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Switch before Switch
Perhaps best known nowadays as the film that inspired Blake Edwards to write and direct the amusing 'Switch' with Ellen Barkin, this earlier comedy features the same idea of a shameless philanderer reincarnated in the body of a woman. Clocking in at close to two hours, 'Goodbye Charlie' takes an incredibly long time to warm up with over 25 minutes elapsing before the comedy really kicks in since the philanderer (in the woman's body) has amnesia at first. Once the film gets into the swing of things though, it is a decent ride. Debbie Reynolds does well acting tough and manly, casually ogling other women and so on. It is not as dynamic a performance as Barkin in 'Switch' (who nailed the mannerisms of her male self) as we never actually see much of Charlie before he is killed, but Reynolds is still dynamite. There are also several fascinating moments as he/she gets more used to being a woman, even allowing him/herself to be seduced. Additionally, in a daring move, he/she even tries to seduce his/her best friend, played by Tony Curtis. Speaking of which, Curtis does well with a tricky role here. At times, it seems like he is also about to fall for his macho best friend in a lady's body. The experience is let down by a tacked-on cop-out ending that fails to capitalise on all this sexual tension, but the film pokes enough at gender identity issues to remain interesting.
Off-beat, Silly, Charming and Down-right Twisted
I saw this movie for the first time over twenty years ago but could never remember the title. I saw it again on AMC and recognized it immediately, but my memories of it have strayed quite a bit from what I thought it was. In fact, this movie takes an amusing idea, a man in a woman's body, throws in some funny lines, but misses the point and goes no where. Tony Curtis plays a very funny straight man to Debbie Reynolds, and while she may have been attractive for the time, the outdated values and generation gap haven't exactly endeared this movie to a whole new generation. While still more enjoyable than it's recent re-make, "Switch" with Ellen Barkin and Jimmy Smits, the movie almost immediately drags after the opening sequences and sets up a premise that really goes nowhere. Pat Boone's role is seemingly tagged on as is Roger C. Carmel's, but Walter Matthau is nearly unrecognizable as a worldly skirt-chaser giving Reynolds something to run from. While I can't in good conscience give this a ten, the movie is worth while a look as a seven.
- aesgaard41
- Jan 15, 2001
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Another Guilty Pleasure from the 60's
GOODBYE CHARLIE was a slightly smarmy but very funny comedy from the 60's that I grew up with. This was the story of a womanizing cad named Charlie Sorel, who one night is partying on a yacht and romances a married woman. He is caught by her husband who shoots Charlie, who falls overboard into the ocean. Charlie's body is not immediately located but a memorial service is held, attended by his best friend George (Tony Curtis) and dozens of women Charlie romanced over the years. A couple of days later a woman (Debbie Reynolds) is found naked on the beach outside of Charlie's apartment, where George is sorting out Charlie's things. We soon learn that this woman is a female reincarnation of Charlie Sorel, apparently God's ironic way of punishing Charlie for the dreadful way he treated women all his life. Charlie initially freaks out at the idea of being a woman but soon shows he hasn't learned a thing and reverts to the old Charlie even though he is a woman now. I was just a kid when this film first hit theaters but I still thought it was pretty funny. Reynolds and Curtis are energetic in the lead roles and are well-supported by Walter Matthau as the guy who shot Charlie, Pat Boone as a schnook who found and falls in love with the reincarnated Charlie and Joanna Barnes and Ellen MacRae as two of the women in old Charlie's life. BTW, Ellen MacRae later changed her name to Ellen Burstyn. It's no cinematic masterpiece, but it will make you laugh. Remade many years later as SWITCH.
Good "sixties" comedy in my opinion...
I remember this movie as a child when there were really funny and good movies shown on TV Sunday mornings. This was one of the "sixties" movies that I enjoyed watching even as a kid...I could get the jokes and the cast was of people I recognized and liked. I didn't get a chance to see this one until the early "seventies" for the first time, but I could enjoy some of the stars I grew to love in other movies. I would give it a solid "8" out of "10". I am very hard on movies that are comedies and have really good comedic actors. See it for yourself. I would also recommend "SWITCH (1991)" with Ellen Barkin and Jimmy Smits.
Charlie was a jerk as a man...and just as big a jerk as a woman!
When the film begins, a notorious womanizer, Charlie, is caught with another man's wife and is shot to death. Soon there's a funeral and his friend, George (Tony Curtis) arrives to do the eulogy. However, almost no one shows up...because Charlie spent his life using people, not paying debts and bedding any woman who fell for his spiel. Good riddance seems to be the mood of the day.
Soon there's a knock on the door to Charlie's home and since George is the executor, he answers. A young man (Pat Boone) is there with a naked woman in a blanket. He isn't sure who she is but she gave this address but was otherwise delirious. When she later awakens, it becomes obvious that this IS Charlie--reincarnated as a woman (Debbie Reynolds). At first, it's pretty obvious that Charlie had nothing but contempt for women and hates his new body. However, soon an interesting change comes over him. Perhaps he can use and take advantage of people BETTER as a woman and Charlie begins using her wiles to get ahead in life. She shamelessly flirts and blackmails some of the rich married women Charlie used to sleep with in his male days. Why George hangs out with Charlie throughout much of the film is odd, as George doesn't seem like a total jerk. Charlie, on the other hand, is gosh-darn awful both as a man and as a woman.
So what you have is a racy 60s sex comedy...minus the sex. The idea is pretty cute, original and I generally enjoyed the movie. However, I did think the film went on a bit too long and the picture lost a bit of its momentum as a result. For the first half, I'd give this one a 7 or 8...for the final half, a 4 or 5.
