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Nicole Kuzmichová

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 18:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Alexandr Sinicyn

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Non-notable figure skater; fails WP:NSKATE. Bgsu98 (Talk) 16:59, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Li Kai-jie

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Having international caps for a country with no impact on the sport at large, is no longer a free pass with regards to notability. With a handful of caps and a very short club career, this would need substantial sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 08:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - searched news articles for him and only found one article. Does not appear to have played many professional games. starship.paint (talk / cont) 12:00, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 20:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Eita Kasagawa

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Deleted before. Career consisting of 472 minutes play time. No sources (including ja:wiki) to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 08:01, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:38, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 11:08, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he apparently played in only 12 professional football matches in total and not in any major teams. Not prominent. starship.paint (talk / cont) 11:32, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mohamed Al-Hamar

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Declined prod. Could not find any sources in google news and google books. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT and WP:NOLY. I would reconsider if there is anything in Arabic. LibStar (talk) 05:16, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ryoo Chang-kil

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 03:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 1966 FIFA World Cup squads#North Korea as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:37, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 1966 FIFA World Cup squads#North Korea. His Korean Wikipedia article is also a stub. Could not find news articles on him. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:29, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

João Urbano

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, only one primary source which contains basic biographical info. MSportWiki (talk) 01:04, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Aaron Lim

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, completely unsourced. MSportWiki (talk) 00:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, agreed, fails WP:BIO

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Scott Dale

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Ian Moss (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dave Marland

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 19:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arthur Motta

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Article does not currently meet WP:GNG for a stand-alone biography. The references provided are primarily primary sources (club websites, match reports, and statistics), which are not sufficient to demonstrate the player's notability. — MimsMENTOR ^talk 13:47, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Draftify. The player actually plays football matches every week, and it's a pretty good chance more sources will turn up in the next 6-7 months, unless the sources are unearthed already. Geschichte (talk) 15:11, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Drafify - not currently notable, but might be in future. Giant Snowman 16:17, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep or Draftify – I found an article in the Brazilian media covering his good time in Bulgaria [1], as well as coverage from major portals about his previous transfers [2], [3]. As Geschichte commented, in a short time WP:GNG should be uncontested. Svartner (talk) 16:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Miloš Riečičiar

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Appears to have had a 33-day professional football career, playing 6 games in the Slovak top league in July-August 2010. No indication of significant coverage then or since. C 679 13:09, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 13:12, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per nomination. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:23, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

James Fulton (English cricketer)

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Non notable by the look of it. Amateur University cricketer is no longer deemed notable by default and sourcing is a cricket database and school website. Neither meet the current standards for inclusion. Spartaz ^Humbug! 12:23, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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A sample of mentions in The Times (there are more)- via Wikipedia Library including:

Cox, Rupert (18 April 1998). "Students grant initiative to White". The Times. No. 66179. p. 34. - Mentions Fulton as Captain of team and mentions possibly poor decision to insert opposition.

Bailey, Jack (17 April 1997). "Fulton and Scrini stage rescue mission". The Times. No. 65866. p. 56.

Bailey, Jack (18 April 1997). "Students sent down with all guns blazing". The Times. No. 65867. p. 45.
Thicknesse, John (10 May 1997). "Oxford let down by batting frailties". The Times. No. 65886. p. 47.

presumably other British Broadsheets (i.e. Telegraph and Guardian) will also have similar.

Also mentioned in Wisdens for 1998 and 1999 (1998 "James Fulton...made polished first class fifties" and that captaincy handed over to him for 1998) together with match reports.Nigel Ish (talk) 13:36, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

added a few more details and sources to the article - It should be noted that he was captain for a season, which does raise his importance a little.Nigel Ish (talk) 15:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. A fairly substantial first-class career, covered by reliable sources. AA (talk) 14:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Roman Babyak

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His professional career lasted only 50 mins and I can't find any suggestion of meeting WP:SPORTBASIC. The best source that I can find is Bibrka Gov, a local source that mentions him a few times in a match report. Match reports aren't generally seen as significant coverage. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Comment – Match reports aren't generally seen as significant coverage. As long as the news article focuses on a specific footballer and describes them in signficant detail, that might be fine in my opinion. I can say such an example is this one. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:30, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Would this work? [4] Ceriy (talk) 02:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I guess so, but only one source is not sufficient. It also looks like a blogspot to me... ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Although the article is written in prose, most of the content is just regurgitating basic stats about the player (e.g. date of debut, number of appearances) so I would say it's fairly light coverage. As Clara says above, this is only one source and multiple sources are usually preferred. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 17:50, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That is a routine transactional announcement and so fails GNG, and furthermore is straight from the governing football federation so is not independent. JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete. Zero sources of IRS SIGCOV identified. JoelleJay (talk) 18:30, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Pavlo Shostka

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This article may look well sourced at first glance but, in actual fact, it's just a WP:REFBOMB of database sources, none of which confer any notability per WP:SPORTBASIC. His 8 matches in the third tier of Ukraine might provide a very weak presumption of notability but, ultimately, Shostka needs to have significant coverage from independent sources to have an article. Looking at Ukrainian Wikipedia and online, the best that I can find are Desna 1 and Desna 2, both of which are published by his then-employer so are neither independent nor reliable (see WP:RS and WP:IS). Please delete unless independent and significant coverage can be found for Shostka. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Zdravko Dermenov

