Talk:VHS-C

This page not only doesn't cite its references, but seems to be full of factual inaccuracies as well. 1982 is rather optimistically early for an intro date for VHS-C. 1990 or 1989 would be more like it. ( As someone who worked selling them, 89/90 was the start of the boom, not the introduction) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:380F:2100:A831:8A6A:6FBC:AD72 (talk) 18:43, 18 September 2019 (UTC)

The JVC GRC-1E was in the European market place in 1984 (the date I bought mine). It was preceeded by a VHS-C portable recorder (for use with a separate camera) in 1983. Since these products tend to appear in the US and Japan a year or so before they do in Europe, 1982 is certainly a far better figure than the one you propose. 20.133.0.13 (talk) 13:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

This page also exhibits atrocious grammar. I will come back and fix it if nobody else does.

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.178.32.149 (talk • contribs).

Yes. Since Betamovie was introduced in 1983 as the first home camcorder, it makes no sense that VHS-Compact would be invented a year before the camcorders even existed. VHS-C was developed in 1985. Theaveng 15:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

There is not actually any problem with this time line, VHS-C was developed for for portable players originaly. It was only after Sony had launched the Betamovie that VHS-C was re-apropriated for use in camcorders.

Cost of VHS-C and 8mm vs. MiniDV

Regarding cost comparisons [1]: the cheapest most people are ever going to find a DV tape is about US$3 a piece retail (you can get them cheaper, but not in stores, and $5/piece in quantity is more typical). Some looking around on various electronics retail sites (Crutchfield, J&R, Tapeworld.com, and Target.com for a retail comparison) indicates that VHS-C and 8mm start around $2/tape singly and Hi8 about a dollar or so per more; Mini-DV at its absolute cheapest seems to fall in the middle somewhere. I guess the issue is more complicated than I made out, but MiniDV is definitely more expensive at retail. (And that's just back-of-the-envelope figuring -- truth be told it gets much more complicated when you factor in run times and media durability.) I can say that the cheapest I've ever found MiniDV at retail (as opposed to mail order/Internet) was about $25 for 8 tapes (60 minutes, no chip), and that was at a warehouse store; a six-pack at a major electronics store (Best Buy) can be ten to twelve dollars more than that. Haikupoet 18:02, 26 December 2006 (UTC)

Problem is that you yourself admit it's not too clear cut, and you're (partly) relying on your own experience to cover a fairly broad generalisation. I believe what you say, but I'm kind of uncomfortable with the article making such claims based on that (and no reference)... :-/ Fourohfour 18:47, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

A fair point. Honestly, I think overall the cheapest is Video8, but you wouldn't want to do anything serious in Video8 simply because no one makes new Video8 cameras anymore... At any rate, I got the idea to do a document comparing different camcorder formats, but it probably won't be put up here -- not really encyclopedic. Haikupoet 00:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

MiniDV is a metal format. VHS-C is an oxide format, and oxide formats are always less-expensive than metal-based formats. I just picked-up a VHS-C tape for $1.50 at walmart. Impossible to match that price in a MiniDV blank.

As for MiniDV vs. 8mm, they are both made from metal stock, so the price should be essentially equal. If MiniDV is more expensive to purchase, it's probably due to higher demand, not higher manufacturing cost. Theaveng 15:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

All this may be true, but is based upon (a) extrapolation from your personal experience, and (b) Informed speculation (i.e. original research). Nothing wrong with that, so long as you're not planning on putting it in the article. Fourohfour 19:48, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

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