By the way, Walter Matthau's accent was just awful and I assume he must have been really embarrassed by this performance.
Soon there's a knock on the door to Charlie's home and since George is the executor, he answers. A young man (Pat Boone) is there with a naked woman in a blanket. He isn't sure who she is but she gave this address but was otherwise delirious. When she later awakens, it becomes obvious that this IS Charlie--reincarnated as a woman (Debbie Reynolds). At first, it's pretty obvious that Charlie had nothing but contempt for women and hates his new body. However, soon an interesting change comes over him. Perhaps he can use and take advantage of people BETTER as a woman and Charlie begins using her wiles to get ahead in life. She shamelessly flirts and blackmails some of the rich married women Charlie used to sleep with in his male days. Why George hangs out with Charlie throughout much of the film is odd, as George doesn't seem like a total jerk. Charlie, on the other hand, is gosh-darn awful both as a man and as a woman.
So what you have is a racy 60s sex comedy...minus the sex. The idea is pretty cute, original and I generally enjoyed the movie. However, I did think the film went on a bit too long and the picture lost a bit of its momentum as a result. For the first half, I'd give this one a 7 or 8...for the final half, a 4 or 5.
By the way, Walter Matthau's accent was just awful and I assume he must have been really embarrassed by this performance.
- planktonrules
- Jan 30, 2016
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Bad Karma for Charlie Sorel
I'm still wondering why Lauren Bacall who played the title role of Goodbye Charlie on Broadway was not cast in the film. The story concerns a man who was both shot and drowned at sea, one Charlie Sorel who comes back as a woman and starts haunting the people she knew in her former life as a he. Bacall's voice in the lower registers as it were probably added a dimension to the performance on stage that could never be appreciated by the screen audience.
Charlie was a real cad in life and now coming back as a the beautiful Debbie Reynolds is truly some bad karma coming home to roost. The only one who knows the secret is best friend and fellow writer Tony Curtis who flew in from Biarritz to both be executor of an estate in debt and to preside over a sparsely attended memorial service.
In her recent memoir Debbie Reynolds who had worked with Tony Curtis in The Rat Race and had no problems said that Curtis had now taken the side of buddy Eddie Fisher in the breakup of the Fisher/Reynolds wedding. He quoted Eddie and said that she was obviously a lesbian as Fisher's manly charms she eventually found resistible. That set the tone for their relationship off screen.
On the other hand Curtis in his memoirs talked about director Vincente Minnelli whom he found super meticulous in his work. Sad to say that Goodbye Charlie though it has some good moments will never be ranked as one of the great films for Curtis, Reynolds, or Minnelli.
Charlie was a real cad in life and now coming back as a the beautiful Debbie Reynolds is truly some bad karma coming home to roost. The only one who knows the secret is best friend and fellow writer Tony Curtis who flew in from Biarritz to both be executor of an estate in debt and to preside over a sparsely attended memorial service.
In her recent memoir Debbie Reynolds who had worked with Tony Curtis in The Rat Race and had no problems said that Curtis had now taken the side of buddy Eddie Fisher in the breakup of the Fisher/Reynolds wedding. He quoted Eddie and said that she was obviously a lesbian as Fisher's manly charms she eventually found resistible. That set the tone for their relationship off screen.
On the other hand Curtis in his memoirs talked about director Vincente Minnelli whom he found super meticulous in his work. Sad to say that Goodbye Charlie though it has some good moments will never be ranked as one of the great films for Curtis, Reynolds, or Minnelli.
- bkoganbing
- Oct 9, 2013
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The title should have been "Witless"
- theowinthrop
- Sep 19, 2007
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One goodbye that won't leave you speechless
There was a lot of promise with 'Goodbye Charlie', this was not a case of it being a bad idea from the start. Namely that it was directed by the very capable Vincente Minnelli, who was very, very good when at his best. It is hard to resist actors of such likeability in Tony Curtis and Debbie Reynolds and Walter Matthau is also always well worth the while. The idea did intrigue somewhat.
Yet somehow, 'Goodbye Charlie' really didn't do an awful lot for me. Not a complete misfire of a film by all means, but considering the huge potential and how much talent there was involved it was disappointing by quite a big degree. It's not terrible and certainly not a must avoid, it's also not particularly good either and has its faults, for me 'Goodbye Charlie' was a mixed bag sort of film that's difficult to rate and review.
'Goodbye Charlie' looks good, there is an elegant glossy sheen to the cinematography and the settings and especially the costumes are beautiful to watch. The music is dynamic and easy on the ears. Minnelli directs stylishly.
Curtis has a tricky role that makes him less likeable than his usual persona, he brings charm and grit to it. Reynolds tries too hard at times but acts with enthusiasm and commitment. Pat Boone makes the most of his rather thankless role. The best performance, even with the questionable Hungarian accent, comes from Matthau having a whale of a time. There is some nice wit in the script, the best line from the whole film coming from Mattheau (concerning him being left speechless if he wasn't Hungarian) and Curtis and Reynolds's chemistry sparkles. Interesting seeing an early appearance from Ellen Burstyn and the opening is a delight.
However, the wit is very largely variable, sometimes it is there but at others (and too frequently so) it's not. There is a fair bit of smut here and it's not done in a snappy or sophisticated way and is not particularly funny. Instead it's not always in good taste, much of it actually vulgar, and likely to make one feel uncomfortable, it doesn't hold up particularly well.
The story does have issues with pacing, with some aimless dragging going on and the film doesn't really go very far as an overall whole. It does run out of steam and ideas too early and the initially good concept wears thin and gets silly and over-stretched, the story too thin for the overlong running time. The supporting cast generally are wasted, Boone deserved better, and some of the characters felt incidental completely to the story and like they were there for padding reasons. The ending does betray the running out of ideas, it felt very tacked on and anti-climactic almost like a cop-out.