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Dermenov has had an unremarkable career to date and the article is currently nothing more than a stats stub. Blitz was the best source in my searches but it's only a match report for a match in which he received a red card. Other sources like Novsport and Gong are only trivial mentions. No indication of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:06, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. More so an unremarkable, he barely had any career at all. Geschichte (talk) 15:16, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Alexander Khateeb

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Fails WP:BIO, has no notable achievements under WP:GNG and WP:NMOTORSPORT, only two sources and both are deadlinks. MSportWiki (talk) 10:48, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Agree, clearly and signally fails WP:GNG, Best Alexandermcnabb (talk) 13:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aldo Guna

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Badly sourced BLP with no evidence of meeting WP:SPORTBASIC. The best source found in my search was Soccernet, which is just a squad list mention. I have searched under "Aldo Guna" and "Erald Guna". Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 11:08, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 12:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryan Latham

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His soccer career was not notable at all, having only played 172 minutes in Revolution, as well as a friendly goal that can't be the basis of a Wikipedia article. I don't think the local news source cuts it GNG-wise, as it is an everyday piece of coverage with the majority being a Q&A interview. It would take much more making this meet WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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'Redirect to All-time New England Revolution roster as possible search term. Giant Snowman 10:59, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect – Per above. Svartner (talk) 12:05, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Serxhio Emini

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Played 32 minutes in Albania’s highest league, continuing in the semi-pro second tier. The source currently cited in the article is very short and far from significant. Neither is this. [ https://www.panorama.com.al/sport/serxho-emini-me-bylisin-do-te-shkelqej-edhe-ne-superiore/ This] is 2/3 quotes from Emini, so doesn’t pass muster either. Geschichte (talk) 07:46, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yaroslav Matyukhin

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Poorly sourced article. I dream of horses (Hoofprints) (Neigh at me) 06:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, fails all notability guidelines. Geschichte (talk) 08:27, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:57, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Carlos Ortega (footballer, born 1997)

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Played 2 matches and then disappeared. The only decent source that I can find is Noroeste, which is little more than a trivial mention. No evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:18, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete as I have not been able to find any sources beyond the one raised by Spiderone, and automatic databases which only contain trivial mentions. The one human-created article doesn't meet WP:SIGCOV as it's mainly about the team, he's literally just listed next to a bullet point. At this point in time, he doesn't come close in both English and Spanish media to reaching WP:BIO or WP:SPORTSBASIC from my search. MolecularPilot ^{🧪️✈️} 04:04, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Speedy delete, does not make a credible claim to notability. The creator seems like one of the worst and most problematic creators, per the flood of deletion notices on his talk page and being indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 08:38, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:51, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 12:03, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jovanni Hurtado

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Had a brief pro career but I'm not seeing enough coverage for WP:SPORTBASIC. The best that I could find was Medio Tiempo, which mentions him once in the main text and once in the squad list. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:05, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rafael Escalante

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Despite 164 mins of professional football, I can find no evidence of a passing of WP:SPORTBASIC. In fact, I can only find database sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:58, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Besian Çeliku

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Potentially fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTBASIC. My own searches yield only database sources. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 21:54, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete, obviously fails said guidelines. Geschichte 23:37, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:50, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Naveen Perwani

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Non-notable snooker player. Doesn't meet GNG. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 20:01, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Speedy Keep as he is a bronze medalist of the 2002 Asian Games (see) — Mister Banker (talk) 21:45, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Please enlighten me on why this is a 'speedy keep'. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 22:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep He won 2 bronze medals at the 2002 Asian Games.--گل زیب (talk) 22:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Which has nothing to do with WP:GNG Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

That doesn't even come close to being notable. He's never even been in the top 128 players of snooker in the world. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 00:00, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete I can only find routine coverage of results, no evidence that WP:GNG is met. Please ping me if good sources are identified. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 01:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Good to go for Pakistan, his medals in Asian games makes him notable to be on Wikipedia. Muneebll (talk) 21:20, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
How so? The Asian Games aren't the Olympics. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 21:22, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
In context of Pakistan it is where winning medals in international games is a rare feat. Muneebll (talk) 21:26, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep Asian Games medalist is notable enough. and when I google his name i see enough articles about him in Pakistani media. Sports2021 (talk) 02:35, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Theodore Travis

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Fails WP:GNG. No secondary sources that show WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 10:49, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Saoud Al-Nuaimi

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Had only a very brief career and no evidence of WP:SPORTBASIC. Best that I can find in Arabic is FilGoal, which is just a database source. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 13:22, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, only 308 playing minutes confirmed by Soccerway. Geschichte (talk) 17:47, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:08, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Abdulrahman Mohamed (footballer, born 2002)

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Lacks sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Only played 14 matches in the Qatari league. Article looks very similar to those created by sockpuppet abuser Mhsohaib (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). Geschichte (talk) 09:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Youn Young-seong

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played 7 minutes in the K-League and 215 minutes in the J2 league. The Japanese Wikipedia has mostly primary sources, though it has the one sports.khan.co.kr article, which looks like fluff to me. It has words like "grow rapidly" and "absorbing the detailed and fast-paced soccer unique to South America like a sponge" when the reality is he never played a single competitive match in South America. Geschichte (talk) 09:43, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:14, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 22:07, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Malcolm Davies (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Kari Saukkonen

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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John Cosnett

