Wikipedia talk:Categories for discussion/Working
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| RfD | 0 | 0 | 6 | 39 | 45 |
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Bot processing of template parameters
editFive years ago when JJMC89 was extending his excellent bot to process CFDW, there was an inconclusive discussion about also updating parameters within templates.
At that time, JJMC89 offered: "For cases where the category name is placed in a template parameter, this is easy. How do we want to cover this?
- Replace the category name in any parameter of any template
- Replace the category name in any parameter of whitelisted templates
- Replace the category name in whitelisted parameters of whitelisted templates
- Replace the category name in any parameter of non-blacklisted templates"
Options 1 and 4 could lead to unpredictable outcomes not being detected promptly. For example, I would want to check the results of updating {{Fooian fooers}} before saving.
As for options 2 and 3, Black Falcon was afraid that a whitelist would be too cumbersome, but I would like at least the following to be added to the current bot actions for renamings:
- the category parameter within {{Stub category}} e.g. [1]
- the usercategory parameter within {{Userbox}} e.g. [2]
- the unnamed first parameter in {{Non-diffusing subcategory}}, e.g. [3]
- cat1 or cat2 in {{Uncited category}} on an article page, e.g. [4]
There will always be manual follow up required for some CFDs, but these seem fair requests for a bot to handle, particularly if we're only expecting them to be edited on pages that are current members of a category being renamed.
JJMC89 notes that this would be option #3 on his above list, but TBH I think we could safely simplify that to #2.
On his talk page, JJMC89 has asked for input from other CFD regulars before taking this forward. – Fayenatic London 21:26, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- Makes sense to me. Ymblanter (talk) 22:10, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- I think either 2 or 3 would be good. I think we should call it something other than whitelist (e.g. allowlist?) per phab:T254646 and related efforts. Would this be on-wiki? I think a fully-protected page would be a great way to do this. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 23:06, 16 October 2024 (UTC)
- @JJMC89: as requested, options 2 or 3 now have explicit support from the current regulars. Did you envisage a list editable by admins on a new protected subpage, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Bot template list (or a section of WP:CFDW?), or managed by yourself within the bot code following requests on this page? – Fayenatic London 21:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
- I will make an on-wiki configuration, editable by admins. I will let you know when I have the code ready to go. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:44, 5 November 2024 (UTC)
- @JJMC89: as requested, options 2 or 3 now have explicit support from the current regulars. Did you envisage a list editable by admins on a new protected subpage, e.g. Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Working/Bot template list (or a section of WP:CFDW?), or managed by yourself within the bot code following requests on this page? – Fayenatic London 21:06, 25 October 2024 (UTC)
NAC requests November 2024
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Please can an admin add the following: Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:People from Reedsville, West Virginia]] to [[:Category:People from Preston County, West Virginia]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Female models from Erie, Pennsylvania]] to [[:Category:Female models from Pennsylvania]] and [[:Category:People from Erie, Pennsylvania]]
Result: rename ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Palestine ethnographers]] to [[:Category:Ethnographers of Palestine (region)]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:People from Montcalm, West Virginia]] to [[:Category:People from Mercer County, West Virginia]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:People from Rowlesburg, West Virginia]] to [[:Category:People from Preston County, West Virginia]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Haebaru, Okinawa]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Actors from Beckley, West Virginia]] to [[:Category:Actors from Raleigh County, West Virginia]] and [[:Category:People from Beckley, West Virginia]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Kudat]] to [[:Category:Kudat District]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Bibai]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Ashoro, Hokkaido]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Buildings and structures in Rivash, Iran]] to [[:Category:Buildings and structures in Razavi Khorasan province]]
* [[:Category:Rivash, Iran]] ''(added 28 Oct)''
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Drissensky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Dvinsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Gorodoksky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Lepelsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Lyutsinsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Nevelsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Polotsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Rezhitsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Sebezhsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Velizhsky Uyezd]]
* [[:Category:Vitebsky Uyezd]]
Result: merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Merlo, Buenos Aires]] to [[:Category:Merlo Partido]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 27]]
* [[:Category:Nykøbing Sjælland]]
–LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 05:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC) Please can an admin add the following: I will process these on my main account once I get home, but feel free to beat me to it: Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 29]]
* [[:Category:NCAA Division I men's basketball tournament Final Four venues]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 29]]
* [[:Category:Washington Football Team currentteam parameter articles]]
Result: delete ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 October 29]]
* [[:Category:Modular firearms]]
charlotte 👸♥📱 18:14, 5 November 2024 (UTC) Please add the following: Result: reverse merge ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3]]
* [[:Category:Achiridae]] to [[:Category:American soles]]
Thanks and God bless. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 13:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC) Please add the following: Result: redirect ; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 3]]
* REDIRECT [[:Category:Online-only games]] to [[:Category:Multiplayer online games]]
Thanks and God bless. —Compassionate727 (T·C) 17:22, 14 November 2024 (UTC) |
Deleted category still remains on pages...
editLearAvia Lear Fan (and I'd *suspect* possibly other pages) still has Category:Pages using the JsonConfig extension, deleted earlier today, at the bottom of it, unremovable as well. Any ideas on what caused this? - The Bushranger One ping only 20:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Scratch that - editing the page made the deleted category vanish. - The Bushranger One ping only 20:15, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
- Caching. It used to hold everything containing
<ref>...</ref>, which as you would imagine is millions of pages. I am not surprised that in millions of pages some are still catching up. A null edit (as you discovered while I was typing this) fixes the error. HouseBlaster (talk • he/they) 20:17, 9 November 2024 (UTC)
U.S. Presidents categories
editThis edit removed categories which haven't been cleared (see Category:Low-importance U.S. Presidents articles as an example). I've fixed the banner and some categories. After the pages start to clear we can see which pages still need to have their link fixed. These categories should be resorted to the list so this isn't forgotten. Gonnym (talk) 12:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- @The Bushranger: could you pls have a look. Ymblanter (talk) 16:07, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
- Ah, those were categories that populated from a template, I think, and thus they needed to process through the job queue and/or be force-refreshed to clear. It looks like they're all cleared now? - The Bushranger One ping only 22:52, 10 November 2024 (UTC)
Category:Presidency of Donald Trump
editPlease can an admin add the following:
Result: rename
; [[Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2024 November 6]]
* [[:Category:Presidency of Donald Trump]] to [[:Category:First presidency of Donald Trump]]
Separate merge request section for Speedy?
editI'm seeing a repeated problem with speedy merges being listed in what is only a rename section. It's not helped by some of the renames requiring redirects to be deleted to be processed. When processing nominations it's often hard to spot the difference in the raw text. Would it help if the nomination page could split these out in the first place so that confusion is reduced? Timrollpickering (talk) 10:50, 14 November 2024 (UTC)