Overall, good production values and cast but the script and story needed a lot of work. 5/10 Bethany Cox
Yet somehow, 'Goodbye Charlie' really didn't do an awful lot for me. Not a complete misfire of a film by all means, but considering the huge potential and how much talent there was involved it was disappointing by quite a big degree. It's not terrible and certainly not a must avoid, it's also not particularly good either and has its faults, for me 'Goodbye Charlie' was a mixed bag sort of film that's difficult to rate and review.
'Goodbye Charlie' looks good, there is an elegant glossy sheen to the cinematography and the settings and especially the costumes are beautiful to watch. The music is dynamic and easy on the ears. Minnelli directs stylishly.
Curtis has a tricky role that makes him less likeable than his usual persona, he brings charm and grit to it. Reynolds tries too hard at times but acts with enthusiasm and commitment. Pat Boone makes the most of his rather thankless role. The best performance, even with the questionable Hungarian accent, comes from Matthau having a whale of a time. There is some nice wit in the script, the best line from the whole film coming from Mattheau (concerning him being left speechless if he wasn't Hungarian) and Curtis and Reynolds's chemistry sparkles. Interesting seeing an early appearance from Ellen Burstyn and the opening is a delight.
However, the wit is very largely variable, sometimes it is there but at others (and too frequently so) it's not. There is a fair bit of smut here and it's not done in a snappy or sophisticated way and is not particularly funny. Instead it's not always in good taste, much of it actually vulgar, and likely to make one feel uncomfortable, it doesn't hold up particularly well.
The story does have issues with pacing, with some aimless dragging going on and the film doesn't really go very far as an overall whole. It does run out of steam and ideas too early and the initially good concept wears thin and gets silly and over-stretched, the story too thin for the overlong running time. The supporting cast generally are wasted, Boone deserved better, and some of the characters felt incidental completely to the story and like they were there for padding reasons. The ending does betray the running out of ideas, it felt very tacked on and anti-climactic almost like a cop-out.
Overall, good production values and cast but the script and story needed a lot of work. 5/10 Bethany Cox
- TheLittleSongbird
- Aug 27, 2018
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I didn't realize how honest this movie was when I was a kid...
What a great movie. A time before Tony Curtis let his odd side out and known to the public and the turning of Debbie's cute wonderful nature turning to a more hardened personality on screen. It could not have been made with them before or after that time. They were at the perfect time in their personal and professional lives to make this movie work. The one surprising thing was Walter's acting. I had not liked it as a kid and now think it was very good.
Then Martin Gabel. It is surprising how I didn't know some well known people. It is surprising to me to find work by Martin Gabel and Arlene Francis after all these years. I never knew I had seen them in other things other than What's My Line.
This movie was so very honest with how too many men and women are. It is a movie relevant for any time.
The interactions between Curtis and Reynolds were fantastic and are what drive the movie along every inch of the way. I am very happy I was able to find it again after all these years.
Then Martin Gabel. It is surprising how I didn't know some well known people. It is surprising to me to find work by Martin Gabel and Arlene Francis after all these years. I never knew I had seen them in other things other than What's My Line.
This movie was so very honest with how too many men and women are. It is a movie relevant for any time.
The interactions between Curtis and Reynolds were fantastic and are what drive the movie along every inch of the way. I am very happy I was able to find it again after all these years.
'60s salad of glamor, weirder, more thoughtful than usually supposed
- Cristi_Ciopron
- Aug 29, 2015
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He was a fink, a louse, a bum! But now he's an ingenue...
George Axelrod adapted the unsuccessful Broadway play by Harry Kurnitz about a womanizing Hollywood screenwriter named Charlie who is shot and killed on a yacht after being found in a compromising situation with a party girl. After Charlie's remains are buried at sea, a petite blonde shows up at his beachside pad claiming to be Charlie's reincarnation. Unfunny comedy is all concept and no payoff. Debbie Reynolds works extra-hard in the lead, sitting with her legs apart and talking tough, but the role itself hasn't been thought through (at least not with Debbie in the part). Tony Curtis (Debbie's co-star from 1960's "The Rat Race"), playing Charlie's best friend, stays incredulous for nearly two hours, though the light touch he brings nearly saves the picture from disgrace. Vincente Minnelli's direction (with stagy left-to-right action) may be his very worst. Blake Edwards stole the concept (there's that word again) for 1991's "Switch". *1/2 from ****
- moonspinner55
- Jul 18, 2017
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Gender-bending comedy by a bunch of top rank pros
Read the cast list. These people can act and they know how to do comedy. Read Maltin's review and send him a raspberry. If he liked the play better, he should be a theater critic and not review films. I hate stuff like that. This is a funny movie, I have never seen the stage play and never hope to do so, so the fact that Maltin liked some stage version thirty years ago better is totally irrelevant to my possible enjoyment of a film, or yours. This is a good movie, and if you like the stars you will probably enjoy it. I gave it a nine because I couldn't give it an 8.5.
Bad Karma?
**SPOILERS** 1960's screwball comedy involving a philandering heel who's luck runs out when he's caught with both his pants down and the wife of a big Hollywood producer ending up shot and deep sixth-ed at the very beginning of the movie.
Having a memorial service for the departed screenwriter Charlie Sorel, Harry Madden,instead of the almost 100 friends and associates that were expected to attend only four show up with a very uncomfortable George Wellingtion Tracy, Tony Curtis, Charlie's best and only friend being forced to give the sermon. Tracy being the executor of Charlie's estate finds out, among all the other exploits in Charlie's life, that he was stuck with a $75,000.00 bill on Charlies part to the IRS.