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:29, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep. Having won the British Open and being the first player to have been paid by the UK government to play darts, Cosnett has coverage of its time - Sunday Mercury, Black Country Evening Mail for same, Herald Express for same - for this matter, there's a heap of other regional papers who cover him for being the only player at the time paid by the government for his sporting career. Further coverage of him "rounding off his year in style" in the Black Country Evening Mail by winning the British Open, the national darting competition at the time. There's also the Black Country Evening Mail covering him switching careers to enter the pub business (which isn't quite about his sporting achievements, but it'd be weird for a regional newspaper to cover some non-notable bloke applying for a pub license...). I don't have access to the BNA but there's also a story in the Wolverhampton Express and Star entitled "Darts star John off to seek fame", and in the same publication for him not paying his taxes - again, not really about his achievements, but it's hard to think some random unnotable would get the same coverage, let alone labelled a "darts ace". I'm seeing well enough coverage from his heyday to merit keeping the article. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 17:55, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mick Manning (darts player)

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Dean Allsop

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Reg Harding

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 22:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Jack Vance (tennis)

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Fails to meet notability or significant coverage criteria. Played 2 ATP Tour matches in doubles and lost both. Highest ranking of 765. Shrug02 (talk) 18:08, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - unsurprisingly, I can't find any WP:SIGCOV Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 00:14, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Aaron Chandler

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Prod was formerly tried. A career consisting of a cup game, 13 games in the USL First Division and some failed trials is a very weak claim to notability, fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 17:23, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Fails WP:GNG. No secondary coverage that shows [[WP:SIGCOV}} Demt1298 (talk) 19:10, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Stephen Akers

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Fully fails WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. During a WP:BEFORE, no significant coverage was found. And why would there be, when he only played one cup game for Notts County as well as brief spells in obscure locales. Kept before (twice) due to a guideline that was scrapped and no longer exists. Geschichte (talk) 09:43, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete, as per the nomation. JustARandomEditor123 (talk) 11:04, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete: Fails WP:GNG, no secondary coverage that shows WP:SIGCOV. Demt1298 (talk) 19:09, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:13, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yu Tokiwa

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When one season in Singapore is all this player has done, notability is very questionable. Sources are lacking significant in-depth information about the player as well as independence (all Gekisaka sources in tha ja:wiki version are routine), and I don't think one piece in Town News is enough to make an encyclopedic article. Geschichte (talk) 05:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinichi Shuto

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No sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT and not remotely close to a claim to notability, having played 2 cup games for J League teams. Creator is blocked indefinitely. Geschichte (talk) 20:49, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:42, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 17:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - he played 2 professional football matches. That is not a prominent career. starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:40, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Jamie Vance

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No WP:SIGCOV that I could find. Most articles other than this one are just a passing mention. Other results are just tennis databases etc. Barely meets WP:NTENNIS (was an alternate at 2022 Delray Beach Open and 2022 Sofia Open) but fails WP:SIGCOV. RachelTensions (talk) 13:55, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. As per nom. Shrug02 (talk) 22:14, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sho Kamimura

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Rightfully prodded by User:Piotrus in 2023. Played very briefly in Japan’s second league, India’s second league and in Singapore. Nothing usable in ja:wiki, no sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator is indefinitely blocked. Geschichte (talk) 07:45, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: One or two goals isn't the stuff of notability, playing in the third league is very likely non-notable. The lack of sourcing in both the Ja and En wiki articles are also indicative of non-notability. I can't find any sourcing about this person. Oaktree b (talk) 14:27, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete this footballer does not seem notable. My search yielded nothing substantial that meets the GNG.Chanel Dsouza (talk) 14:51, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. Non-notable ball kicker. Not everyone who dabbled with professional sports is notable. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 05:31, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete. One source on the page and it is only a data entry with no significant coverage on the subject. I can not find sufficient coverage to establish notability. Fails to meet WP:SPORTCRIT. RangersRus (talk) 15:48, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hiroto Arai

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Played briefly in Japan’s third league. Nothing usable in ja:wiki, the longest source mentions Arai in half a sentence. Therefore no sources to meet WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Creator (Simione) is active in AFD, what do you think? Geschichte (talk) 07:50, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:13, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sulaiman Ismail

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No notable career achievements that can be verified. News coverage is nonexistent. He is the brother of Rocket Ismail, however per WP:BLPRELATED, that is irrelevant. 162 etc. (talk) 22:05, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete My search didn't find significant independent coverage that meets WP:GNG and the article has none. His football career was not WP notable nor were his forays into competitive martial arts. Papaursa (talk) 22:37, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails WP:GNG. Lekkha Moun (talk) 06:41, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kim Ho (footballer, born 1998)

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Deleted before. Very weak claim to notability with 5 games/169 minutes in Japan's third league, no significant and independent sources (including ja:wiki), fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 20:12, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't know this user, but the deletion notices on their page suggest they had a habit of creating pages as soon as a player crossed the white line into Japanese third division football, even if that turned out to be the only time in their career. Some users were prolific under the old WP:NFOOTY guideline in creating perma-stubs like this with just a link to a database, as if notability were to be WP:INHERITED from a (still minor) league or club. Simply put, right now, any page on Wikipedia should WP:GNG or just GO. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:52, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:40, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails even WP:FOOTYN (third league) and does not meet WP:GNG.Marcocanol (talk) 16:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Danil Novikov

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Fails WP:GNG (WP:NBASIC).--Анатолий Росдашин (talk) 17:34, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete I don't know the local media profile of Yenisey or the Russian second tier, but presumably it's focused around players whose input was more than four minutes [5] at that level. No argument has been made for WP:GNG notability as an individual. Unknown Temptation (talk) 21:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Manuel Kanté

