, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

Unsourced UK radio articles

I've appreciated your help on radioi articloes before, so I'm hoping you'll be able to help again. I keep coming across lenthy, detailed, and sometimes quire well written articles on UK radio stations. However, some of them are little, or even totally unsourced. I don't want to sound naïve on this, because I know the rules, but is there a special disposition for radio articles not to need references? our WP:WORCS is going to start getting quite merciless with such articles, and as we don't have the subject knowledge, all we can do will be delete. I don't want to do tis because ironically I'm actually an inclusionist. What can we do? --Kudpung (talk) 04:09, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

From my knowledge of the Radio WikiProject, there is a widely held belief that any licensed radio station (they, being mostly made up of American editors, will focus on the FCC, but Ofcom would equally apply) automatically gains notability, hence won't get deleted. The Broadcast notability standards found at WP:BCAST is a little different:

“ Radio stations - There are considerably more radio stations in existence than television stations, some with large audiences and some with small. However, radio stations tend to have long histories and while the owners and formats change, the stations generally stay put. Notability can be established by either a large audience, established broadcast history, or unique programming... ”

We can ignore the bits on repeater or translator stations as they don't apply to UK articles. The answer nowadays is there in bold, but of course would need to be covered by references, which many editors don't bother in doing. Do be aware though that the notability standards I mentioned there are from an essay and are not part of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so they can only be used as a pointer to what should be covered and referenced in an article, and may assist in any AfD consensus. It's difficult to call as to where we should go from here, a rash of AfD nominations may wake up editors to establishing notability, but could potentially also be seen as disrupting Wikipedia to make a point, whilst just adding {{unreferenced}} and {{refimprove}} will not wake people up to the problem and the apathy to continuing to not add references and establish notability for the article subject will just continue. Ultimately the only answer could be to be bold and do it yourself, by either adding the references yourself (I added some links to radio websites which can help along with Google News Archive), nominating articles to AfD now and again or to just keep the status quo.

Where editors cannot be bothered in adding references to an article is more than likely a widespread issue and needs to be discussed (if it hasn't already) with the community at large. --tgheretford (talk) 11:43, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks Tghe-retford, for that extraordinary informative reply. My major concern is for the sometimes long lists of past and present presenters, often with items of biograpgical information. IMO that would fall quite strictly underWP:BLP and should be removed if not verifiably sourced. What would be your recommendation on that? Note that I always personally warn all major contributors before I carry out any radical editing, or before I PROD or AfD.--Kudpung (talk) 11:59, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Agreed. It's something that I have been working on with 102.2 Jazz FM on my sandbox although work on that has stalled (having a girlfriend - well, now ex-girlfriend didn't help) and I have added a good number of them to the Jazz FM (UK)#Presenters and Shows article, even though there is still room for improvement. Also worth noting that I have tried to make that information reference, informative without sliding to the temptation of adding a station schedule to the article. Pretty difficult to do though, because specific third party references (which are needed to establish inclusion) for presenters and shows are thin on the ground, but I would agree entirely that presenters need to be referenced on pages to prevent potential biographies of living persons violations, and violations should be dealt with as per policy. --tgheretford (talk) 12:07, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks again for your help. It will probably be the presenter sections that will be first to get the chop then. After of course a polite message on all the contributors talk pages that they can do something about it if they act quickly. It will also serve as a warning as to what may happen to rest of the unsourced items on the articles.--Kudpung (talk) 12:18, 20 February 2010 (UTC)

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Ted Heath (bandleader)

I originally wrote to an admin on this subject matter, and he suggested contacting someone on the Jazz Project. Well....

There is a relatively inexperienced editor, User talk:Nijaedthih, who has taken on this article, which I spotted back in June 2010 as needing some serious attention. It was unsourced, breezy, anecdotal etc. He/she is battling away alone, turning the piece around (it is on my watchlist) and doing a great job. He/she, I feel, just needs a bit of support, guidance and an experienced hand (mentoring, maybe) to oil the wheels. Whilst my love of music is wide-ranging, this subject matter is really not my cup of tea, and I am busy elsewhere. Could you, or one of your jazzy colleagues, help give the editor a deserved pat on the back, and a guiding hand ?

The editor might be appalled that I've suggested such a thing; but he/she is battling away gamely without any support or assistance. Many thanks,

Derek R Bullamore (talk) 13:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

Taking the banner off of Gwen Grant's entry?

Hi! Thanks for all your help the other week.

Can the banner be removed from Gwen Grant's entry? As far as I can tell, all of the issues have been addressed.