Tracy being visited that evening by this rich mama's boy Bruce Minton III, Pat Boone, who happened to notice this young nude woman, Debbie Reynolds, walking aimlessly on the beach. Bruce did what a gentleman would do by wrapping her in his overcoat and driving her, with the woman giving Bruce directions, to Charlie's place to spend the evening.
The next morning the woman wakes up screaming and in a cold sweat. Everything came back to her and with her amnesia now gone she remembers who she is! she's Charlie Sorel! a Man in a Woman's body. At first Tracy feels that that all this is just one of his, the late Charlie Sorel's, many girlfriends who's trying to freak him out for one reason or another, just take your pick, that had to do with his friend Charlie shabby and trashy treatment of her. It doesn't take long for Tracy to realize that Charlie is really Charlie with information that Charlie tells him about himself and the late Charlie Sorel that only Charlie, and Tracy, would know!
Charlie at first is repulsed at the fact that he's a woman who to Charlie, when he was a man, was nothing but a toy to play with and throw away when he got tired of it. Charlie later starts to like his/her new body and uses it to blackmail his former bedmates by telling them that he, or she's, the late Charlie Sorel's widow Charleen and knows all about his affair from a diary that he kept that she's, unless paid off, going to have published.
Tracy who's now up to his neck in his friends Charlie/Charleen new life sees the wall's closing in on him with the police and IRS wanting to know what were the circumstances of Charlie's demise. It turns out that Tracy, Charlies best friend and executor of his will, has gotten very friendly with Charlie's killer Hollywood producer Sir Leopold Sartori, Walter Matthau, who's been found innocent in Charlie's killing by reason of justifiable homicide. Tracy has also gotten very close with Sartori's busty young wife Rusty,Laura Devon, who Sir Leopold caught together in bed with Charlie just before he blasted him! Could it be that instead of justifiable homicide it was really premeditated murder on both Sir Leopold and Tracy's part?
Trying to get Charlie out of the country Tracy goes to Sir Leopold begging him to, with his extensive political connections, get Charlie a false passport which Sir Leopold agrees to do. Still the crafty old fox has other plans in mind. Sir Leopold plans to trick the desperate Tracy into leave Charlie alone in his, or the late Charlie Sorel's, house so he can make a play for him, or her, himself.
In a strange quark of fate, or reincarnation, Sir Leopold Charlie's obsessed killer has become Charleen's obsessed lover and the object of Charlie's uncountable lust, for Rusty, that caused Sir Leopold to do in Charlie in the first place. Rusty ends up being the person who does in Charleen for being the reason for her old man Sir Leopold fooling around with another woman! The woman who's the person that she was fooling around when Charleen was a man Charlie Sorel! How's That For a Mouthfull!
Somewhat hard to follow at times with Debbie Reynolds trying to be both Charlie and Charleen, in her voice and actions, but still worth watching. There's also Pat Boone's Bruce Minter III falling under the spell of Charleen/Charlie and with his mother away on business, and having the massive Minter Estate all for himself, lets it all hang out by letting his hair down and confessing his love for her. Bruce does that with what looks like the biggest diamond ring in existence! Only to later pass out from drinking too much wine and champaign thinking, in his babyish mind, that it's only lemonade.
Charlie does comes back again at the end of the movie "Goodbye Charlie" in a new body but can't communicate and it looks as if his good friend Tracy also is unable to recognize him. Since he, Charlie, has a speaking problem that gives those of us watching the film something to howl about.
Having a memorial service for the departed screenwriter Charlie Sorel, Harry Madden,instead of the almost 100 friends and associates that were expected to attend only four show up with a very uncomfortable George Wellingtion Tracy, Tony Curtis, Charlie's best and only friend being forced to give the sermon. Tracy being the executor of Charlie's estate finds out, among all the other exploits in Charlie's life, that he was stuck with a $75,000.00 bill on Charlies part to the IRS.
Tracy being visited that evening by this rich mama's boy Bruce Minton III, Pat Boone, who happened to notice this young nude woman, Debbie Reynolds, walking aimlessly on the beach. Bruce did what a gentleman would do by wrapping her in his overcoat and driving her, with the woman giving Bruce directions, to Charlie's place to spend the evening.
The next morning the woman wakes up screaming and in a cold sweat. Everything came back to her and with her amnesia now gone she remembers who she is! she's Charlie Sorel! a Man in a Woman's body. At first Tracy feels that that all this is just one of his, the late Charlie Sorel's, many girlfriends who's trying to freak him out for one reason or another, just take your pick, that had to do with his friend Charlie shabby and trashy treatment of her. It doesn't take long for Tracy to realize that Charlie is really Charlie with information that Charlie tells him about himself and the late Charlie Sorel that only Charlie, and Tracy, would know!
Charlie at first is repulsed at the fact that he's a woman who to Charlie, when he was a man, was nothing but a toy to play with and throw away when he got tired of it. Charlie later starts to like his/her new body and uses it to blackmail his former bedmates by telling them that he, or she's, the late Charlie Sorel's widow Charleen and knows all about his affair from a diary that he kept that she's, unless paid off, going to have published.
Tracy who's now up to his neck in his friends Charlie/Charleen new life sees the wall's closing in on him with the police and IRS wanting to know what were the circumstances of Charlie's demise. It turns out that Tracy, Charlies best friend and executor of his will, has gotten very friendly with Charlie's killer Hollywood producer Sir Leopold Sartori, Walter Matthau, who's been found innocent in Charlie's killing by reason of justifiable homicide. Tracy has also gotten very close with Sartori's busty young wife Rusty,Laura Devon, who Sir Leopold caught together in bed with Charlie just before he blasted him! Could it be that instead of justifiable homicide it was really premeditated murder on both Sir Leopold and Tracy's part?