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This is one of many articles created by Zombie433, who has since been banned due to adding dubious stories. I cannot find any significant coverage for this men's footballer, who has never played at professional level, to meet WP:GNG. The sources provided are either match reports and routine transfer announcements. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 14:48, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Pages should be judged on the subject and not the creator, but I concur that this is embellished. I removed remarks that he opted to play internationally for Mali, because the source didn't say that. I don't think this man got anywhere near international football. The infobox says three games for Southend United, which could have tipped the balance to keep, but the text only mentions a trial. I would usually use Soccerbase for English professional clubs in the 2000s, and it has no record of a Manuel Kanté playing. Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:04, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Records are also non-existent for his 2004-05 season with Falkirk - in which they won promotion to the Scottish Premier League. Finding one of three games from 45 that season in which he appeared would be a thankless task [6] Unknown Temptation (talk) 22:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete: Fails WP:GNG. Most of his career was spent with lower level teams with no evidence of winning any major trophies. Current resources link to mostly non-existent articles currently and only one is focused on subject of article. Does not have secondary sources to prove WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 14:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC) Demt1298 (talk) 14:34, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 21:12, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shinji Morita

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The claim to notability, playing 15 games in Japan's second league 10 years ago, is weak. The sources (including in the ja:wiki) are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. The creator of the article is globally locked. Geschichte (talk) 08:08, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete– Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:39, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ryang Hyon-ju

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 23:00, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - I've found some coverage about this player in Japanese, including this interview article 1, and two other articles from Gekisaka 2, 3. I think they're enough to pass WP:GNG, especially for a North Korean footballer. -- Lâm (talk) 03:56, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep per sources above which show notability. Giant Snowman 19:32, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep – Per Lâm. WP:SIGCOV from japanese media. Svartner (talk) 14:38, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ro Hak-su

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Article fails WP:GNG and not updated since 2017. Simione001 (talk) 22:58, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 2015 AFC Asian Cup squads#North Korea. -- Lâm (talk) 03:39, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 19:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 2015 AFC Asian Cup squads#North Korea – Per above. Svartner (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ri Yong-jin

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:03, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:32, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – I just noticed his name is linked on 2009, 2014, and 2019 North Korean parliamentary election pages. However, I can't prove if this footballer being elected to them after retirement from sports. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 12:23, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Rim Hwa-young

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 21:01, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect to 1992 AFC Asian Cup squads#North Korea. -- Lâm (talk) 03:37, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Redirect as above. Giant Snowman 19:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Redirect to 1992 AFC Asian Cup squads#North Korea – Per above. Svartner (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

List of Major League Baseball career putouts as a pitcher leaders

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Similar situation to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Major League Baseball career double plays as a right fielder leaders, which resulted in the lists by position being trimmed and merged to List of Major League Baseball career double plays leaders. The top 100 players at each position, split into their own articles, and then a list of other hall of famers at their positions and relevant stats, is more narrow a scope than is appropriate. All of these are basically copies of leader tables (link) from Baseball Reference. The top 100 players at each position, in their own lists, is excessive, and Wikipedia is not a database. Proposing that the relevant lists be trimmed and merged to their own sections at List of Major League Baseball career putouts leaders. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:34, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Support Merge of all, per nom and for the same reasons as in the double play merger. Rgrds. --BX (talk) 23:54, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

So, is List of Major League Baseball career putouts leaders the Merge target article that is being proposed here? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 03:19, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Based on them saying per nom and that being the target I mentioned, I do believe so @Liz. Hey man im josh (talk) 03:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Yes, I just wanted to confirm this. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 09:15, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough :) Hey man im josh (talk) 11:59, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Merge all to List of Major League Baseball career putouts leaders as proposed. For future reference, WP:PM might be the way to go for similar merge proposals. I was under the impression that AfD is for attempting to delete an article or for redirect attempts that have been reverted. Left guide (talk) 03:50, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kumpei Kakuta

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Unfortunately, I don't see this player meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT, spending one season in Singapore and then moving on to the fifth tier of Japanese football. Geschichte (talk) 20:13, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: fails GNG, I'm finding only passing mentions in much larger articles (and not many of them, either). AntiDionysius (talk) 20:48, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:31, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:31, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iikka Miettinen

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Not a notable football manager, WP:TOOSOON at best. Held positions such as analyst, U19 assistant, assistant and U19 coach. The sources are not independent or significant; the YLE piece is not about Miettinen, but about Roberto Mancini with Miettinen's reports about the manager. The Aamulehti piece is about an U17 club tournament, there's nothing notable about that. Geschichte (talk) 20:11, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Fails in WP:GNG. Svartner (talk) 14:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Brooklyn Kabongolo

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Fails WP:GNG. Sources are primary sources that do not show notability. Only has 9 appearances at 5th tier of English soccer. Demt1298 (talk) 18:40, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete – Per nom. Just primary sources of a footballer from lower levels. Svartner (talk) 14:30, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Iván Varga

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This claim to notability, playing a total of 620 minutes in Argentina's league, is weak. The only possible WP:SIRS material I found is ESPN Argentina which tells that he debuted for Arsenal de Sarandí in 2015. Corresponding article on Spanish Wikipedia is an unsourced dumping ground. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 13:37, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete, too little to ascertain notability. Geschichte (talk) 17:52, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:30, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Vakha Keligov

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Fails WP:GNG (WP:NBASIC). Closest I could get to finding sources that establish notability for this football player are databases and statistics, which do not constitute in-depth, significant coverage of the subject. Nothing much outside of that in Russian either. ~ Tails Wx 03:50, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Mario Teqja