Thanks for your consideration! Ian — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iangrant1964 (talk • contribs) 17:02, 13 January 2011 (UTC) I forgot to sign it: Iangrant1964 (talk) 23:25, 13 January 2011 (UTC)

No worries. I do still think that it could do with a few more in-line citations within some parts of the article, so for now, I will reluctantly decline to remove the banner from the article in good faith. The references I found and added to the article should keep it from deletion and establish notability, but it does need a few more references from third party sources in my view. You'll have also to excuse my delay in replying, I have been meeting with my local MP and district councillors on the future of Bassetlaw District General Hospital. --tgheretford (talk) 01:39, 15 January 2011 (UTC)

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Replaced with a PNG version of the image, will follow-up with speedy deletion for old file. --tgheretford (talk) 20:49, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually forget that, we'll just leave it as it is. I have some positivity to spread elsewhere. --tgheretford (talk) 20:55, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

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		I hope you don't mind but I noticed you a little while ago when I converted one of your uploads to a PNG version. I see you have a few awards already but think you deserve this one too! Keep up your good work! :-) Hugahoody (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much. Much appreciated. --tgheretford (talk) 20:35, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Smooth jazz

A user is trying to push a POV view on the smooth jazz article that it isn't a subgenre of jazz. Because of this, I brought it up on the NPOV noticeboard. I would greatly appreciate your help. ANDROS¹³³⁷_TALK 22:21, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikiproject British TV channels

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Done. --tgheretford (talk) 00:31, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

You're up late! Can you add your name below the original list in the section named 'Re-confirmed participants'? You were quick and got there before I'd updated the page. Thanks. Auntie Beeb (talk) 00:40, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

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That's fine (I've seen it's already been done) and thanks for the star. It'll be a rare catch to have me up late now as I start a new job which has me starting earlier. --tgheretford (talk) 18:41, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

Recognition

In light of your recent barnstar awarded by myself, I've looked through the list and have found you worthy of several. Auntie Beeb (talk) 17:39, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

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Thank you very much for the recognition and your kindness. It's very much appreciated. --tgheretford (talk) 19:27, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

Retired

I've decided to retire so just wanted to say it was nice meeting you and best wishes. Auntie Beeb (talk) 00:35, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Thank you very much for your efforts and work on Wikipedia and I wish you all the best in your future endeavours. --tgheretford (talk) 09:27, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

Emulators

Hi Tghe-retford. Per WP:FAILN, I am proposing a merger to a broader topic (actually, just a redirect since that list already includes Kega), before considering deletion. AfDs are not the place to discuss redirects. In this case, the title is a valid search term and the software is at least verifiable.

As for the other emulator articles, yes, I am going through them one by one; no, they are not all in the same state; no, I am not obliged to simultaneously nominate them all for deletion. Thanks, Marasmusine (talk) 12:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Of course, there are numerous problems with the list you redirected to anyway. I have started discussion with WT:VG to at least get a wider view on what to do and whether deletion may well be needed under multiple concerns. --tgheretford (talk) 17:12, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

Portal:Smooth jazz

I was wondering, Portal:Smooth jazz was made a long time ago, and no real improvement has been made sice it was created. I was wondering, perhaps we can collaborate on improving the portal. For example, I changed the color scheme from a boring black-and-white theme to a more smooth pink theme.

Do you have any ideas for the portal? ANDROS¹³³⁷_TALK 00:04, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

A (new) barnstar for you!

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Thank you very much. :-) --tgheretford (talk) 21:19, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

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Thanks for Barnstar

Thanks for the tireless contributor barnstar. In view of your stated interests, I am intrigued how you might have spotted that I was making contributions to river and canal articles. Probably some feature I haven't found yet! Bob1960evens (talk) 23:41, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

I knew that there was little information a few years ago in the river articles, checked tonight when I wanted to look-up information on the River Idle, saw that a lot of information had been added, checked through the View History option at the top right of a river article to see who added it by checking through the page history, found you and saw your contributions. --tgheretford (talk) 23:44, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

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Retford Town Hall Photo credit

Hello, I'd like to use your photo of Retford Town Hall (shown right) in the future. Under the terms of the Creative Commons Attribution-Share Alike 3.0 Unported license, you request attribution, and I would like to know whether you'd be happy with being attributed as Tghe-retford (as shown in the author details for the photo), or whether you'd prefer to be attributed as a different name? Peakhiker (talk) 10:39, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

You can use my real name, Gareth Hart, if you wish. --tgheretford (talk) 17:23, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

AfD nominations

Thanks for the note. Clearly "[media] from [private company" articles shouldn't here so I'll test the water with Bauer and move on from there. I hadn't even considered that we had channel guides for radio stations. doktorb _words^deeds 04:38, 30 October 2012 (UTC)

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A cup of tea for you!

I've been going through my talk archives and found our conversations about BBC and digital radio articles. Hope you're well. Cloudbound (talk) 18:37, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

I'm fine, thank you for asking. I've been busy as of late and have several things on the go at the moment. I keep an eye on here every now and again though. --tgheretford (talk) 17:55, 23 October 2015 (UTC)

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