Trying to get Charlie out of the country Tracy goes to Sir Leopold begging him to, with his extensive political connections, get Charlie a false passport which Sir Leopold agrees to do. Still the crafty old fox has other plans in mind. Sir Leopold plans to trick the desperate Tracy into leave Charlie alone in his, or the late Charlie Sorel's, house so he can make a play for him, or her, himself.
In a strange quark of fate, or reincarnation, Sir Leopold Charlie's obsessed killer has become Charleen's obsessed lover and the object of Charlie's uncountable lust, for Rusty, that caused Sir Leopold to do in Charlie in the first place. Rusty ends up being the person who does in Charleen for being the reason for her old man Sir Leopold fooling around with another woman! The woman who's the person that she was fooling around when Charleen was a man Charlie Sorel! How's That For a Mouthfull!
Somewhat hard to follow at times with Debbie Reynolds trying to be both Charlie and Charleen, in her voice and actions, but still worth watching. There's also Pat Boone's Bruce Minter III falling under the spell of Charleen/Charlie and with his mother away on business, and having the massive Minter Estate all for himself, lets it all hang out by letting his hair down and confessing his love for her. Bruce does that with what looks like the biggest diamond ring in existence! Only to later pass out from drinking too much wine and champaign thinking, in his babyish mind, that it's only lemonade.
Charlie does comes back again at the end of the movie "Goodbye Charlie" in a new body but can't communicate and it looks as if his good friend Tracy also is unable to recognize him. Since he, Charlie, has a speaking problem that gives those of us watching the film something to howl about.
funnier to act like a man
Womanizing Charlie Sorel gets caught by a jealous husband Sir Leopold Sartori (Walter Matthau) and shot jumping off the yacht. His best friend George Tracy (Tony Curtis) goes to speak at his memorial service. Not many people actually shows up. George is alone after the event when Bruce Minton III (Pat Boone) brings a disheveled young woman suffering amnesia (Debbie Reynolds). After waking up, she remembers that she is the reincarnation of Charlie Sorel who died broke. She starts anew as Charlie's widow.
This needs a bit more time introducing the Charlie character when he's a man. This premise needs the character to do split duty. Quite frankly, I would love Tony Curtis to play the same character as Debbie Reynolds. The comedy comes in when she is shocked by the treatment that he himself would do as a man. This depends on Debbie Reynolds playing the dude. The comedy is less funny when she's acting like a girl. The deeper meaning behind what she's doing must have come with some issues. I wonder if she really butch it up and make the character a lesbian, that might be too controversial for its time.
This needs a bit more time introducing the Charlie character when he's a man. This premise needs the character to do split duty. Quite frankly, I would love Tony Curtis to play the same character as Debbie Reynolds. The comedy comes in when she is shocked by the treatment that he himself would do as a man. This depends on Debbie Reynolds playing the dude. The comedy is less funny when she's acting like a girl. The deeper meaning behind what she's doing must have come with some issues. I wonder if she really butch it up and make the character a lesbian, that might be too controversial for its time.
- SnoopyStyle
- Mar 28, 2024
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Some will smile, Some will Laugh this movie is for Everyone!!
Not every movie made has to have a message. Some are made just to entertain us. John Wayne proved that and "Goodbye Charlie" has taken it to a new height.
Debbie Reynolds and Tony Curtis really had that special chemistry that's always needed in a good comedy and there timing was perfect. Now consider this movie was made around the time when the first civil rights act was passed and it was still believed that "it's a man's world." Debbie Reynolds plays the part of Charlie who was the classic womanizer. He is shot and comes back as a woman (Debbie). He still thinks he's Charlie -- Big Problem especially in 1964.
I rate this movie 5 stars considering the time it was made, the skill of the players and a theme song I just fell in love with. If you need to have a fun afternoon get "Goodbye Charlie"!
Debbie Reynolds and Tony Curtis really had that special chemistry that's always needed in a good comedy and there timing was perfect. Now consider this movie was made around the time when the first civil rights act was passed and it was still believed that "it's a man's world." Debbie Reynolds plays the part of Charlie who was the classic womanizer. He is shot and comes back as a woman (Debbie). He still thinks he's Charlie -- Big Problem especially in 1964.
I rate this movie 5 stars considering the time it was made, the skill of the players and a theme song I just fell in love with. If you need to have a fun afternoon get "Goodbye Charlie"!
- steve_kaden
- Jan 17, 2001
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fantasy comedy movie
- myriamlenys
- Mar 1, 2019
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Fifties Flop Becomes Box Office Bomb . . . but it's not all bad. How bad depends on what you like.
Man falls into water and comes out a girl. But this is decades before Ranma 1/2. George Axelrod got $150,000 for the motion picture rights to his play before it ever hit the stage. And it's a good thing too. It opened in late 1959 and closed in early 1960. Even having Lauren Bacall in the title roll couldn't keep it from closing after little more than 100 performances. But, thanks to those film rights being purchase in advance, it will be back. Originally they wanted Marilyn Monroe, but she felt the part wasn't feminine. That's kind of the point, isn't it? Shirley MaClaine was considered, but it was Debbie Reynolds who would play Charlie.