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Failure of WP:SPORTCRIT and WP:GNG. Modest career with 8 games in Albania's highest league and several seasons in the semi-pro second tier. Some unsubstantiated reports about big-club scouting; I could not find a single piece of evidence for that. What I found during a WP:BEFORE was duplications of a transfer announcement [7] [8], a short and insignificant piece [9] and a piece about Erzeni's squad where Teqja is mentioned in passing [10]. Geschichte (talk) 22:24, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete per lack of sufficient notability. Ktrimi991 (talk) 17:35, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:29, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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The result was delete‎. Hey man im josh (talk) 20:20, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sam Sather

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I am unable to find sufficient in-depth coverage of this low-level college football player (NAIA) to meet WP:GNG. JTtheOG (talk) 19:30, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Simply fails WP:SPORTCRIT. There is no significant coverage, not even one, that can be used to consider keeping this entry. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 17:45, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete lower-level college football player with not significant coverage. Best, GPL93 (talk) 18:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Derk Telnekes

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:23, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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I oppose the deletion of the article as the subject has received coverage from secondary sources, among them his defeat to McGeeney in the Lakeside World Championship being covered by Sky Sports. JamesVilla44 (talk) 22:11, 6 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

JamesVilla44, please bring some of these sources into the discussion so that they can be assessed. Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 07:31, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete: Sources 2 and 3 are simply match reports where this person is mentioned. There are no stories about the individual; I can't find any and what's used in the article isn't extensive coverage. Oaktree b (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So the interviews don’t count as stories about the individual then JamesVilla44 (talk) 10:53, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
No, those are primary sources. Oaktree b (talk) 12:43, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete A search in google news only found coverage in darts-related media. Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 23:33, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

It does feel like the deletions are just going to become a runaway train at this rate. JamesVilla44 (talk) 10:56, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Robbie Widdows

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 05:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete. Other than the types of sources like the one cited in the article, nothing comes up to establish notability. Procyon117 (talk) 13:07, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Some coverage, although none of it is spectacular: Hartfield Gazette, Western Daily Press, Ealing & Action Gazette, Ruislip and Northwood Gazette. BeanieFan11 (talk) 03:44, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Luc Peters

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 05:55, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Comment unlike the many other darts players that came here because of mass-rejected prods, this person actually has news articles about him and not just a place in stats databases like the others. [11] [12]. I'll comment back with a !vote once I finish my WP:BEFORE. Molecular Pilot 06:42, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
It's just routine reporting of him getting a tour card. 20-30 players do this annually. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 12:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. A search in google news found 2 relevant sources but they are from darts related media. LibStar (talk) 00:03, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ekaterina Yashina

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Fails notability and significant coverage criteria. This is a tennis player who has never won a WTA Tour level title or even got close, never reached a Grand Slam tournament main draw and the few citations on the page are merely bog standard stat profiles. There is no significant coverage shown. I did PROD this but apparently that has been done before and challenged hence I'm going this route now. Shrug02 (talk) 21:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - In tennis, the criterion is that a player must have competed in the main draw of one of the top professional tournaments (WTA Tour tournaments (WTA Finals, WTA 1000, WTA 250 or WTA 250 events)) and have won at least one championship. Winning a WTA Challenger level tournament or any of the ITF W50, W75, or W100 tournaments starting in 2023 ($50,000+ between 2008 and 2022, $25,000+ between 1978 and 2007) or any WTA 125K tournament. This rule applies to both singles and doubles players. Player!!! As a result, this player meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 12:08, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you know all this then why don't you add the content and citations to prove it? Even if what you say is the case (and I have no reason to say it isn't), then at the moment the article still lacks significant coverage references. Shrug02 (talk) 11:17, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Meeting WP:NTENNIS is only an indicator that significant coverage is likely to exist. You would still need to prove that WP:SIGCOV exists for the article to meet notability criteria. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:35, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete Fails to meet WP:SIGCOV. SlowPokesB (talk) 16:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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.*[13] <[14]< [15] I found these resources. User:Vecihi91 12:26, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete - the coverage located is routine sports reporting and match summaries. There is nothing that we can build a meaningful biography from. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 12:11, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - I feel like I’m repeating myself in every AfD: the individual who passes WP:NTENNIS is presumed to have had significant coverage, but it’s not proof of that. BLPs almost always require both SIGCOV and a particular rule for their career. If you find proof, please let us know. Bearian (talk) 02:02, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Ekaterina Ovcharenko

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Fails notability and significant coverage criteria. Tennis player who has never won a main draw title, never played in a Grand Slam tournament main draw, never been ranked in the top 250 in the world and no significant coverage of her is included in the sparse references. Shrug02 (talk) 12:53, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - In tennis, the criterion is that a player must have competed in the main draw of one of the top professional tournaments (WTA Tour tournaments (WTA Finals, WTA 1000, WTA 250 or WTA 250 events)) and have won at least one championship. Winning a WTA Challenger level tournament or any of the ITF W50, W75, or W100 tournaments starting in 2023 ($50,000+ between 2008 and 2022, $25,000+ between 1978 and 2007) or any WTA 125K tournament. This rule applies to both singles and doubles players. Player!!! The player She won Open Andrézieux-Bouthéon 42 ITF W75 Tournaments. As a result, this player meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 12:04, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you know all this then why don't you add the content and citations to prove it? Even if what you say is the case (and I have no reason to say it isn't), then at the moment the article still lacks significant coverage references. Shrug02 (talk) 10:44, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:SIGCOV. SlowPokesB (talk) 16:57, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Mohammed Awaji