And so a few years later it gets made with more Hollywood Stars and an Academy Award winning director, but they couldn't make a profitable movie out of it. It's not terrible, but it's not exactly the greatest either. There were loads of Sixties Screwball Comedies that were just as mediocre as it is. Tony Curtis made a lot of these, some better, like Love And The Single Girl (6.4). Some were worse like Wild And Wonderful. Paris, When It Sizzles (6.3) rounds out the year 1964 for Tony. Four of these in one year! Personally, I like these so, even though Goodbye Charlie is a (6.1), I give it a solid 7. But it kind of goes over the top to make it's point, that Charlie treated women badly, if only in self defense, of course, and is turned into a woman for it to see how the other half lives and, of course, he's not better any than other women, worse than some, and is treated just as badly as he/she treated them.
His/Her best friend, George, tries to find ways to help him/her, but Charlie reverts to type and blackmails the wives he/she was having affairs with. Besides George and Charlie's agent, they were the only ones that showed up for Charlie's funeral. She burns the check to show George some remorse but George has had it, and packs to go home. Without someone to talk to honestly about the situation Charlie freaks out and the ol' hormones kick in, in spite of Charlie hating girls who cry. George tries to comfort her and she lets him, until George snaps out of it and recalls that it's his buddy in there and then he freaks out himself. He won't leave her, but moves into a hotel down the road so nothing like that will happen again.
That's as far as it goes for Charlie (Debbie) and George (Tony), but then there's Walter Matthau and Pat Boone . Pat Boone plays the Millionaire Momma's Boy, Bruce Minton III, who found the transformed Charlie wandering on the roadside and offered his coat and car. He gave her/him a ride to Charlie's old beach house where George had taken up temporary residence after the funeral to go over Charlies accounts as executor of the estate, and as the old saying goes, hilarity ensued.
Bruce, who has fallen head over heels in love with the newly minted woman, returns to check on her/him. In nearly no time at all he has decided that he want's to make Charlie, Mrs. Bruce Minton III. Is Charlie desperate enough for money to become a wife? Matthau plays Sir Leopold, the Hungarian producer who shot Charlie on his yacht for seducing his wife, Rusty and starting the whole thing. And, like Charlie, Sir Leopold is an inveterate womanizer, who attempts to seduce Charlie, who he believes is the widow of the man he killed. Matthau's over the top performance, and accent, give the movie some of the best laughs. Sir Leopold is so bad you have to wonder what Karma has in store for him.
Now you would think with the young Romeo and the old Lothario chasing after Charlie that Charlie would at least get more than her hand kissed, even in the 1960s. But it manages to steer clear of those waters so that Charlie can continue to get his/her Karmic Comeuppance. Even the detective on the case of Charlie's murder by Inspector Frank McGill played by Rodger C. Carmel goes nowhere as well. One has to wonder why his character was even introduced into the story.
In spite of all the fluff it was considered a vulgar one joke play in the 50s and didn't fair much better as a film in the 60s. When Blake Edwards remade it in the 90s as Switch it did slightly better, turning a profit, but only just, grossing just 15 million with a budget of 14 million. The original made about 4.5 million, but needed to clear 7 million to be profitable. Perhaps someday someone will make something more of it than just a mildly amusing comedy about role reversals. There seem to be lots of those many of which did better with less. Some give this one a 10, others a 1. It is neither. It's somewhere in the middle. What number will you give it? That will depend on if you like Gender Benders or Screwball Sixties Comedies.
And so a few years later it gets made with more Hollywood Stars and an Academy Award winning director, but they couldn't make a profitable movie out of it. It's not terrible, but it's not exactly the greatest either. There were loads of Sixties Screwball Comedies that were just as mediocre as it is. Tony Curtis made a lot of these, some better, like Love And The Single Girl (6.4). Some were worse like Wild And Wonderful. Paris, When It Sizzles (6.3) rounds out the year 1964 for Tony. Four of these in one year! Personally, I like these so, even though Goodbye Charlie is a (6.1), I give it a solid 7. But it kind of goes over the top to make it's point, that Charlie treated women badly, if only in self defense, of course, and is turned into a woman for it to see how the other half lives and, of course, he's not better any than other women, worse than some, and is treated just as badly as he/she treated them.
His/Her best friend, George, tries to find ways to help him/her, but Charlie reverts to type and blackmails the wives he/she was having affairs with. Besides George and Charlie's agent, they were the only ones that showed up for Charlie's funeral. She burns the check to show George some remorse but George has had it, and packs to go home. Without someone to talk to honestly about the situation Charlie freaks out and the ol' hormones kick in, in spite of Charlie hating girls who cry. George tries to comfort her and she lets him, until George snaps out of it and recalls that it's his buddy in there and then he freaks out himself. He won't leave her, but moves into a hotel down the road so nothing like that will happen again.
That's as far as it goes for Charlie (Debbie) and George (Tony), but then there's Walter Matthau and Pat Boone . Pat Boone plays the Millionaire Momma's Boy, Bruce Minton III, who found the transformed Charlie wandering on the roadside and offered his coat and car. He gave her/him a ride to Charlie's old beach house where George had taken up temporary residence after the funeral to go over Charlies accounts as executor of the estate, and as the old saying goes, hilarity ensued.
Bruce, who has fallen head over heels in love with the newly minted woman, returns to check on her/him. In nearly no time at all he has decided that he want's to make Charlie, Mrs. Bruce Minton III. Is Charlie desperate enough for money to become a wife? Matthau plays Sir Leopold, the Hungarian producer who shot Charlie on his yacht for seducing his wife, Rusty and starting the whole thing. And, like Charlie, Sir Leopold is an inveterate womanizer, who attempts to seduce Charlie, who he believes is the widow of the man he killed. Matthau's over the top performance, and accent, give the movie some of the best laughs. Sir Leopold is so bad you have to wonder what Karma has in store for him.