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Deleted before. No indication of meeting WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Created by notorious sockpuppet user and block evader. Geschichte (talk) 12:39, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 14:56, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Davy Richardson

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 08:18, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Fails WP:SPORTSCRIT. LibStar (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Significant coverage here. BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:56, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That source may count but would need mulitple sources to establish notability. LibStar (talk) 05:52, 11 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Radka Zelníčková

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Does not meet notability or significant coverage criterias. Shrug02 (talk) 22:23, 1 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete – I found this article but it doesn't seem to be enough. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 11:15, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep - She won first W40 now W50 title at the doubles tournament in Pazardzhik Cup. meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 14:50, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
That is like a club cricket or football team winning a local league. Also there is still the lack of significant coverage issue. Shrug02 (talk) 14:32, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Keep~~ - In tennis, the criterion is that a player must have competed in the main draw of one of the top professional tournaments (WTA Tour tournaments (WTA Finals, WTA 1000, WTA 250 or WTA 250 events)) and have won at least one championship. Winning a WTA Challenger level tournament or any of the ITF W50, W75, or W100 tournaments starting in 2023 ($50,000+ between 2008 and 2022, $25,000+ between 1978 and 2007) or any WTA 125K tournament. This rule applies to both singles and doubles players. Player!!! As a result, this player meets the criteria.User:Vecihi91 12:10, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
If you know all this then why don't you add the content and citations to prove it? Even if what you say is the case (and I have no reason to say it isn't), then at the moment the article still lacks significant coverage references. Shrug02 (talk) 10:45, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete Fails to meet WP:SIGCOV. SlowPokesB (talk) 16:58, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete - I found routine match reporting like Teraz and Sportky but this is not enough for WP:GNG. Failing GNG is far more relevant than a weak NTENNIS pass. Spiderone^{(Talk to Spider)} 18:50, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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@asilvering How much more thorough and clear does it need to be? After a week 4 people say it fails significant coverage and just 1 says "keep" but fails to back that opinion up by adding anything to an article which indeed clearly fails WP:SIGCOV. What is the point of the AFD process? I've had articles with far more citations deleted yet these tennis ones seem like the holy grail that must not be touched no matter how poorly sourced or non-notable they are. Prediction time - "keep due to no consnsus" will be the eventual outcome. Waste of time. Shrug02 (talk) 00:16, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Shrug02, we regularly relist discussions where opinion is divided and this was just a first relisting. It's more important to get this discussion closed right than quickly. What's the hurry? Liz ^{Read! Talk!} 23:51, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Liz I gave you my full answer on your talk page. All I will add here is that opinion is not divided. One editor is saying keep to all these tennis AFDs, even going as far as to unilaterally close one as "keep" while all other opinions are for delete. The aforementioned editor has opposed PROD and AFD without actually adding any significant coverage to any of the articles and just aggressively quotes tennis rules, votes multiple times and lists minor tournaments as justification for keep. So in conclusion there is no hurry, I am simply frustrated that one person is being allowed to filibuster the process when if you actually look at the articles in question they clearly fail to meet the required standard. Shrug02 (talk) 11:01, 10 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete While Zelnickova won 1 W40 (now a W50) doubles tournament, WP:NTENNIS is a part of the global sports notability guideline and its FAQ at Wikipedia:Notability (sports)/FAQ says: "The topic-specific notability guidelines described on this page do not replace the general notability guideline". WP:GNG requires multiple independent, significant coverage in reliable sources. I don't see that, either in my searches or the article here. Everything that comes up can be categorized either as passing mentions in the scope of something else or just routine match recaps (mostly local coverage in Slovakian tournaments). Generally, it's very tough to get significant coverage based on just winning low-tier doubles tournaments in a predominantly singles sport - and this case (along with others nominated right now) proves it yet again. She might get there in the future, but as of right now, it's WP:TOOSOON. Jovanmilic97 (talk) 12:27, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Kyohei Suzaki

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Rightfully prodded by User:Spiderone back in 2009. The claim to notability, playing 6 games in Japan's second league and 1 cup game, is very weak. The sources (including those found in ja:wiki) are not enough to rectify that and as such he fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Geschichte (talk) 07:15, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:01, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Marshall James

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:14, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Comment: as a former WDF World Championship runner-up and World Masters semi-finalist, there appears to be a great deal of significant coverage of the subject in Welsh (Llanelli Star, South Wales Echo) and other (Liverpool Echo, Aberdeen Evening Express) papers, but a lot of it is hidden behind a paywall. If I can get access to these papers later in the week I'll assess the coverage and update my vote; if anyone else has access to them it may be worth a look. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:52, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Registering a keep vote in light of the below comment, but will update further if I get granted access to the newspaper archive for the aforementioned articles. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 21:53, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. Significant coverage here and although my BNA access has expired, here's a story titled "Top of the World: Marshall James", which is almost certainly sigcov. He was second-best at the world championships! BeanieFan11 (talk) 19:01, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a six paragraph article that summarises a six year career really "significant coverage"? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 21:21, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Is a 300+ word article on the then-second-best darts player in the world, as well as what appears to be a feature on 'Top of the World: Marshall James', count for notability? Of course it does. BeanieFan11 (talk) 21:41, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. Are you seriously suggesting he was better than Phil Taylor? Two articles do not make significant coverage, especially when one of which you have admitted you have no idea what it even is. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 23:02, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You keep describing him as being the "second-best darts player in the world" and this is just categorically not true. – I'll admit I'm not super familiar with darts, but didn't James finish as the runner-up at the World Championships? Wouldn't being runner-up at the World Championships be second best in the world? And two articles can absolutely be significant coverage; the general notability guideline says that's all that's required for notability (two pieces of coverage). What do you think the odds are that a story titled, "Top of the World: Marshall James", is not significant coverage? BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:11, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
He finished runner-up at a (not the) World Championship and then proceeded to do absolutely nothing of note ever again. Does a darts player from Llanelli having potentially one article in a Llanelli newspaper, and a six paragraph article on a darts website, really count for notability? All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Does having significant coverage from two independent outlets for a runner-up at a World Darts Championship count for notability? Absolutely if you go by GNG, which only requires two significant sources. BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:27, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
So, to keep up-to-date. That's one "significant" source. And one source you freely admit you haven't read. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 00:37, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We're allowed to use common sense. The odds that both the 'Top of the World' source is insignificant and that there's no further coverage of him anywhere is incredibly small, especially given that Ser! has found paywalled articles in four additional newspapers. That you're unable to answer whether you've done any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all for over one hundred darts articles you've rapidly nominated or proposed for deletion is concerning as well. BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:04, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Nice personal attack there. Not content with doing it on my own talk page you now choose to do it here too! All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Pointing out that you've refused on three occasions to answer the basic question of whether or not you've done a BEFORE search is not a personal attack... BeanieFan11 (talk) 01:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
You assuming that I haven't, and constantly repeating the claim, is a personal attack. What on earth makes you think I haven't? Because you found that the British library has an article in the Llanelli Post about him from 27 years ago? 🤣 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 09:02, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@ItsKesha: What on earth makes you think I haven't? – because I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that the articles are old, and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you responded that I need to AGF – and then I asked "Are you doing any sort of WP:BEFORE search at all?" – and you told me to get off your talk page – and then here you called it a personal attack, and when asked ... you responded that "What on earth makes you think I haven't? 🤣" – this absolute refusal to answer the question while nominating / proposing hundreds of articles for deletion is disruptive. BeanieFan11 (talk) 15:12, 29 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
OK 👍 All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 01:14, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

This is the entirety of the BNA article, content on James bolded:
[D]arts ace Marshall James added another trophy to his impressive collection recently - after winning a world championship. Marshall was a member of the Wales short man squad that won the world championship in Perth, Sydney, recently. Another player from the area Eric Burden was also in the side with the others being Sean Palfrey of Newport and Martin Phillips from North Wales. With 35 countries taking part Wales beat a star studded England side in final by nine legs to six. Wales came away with three gold medals and one bronze. Marshall lost in the semi-final of the Embassy Gold Cup singles on Saturday to world number 1 Mervin King 2-1. Another Welsh player Shaun [sic] Palfrey went on to take the title beating King 2-0 in the final. Marshall was recognized for his achievement this week when he was chosen as winner of the Walter Hughes Cup, one of the Brin Isaac Memorial Fund awards.

I'm not convinced ~4 sentences in an un-bylined hyper-local blurb announcing his darts competition results for that week counts toward GNG. JoelleJay (talk) 18:15, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Neutral - My main concern here is that DartsNews is not obviously a reliable source and some work needs to be done to establish whether it is or isn't. My real sticking point on any bio article is "can we write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject", and if Dartsnews is reliable then probably we can. BeanieFan11 - any views on this? FOARP (talk) 10:56, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- I really need to figure out how to get re-subscribed to the BNA; there appeared to be a decent bit of coverage there (highly likely enough to write a reliably-sourced encyclopaedia article, and not simply a database-entry, about the subject, I'd say)... As for Dartsnews, they appear to have an editing staff. BeanieFan11 (talk) 16:22, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Weak keep - Mostly just on AGF, give-keep-a-chance grounds. DartsNews gives sigcov but feels like a peripheral source even if it is a WP:NEWSORG. There is no BIO equivalent of WP:AUD and local coverage shouldn't be excluded entirely, so I see no reason to dismiss coverage just because it was in a Llanelli newspaper, but it is also borderline for WP:SIGCOV. The real question for me is "can we have an article that isn't just sports-stats", and we just about can. Since the internet archive is now working again (albeit slow) I did a little search there and I see that, except for mentioning him a couple of times when discussing other players, he isn't listed in this book about the top 50 darts players, so I think that safely answers the question of how great this guy was. FOARP (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

John Norman Jnr

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unnotable darts player, fails GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. All my warmest wishes, ItsKesha (talk) 18:12, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Keep. Notable as one of the few pro darts players from Canada, having represented his country at the World Cup of Darts, and has relevant coverage from Canada's national broadcaster CBC as a result - 1, 2, 3. ser! ^{(chat to me - see my edits)} 18:15, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Ri Myong-jun