Now you would think with the young Romeo and the old Lothario chasing after Charlie that Charlie would at least get more than her hand kissed, even in the 1960s. But it manages to steer clear of those waters so that Charlie can continue to get his/her Karmic Comeuppance. Even the detective on the case of Charlie's murder by Inspector Frank McGill played by Rodger C. Carmel goes nowhere as well. One has to wonder why his character was even introduced into the story.
In spite of all the fluff it was considered a vulgar one joke play in the 50s and didn't fair much better as a film in the 60s. When Blake Edwards remade it in the 90s as Switch it did slightly better, turning a profit, but only just, grossing just 15 million with a budget of 14 million. The original made about 4.5 million, but needed to clear 7 million to be profitable. Perhaps someday someone will make something more of it than just a mildly amusing comedy about role reversals. There seem to be lots of those many of which did better with less. Some give this one a 10, others a 1. It is neither. It's somewhere in the middle. What number will you give it? That will depend on if you like Gender Benders or Screwball Sixties Comedies.
Lots of Big names For a Fish Tale
A good cast can't save it - the film and play both flopped
"Goodbye Charlie" is supposed to be a comedy, but it's hard to sit through waiting for anything funny. There are a couple of lines, one early and one later. The only thing this film has to offer is a good effort by Debbie Reynolds at playing a sort of grown-up tomboy character - a takeoff from her earliest films. And then, Walter Matthau with his East European accent as a parody of immigrant film producers for which Hollywood was known in the first half of the 20th century. Modern audiences probably wouldn't catch on to that. But, Tony Curtis just has a long workout for about two-thirds of the film. He's constantly on the run.
The premise of the plot had possibilities for comedy, and has been used successfully in a couple of films. But not in this one. It's just not a funny movie. About two-thirds of the way one might think it has possibilities because of the far-out ending it seems to be leading up to. But the writers and Fox apparently couldn't see the possibility for a very funny, wacko ending. Instead, it ends with a standard Hollywood dose of syrup with a "surprise." Yet it just proves that the movie has gone to the dogs, along with Charlie.
This film was a box office flop, just as the Broadway Play of the same title closed with barely 100 (109) performances.
Here are the two lines that might easily be missed if one dozes off during the film.
Charlie, "Behind 'War and Peace.' Where else would you hide vodka in a bookcase?"
Sartori, "If I were not Hungarian by birth, I would be speechless."
The premise of the plot had possibilities for comedy, and has been used successfully in a couple of films. But not in this one. It's just not a funny movie. About two-thirds of the way one might think it has possibilities because of the far-out ending it seems to be leading up to. But the writers and Fox apparently couldn't see the possibility for a very funny, wacko ending. Instead, it ends with a standard Hollywood dose of syrup with a "surprise." Yet it just proves that the movie has gone to the dogs, along with Charlie.
This film was a box office flop, just as the Broadway Play of the same title closed with barely 100 (109) performances.
Here are the two lines that might easily be missed if one dozes off during the film.
Charlie, "Behind 'War and Peace.' Where else would you hide vodka in a bookcase?"
Sartori, "If I were not Hungarian by birth, I would be speechless."
I figured out why the irrational hatred of this clever comedy
Oh, if only we could watch every film with no advance knowledge so we'd be surprised when we're supposed to be. Well, if you've gotten this far, you must know that womanizing cad Charlie's karma is to be reincarnated as an attractive young woman. If you watch it with someone else, do them a favor and don't tip them off.
There's a clever plot chronicling the changes in Charlie's behavior as his new persona settles in, with amusing situations and dialog. Debbie Reynolds' performance as the "new" Charlie, particularly the early scenes where "she" is mentally still 100% Charlie, is outstanding.
So why the several hate-filled reviews? This film was decades before the great "trans" controversy rampant today and was made just for laughs with a little social commentary. My theory is that those strongly on today's anti-trans side are taking it as trans propaganda and ignoring its content.
Bottom line, a funny but thought-provoking comedy with good performances all around, though Walter Matthau's idea of a Hungarian accent is a bit grating.
There's a clever plot chronicling the changes in Charlie's behavior as his new persona settles in, with amusing situations and dialog. Debbie Reynolds' performance as the "new" Charlie, particularly the early scenes where "she" is mentally still 100% Charlie, is outstanding.
So why the several hate-filled reviews? This film was decades before the great "trans" controversy rampant today and was made just for laughs with a little social commentary. My theory is that those strongly on today's anti-trans side are taking it as trans propaganda and ignoring its content.
Bottom line, a funny but thought-provoking comedy with good performances all around, though Walter Matthau's idea of a Hungarian accent is a bit grating.
- meaninglessname
- Jul 29, 2023
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You can lead great performers to a camera, but you can't make them act...
What does it take to be a bad movie? 1. When your lead actor (Tony Curtis) gives the most wooden, lifeless performance of his career; 2. When your lead actress (Debby Reynolds), playing a reincarnated lady-killer, just about fondles herself on screen (in a rather disturbing scene) when discovering the change, and never really conveys the fact that she is a man's ghost in a woman's body; 3. When you cast a Playmate of the Year (Donna Michelle, 1964), list her among the principal actors, then briefly show her dancing at a party in the opening sequence, never to be seen again. 4. When your best performances come from Roger Carmel, of all people, as a homicide detective who suddenly arrives to throw the plot into a needless twist; 5. When you waste Pat Boone's talents (unfathomable as it seems) by having him play a rich boy wooing she-male Debby.