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Article fails WP:GNG. Simione001 (talk) 01:57, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete or Redirect to 2007 FIFA U-17 World Cup squads#North Korea as WP:ATD. Svartner (talk) 02:23, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Weak keep Bits around and more on the web to digest, I found little bits with [16], [17], youtube, [18]. There appears to be more sources around on the internet about him which I can't be bothered to go through. The nature of his career shows there was interest in him and some reporters have picked up on that and reported it. You just need to go looking, an extensive WP:BEFORE hasn't been done here in my opinion. Govvy (talk) 09:07, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Considering that information about these North Korean players is almost impossible, here at least we have something. I'm going to withdraw my vote, I don't know if it's enough for WP:SIGCOV, but let's expand the discussion. Svartner (talk) 00:18, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Of the four sources, only the first seems to be decent. Source #2 is primary, Source #3 is against WP:LINKSTOAVOID, while Source #4 is a brief mention in match report. None of them pass WP:GNG in my opinion. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. Giant Snowman 19:08, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Delete per my reply to Govvy and Svartner. ⋆｡˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚｡⋆ 16:07, 31 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep - @GiantSnowman:, @Svartner:, I found [19], [20], and [21] among other sources which is decent for a North Korena player. Definitelyy has offline North Korean sources too. One of few North Korean players to have played professionally for a few European clubsm and has 5 goals in 9 games for the national team. Article needs improvement, not deletion. Thanks, Das osmnezz (talk) 08:56, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do people often say good sources for a North Korean footballer like the bar is lower for some reason? The nationality of the player isn't relevant and then also speculating about the apparent existence of offline sources. Simione001 (talk) 20:53, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Why do people often say good sources for a North Korean footballer like the bar is lower for some reason? – do you understand the situation of media in North Korea? Do you realize that they don't have real media? Why should they be treated with the same strictness as those from countries with extensive media? BeanieFan11 (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Simione001 I think you do a good job filtering these articles from North Korean players since the majority are in fact unable to be kept. But it is valid when something comes up to establish the minimum coverage. There is a little more tolerance throughout the context of the country's regime, where there is no independent media. Svartner (talk) 14:36, 8 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Arthur H. Marshall

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Ancestry.com and The Peak Seeker are not reliable. Highpointers.org is the official highpointing organization so should not be used here. The only seemingly reliable source here is The Oregonian. Unless more coverage can be found, I feel like Arthur H. Marshall's achievements are better discussed briefly in the highpointing article instead of in its own article as notability seems weak. The current state of the article is certainly not sufficient and is written poorly. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 15:22, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Delete per nom. Was not able to find additional reliable sources. DJ Cane _(he/him) (Talk) 16:17, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@DJ Cane:, please see current sourcing. Graywalls (talk) 20:23, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
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Leaning Keep

https://www.capecodtimes.com/story/news/2000/10/29/for-certain-class-climber-life/51015049007/

https://books.google.com/books?id=BZQSAQAAIAAJ

https://books.google.com/books?id=2vZvAAAAMAAJ

https://www.theday.com/news/20170425/reaching-the-top-of-america/

I believe the in-depth coverage on him in the Oregonian, and multiple sources crediting him with the first in the US to reach all the tops and receiving coverage multiple times spanning years apart is an indication of notability and I feel he meets Wikipedia:SPORTSPERSON

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Although I nominated the article for deletion, I think with some further improvements it can be kept with all these sources. KnowledgeIsPower9281 (talk) 22:33, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Tentative Keep per WP:HEY. I’d love for someone else to add the sources found to the article. Bearian (talk) 02:25, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Delete Per nominator, fails WP:GNG. Delete. Go4thProsper (talk) 15:10, 2 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Lee Du-haeng

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No secondary sources. Fails WP:NTRACK. Placed 32nd at one Olympics. Fails WP:BASIC. AusLondonder (talk) 16:36, 21 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Some coverage:
- "[2014 경주국제마라톤]서른에 입문 늦깎이 "아들 위해 뛰었다"" [[2014 Gyeongju International Marathon] A late bloomer who started at age 30 “I ran for my son”]. The Dong-a Ilbo (in Korean). October 20, 2014. (c. 220 words)
- "늦깎이 마라토너 고양시청 '이두행' 런던行 확정 - 경기신문" [Late bloomer marathon runner Goyang City Hall ‘Lee Du-haeng’]. KGNews. April 10, 2012. (c. 170 words)
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Comment: Also placed in the top 8 at continental championships. He did not take up athletics at age 30, but took up marathon near that age. Geschichte (talk) 06:23, 22 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Keep via coverage above plus more under subject's Korean name "이두행": "이두행". The bar for NBASIC is met. --Habst (talk) 13:04, 23 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Which pieces of coverage do you find when finding "more"? Geschichte (talk) 13:35, 27 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Geschichte, here are some examples:
"해남군청 육상팀 이두행 선수 2관왕" [Haenam County Office Track and Field Team Player Lee Du-haeng Wins Two Gold Medals] (in Korean).

"이두행, 男 마라톤 32위로 골인…장신권, 정진혁도 완주" [Lee Doo-haeng, Men's Marathon 32nd Place, Jang Shin-kwon, Jeong Jin-hyeok Also Finish] (in Korean).
--Habst (talk) 14:31, 28 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
None of those two articles are significant coverage Geschichte (talk) 20:22, 3 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Geschichte, how are the articles not significant, especially when combined with the above two as WP:NBASIC prong 1 allows for? --Habst (talk) 14:04, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
The "Haenam County Office" is not significant because the part about him is literally two sentences long. What do you think significant means? Geschichte (talk) 23:42, 9 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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Keep: Sources cited above seem ok, they are about this individual and are in RS. I think we have notability. Oaktree b (talk) 15:05, 30 October 2024 (UTC)[reply]
~~Delete~~. The two cited sources above are routine event results with at most three sentences of (again, routine) secondary coverage. Nowhere close to GNG. The sources mentioned earlier are not SIGCOV enough to overcome the requirement for SUSTAINED coverage. JoelleJay (talk) 00:02, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
- Sources from multiple years apart are not sustained coverage? BeanieFan11 (talk) 00:06, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  Oh I misread the marathons as being the same. I'll reconsider. JoelleJay (talk) 18:11, 4 November 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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