This, no doubt, is one of the most disappointing movies I have ever seen. The writing is abysmal (one particular scene with Debby and Tony drags on for 15-20 minutes, and you wish for death to take you); director Minelli makes no attempt to elevate it above a filmed stage play; and the Cinemascope is so cluttered, one is often more interested by the props than the performances.
One gem amidst the dross--Walter Matthau as a fraud Hungarian director. One hopes for Carmel's character to grill Matthau, but it never comes to be. Truly, one film to avoid at all costs.
This, no doubt, is one of the most disappointing movies I have ever seen. The writing is abysmal (one particular scene with Debby and Tony drags on for 15-20 minutes, and you wish for death to take you); director Minelli makes no attempt to elevate it above a filmed stage play; and the Cinemascope is so cluttered, one is often more interested by the props than the performances.
One gem amidst the dross--Walter Matthau as a fraud Hungarian director. One hopes for Carmel's character to grill Matthau, but it never comes to be. Truly, one film to avoid at all costs.
Look at the Cast List
Tony Curtis as George Tracy
Debbie Reynolds as Charlie Sorel/The Woman
Pat Boone as Bruce
Joanna Barnes as Janie
Ellen Burstyn as Franny
Laura Devon as Rusty
Martin Gabel as Norton Craft
Roger C. Carmel as Inspector
Harry Madden as Charles Sorel
Myrna Hansen as Starlet
Michael Romanoff as Patron
Michael Jackson as Himself
Anthony Eustrel as Butler
Donna Michelle as Guest on Yacht
Walter Matthau as Leo Sartori
Sydney Guilaroff as A patron at Beauty Salon
Rudy Hansen as German in Bistro
Jack Richardson as Party Guest
Ed Wermer as German in Bistro
James Brolin as Party Guest
Jerry Dunphy as T. V. Newscaster
With a list like, this tells me that this movie can be anything less than great. Those of you that always wanted Karma to include a little revenge; this film is for you.
Charlie, not the nicest guy (depends on who you ask), is dispatched with a ballistic projectile in his posterior by a jealous husband. He falls into the sea never to be found. Then "The Woman" (Debbie Reynolds) turns up with amnesia. Yep, it is Charlie, in a woman suit. He realizes that he has been given a second chance to mess over other people's lives. Will he ever learn? How about a third time? Or more?
With a list like, this tells me that this movie can be anything less than great. Those of you that always wanted Karma to include a little revenge; this film is for you.
Charlie, not the nicest guy (depends on who you ask), is dispatched with a ballistic projectile in his posterior by a jealous husband. He falls into the sea never to be found. Then "The Woman" (Debbie Reynolds) turns up with amnesia. Yep, it is Charlie, in a woman suit. He realizes that he has been given a second chance to mess over other people's lives. Will he ever learn? How about a third time? Or more?
- Bernie4444
- Nov 28, 2023
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"Deadly" is dead right!
- JohnHowardReid
- Jul 12, 2017
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A GREAT SLEEPER
This is one of those movies that is fun to watch, the premise is of course impossible, but enjoyable none the less. If you liked THE LAST TIME I SAW ARCHIE or MERRILY WE LIVE you will be very pleased that you took the time to check out this gem. Tony Curtis and Debby Reynolds well, they live up to their comedic potential in this one.
- richardnbev
- Aug 1, 2002
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The 1960s Were Not Like This
Future generations are going to think the 1960s were like this ... and they most certainly were not. Pat Boone was laughed at in the 60s and was not a staple of the top 40 - his years were the 50s. Same for Debbie Reynolds and Tony Curtis.
The people dancing the "twist" on the boat? Come on...these people are all in their 40s. 50s. and 60s. This had no relevance to the younger people who were to dominate the 60s with their songs, sounds, and messages.
This is how older people saw younger people. It is the very definition of the generation gap. The casting director hires actors he/she thinks will appeal to younger people and we have what the oldsters thought were popular stars in 1965 ... Pat Boone? C'mon? Really? Where are the Supremes? Lesley Gore? Smokey Robinson? Roy Orbison? Bobby Vee? The other hitmakers of 1965? Where are they?
The "music" in this film is a joke. So is the generic, bland, what-older-people-thought-rock-music-sounded-like music from the soundtrack. Most all 60s movies, with the exception of the all-teenage musical TAMI show, shared this problem/distinction. Old people deciphering what young music was. Naturally, they always failed.
This movie didn't take place in America in the 1960s. It took place in some older director's head during the 1960's concerning his conception of how he thought American society was behaving. Totally dishonest when it came to all backgrounds. On the other hand, Debbie Reynolds nailed her part and there was some good acting.
The people dancing the "twist" on the boat? Come on...these people are all in their 40s. 50s. and 60s. This had no relevance to the younger people who were to dominate the 60s with their songs, sounds, and messages.
This is how older people saw younger people. It is the very definition of the generation gap. The casting director hires actors he/she thinks will appeal to younger people and we have what the oldsters thought were popular stars in 1965 ... Pat Boone? C'mon? Really? Where are the Supremes? Lesley Gore? Smokey Robinson? Roy Orbison? Bobby Vee? The other hitmakers of 1965? Where are they?
The "music" in this film is a joke. So is the generic, bland, what-older-people-thought-rock-music-sounded-like music from the soundtrack. Most all 60s movies, with the exception of the all-teenage musical TAMI show, shared this problem/distinction. Old people deciphering what young music was. Naturally, they always failed.
This movie didn't take place in America in the 1960s. It took place in some older director's head during the 1960's concerning his conception of how he thought American society was behaving. Totally dishonest when it came to all backgrounds. On the other hand, Debbie Reynolds nailed her part and there was some good acting.